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Is evolution itself an exponential function; where we are measuring consciousness change?

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  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 09:26am

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    Is evolution itself an exponential function; where we are measuring consciousness change?

Chris, 

 The changes that you forecast may just be part of a bigger exponential function – one of evolution itself. This is where evolution is just an exponential function of consciousness change.

The Carl Calleman/Ian Lungold model says exactly this

Watch these 2 videos from Ian Lungold

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232

 

Read.

"The Transformation of Consciousness" by Dr Carl Calleman.

I have been "joining up the dots" for the last 2 years. I started in economics (Fred Harrisson, Kondratieff, Robert Prechter, Martin Armstrong, Elliott waves) and rapidly moved into other areas of philosophy, quantum mechanics, gold, ancient civilisations etc

Oswald Spengler wrote the "Deline of the West" when gold hit a 600 year real low in 1918. Now gold is signalling a new era.

  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 05:20pm

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    Evolution theory is a debunked Myth

Evolution has never been proven, and is still wanting for a single example of a life form developing into a more complex organiism with new genetics.

The dark side of Evolution is ethnic cleansing and elimination of races considered inferior in Nazi fashion. 

  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 06:35pm

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    Re: Evolution theory is a debunked Myth

i would suggest you read the dominant animal by paul and ann erhlich.

theories are just that, theories. theory–"a formulation of aparent relationships or underlying principles of certain observable phenomena which has been verified to some degree" . they become laws when they are proven .

relativity is  a theory  quantum physics is a theory. gravity is a law

  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 06:40pm

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    Re: Evolution theory is a debunked Myth

Theories are never "proven", they can only be disproven.  We have no better explaination that I am aware of for how complexity forms in natural systems. Indeed, how do you explain the process by which viruses and bacteria become immune to antibiotics?  How do you explain that we share over 99% of our DNA with the great apes, and well over 90% with most (if not all) mammals?  We have no direct observation of new species forming because of the time scale involved – in geologic time humans have only been here for the blink of an eye.

I can not disagree that evolution may have been used as a reason behind efforts at ethnic cleansing and other evil acts, however I do not see how it can be said that evolution is evil for this reason.

All the best.

  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 06:43pm

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    Re: Evolution theory is a debunked Myth

Correction, perhaps, based on joe2baba’s post below.  Hypotheses are never proven.  Theories are as he describes.

  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 07:24pm

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    Re: Evolution theory is a debunked Myth

I agree. It’s nice to meet a fellow man of intelligence.  I know that my Lord is standing on high, and He periodically becomes bored with the world as it is, and waves His hand and Miraculously causes new animals to appear—presto—upon the surface of the Earth and others to disappear.

Some would say that if God were perfect, he would design a world which once set in motion would be capable of proceeding without interference, according to perfect natural laws, rather than a world which must be continuously tinkered with to keep it running, like the product of a bad clock-maker.  But that’s claptrap.

By the way, the fossils were placed into the earth by Divine Providence merely to test the strength of our faith.  Do not be tempted by Godless theories to speculate on how they may have gotten there, or why they would appear to show a steady progression of form, becoming more and more similar to modern animals as one proceeds to the upper rock layers.  It’s a temptation of Lucifer!

  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 08:07pm

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    Re: Evolution theory is a debunked Myth

So being curious about the world around you and how it came to be is caused by the devil?  How about wondering why there are 4 different versions of what Mary Magdalene saw when she went to the tomb?  (Mat 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, John 20)

All the best

  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 08:52pm

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    Re: Is evolution itself an exponential function

Evolution is a straight forward theory, and "theory" is used in the scientific sense as opposed to the pop culture use. The simplest definition is descent with modification – offspring have minor genetic differences from their parents. This has been observed repeatedly. Over time these changes build up leading to new species and variations of life. Deny that this is happening at your own risk – if you get infected with MRSA be glad science has "evolved" right along with staph infections.

 Also, part of the descent with modification is that there are excess offspring created, and the less fit offspring die, and do not reproduce. When excess offspring are allow to live and thrive, or there are no natural pressures against the offspring, populations do grow exponentially. Since humans have next to no natural predators that we can’t easily defend ourselves against, and modern medicine keeps many people alive who previously wouldn’t have made it, we get the exponential population growth we have today.

  • Tue, Oct 14, 2008 - 09:08pm

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    evolution or myth

I can’t believe that this topic even arises in the context of this blog.  On a science blog the ID’ers and creationists would promptly be shamed into leaving. 

boilereric is right in distinguishing between the popular and scientific uses of the word "theory."  There are many phenomena that are explained by theory but are fact.  My favorite, because I have some education in the subject, is electricity.  40 years ago when I was learning electrical theory there were 3 theories that could explain electricity, but the lights went on when I flipped a switch.  Nuclear fission is explained by theory, but fissions are happening all the time and we have learned how to control them.

Isn’t it time, on a blog like this that deals with real concerns that we should all be paying attention to, that we dispense with nonsense myths out of hand and get on with learning real survival strategies and skills?

  • Wed, Oct 15, 2008 - 12:18am

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    Re: consciousness change?

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consciousness change.

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I am glad to see someone at least mention the word consciousness on here.

Rising world consciousness is, IMO, the most important factor to consider in the context of the economic changes we are witnessing. Unfortunately, based on the replies I’ve read so far, this might not be the right place to have such a discussion.

Anyone want to start a thread about how rising consciousness plays into what we are seeing? Or should we go elsewere?

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