is China behind the plandemic?

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  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 01:01pm

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    Gregory

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    is China behind the plandemic?

anyone else think that China might be the puppet master in this plandemic?

all of the people involved with engineering the virus were friends with China. China’s United Front’s programs were very successful at getting scientists the world over to help China out, programs that included money, young girls, special speaker appointments, and huge respect in general.

Canada, Australia and New Zealand all appear to have been captured by China. they’re all using the pandemic ‘measures’ that China used in the outset. Canada has arranged military exercises with China to train the Chinese military. Australia’s Andrews, the governor of Victoria, signed a Belt and Road agreement with China without the rest of Australia knowing. New Zealand has a Chinese minister who refuses to speak English in public and refuses to answer reporter questions. New Zealand’s Prime Minister also seems very strange as she makes her covid announcements. She smiles too well indicating that she’s either naive about the danger of the vaccines, or she’s a sociopath who doesn’t care about the lives of the people she governs.

Biden and his administration have more than a few people working for China, possibly including Milley.

China is currently very busy collecting money from as many places as possible. are they preparing for 10 years of hardship? or preparing to go to war?

in China and Hong Kong, the vaccines don’t appear to be deadly. in Hong Kong, they’ve had a handful of deaths although it’s not clear if they changed the reporting guidelines, especially after they forcibly closed down Apple Daily. all of the other publications only publish content that the government agrees with. in Hong Kong, they wear masks but lockdowns don’t happen except for the occasional lightning lockdown which will last 2 or 3 days while they test every resident in the area, and they don’t use PCR Ct values of 40 or above. i.e., while they’re promoting the vaccines, they’re not forcing them yet. and the Sinovac is a traditional vaccine, which is *much* different to the RNA/DNA vaccines killing and maiming people around the world.

and don’t forget. the virus was constructed in China. there’s no way that happened without China’s military knowing every single detail.

so, is China a major partner in this? how would the Rothschild and Rockefeller’s come into this?

  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 01:30pm

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    is China behind the plandemic?

The Western nations funded the development of something at least similar to SARS-coV-2 – they let it in & didn’t bother to contain it, until it went endemic & jabs were rolled out…

To me, it looks like the 1% have declared war on the 99% & the Chinese connection is just a sideshow. It is however possible that both sides thought they were playing the other…

  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 02:55pm

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    is China behind the plandemic?

China is perhaps that scapegoat, however, Fauci and Friends seemed to know all about it, so I doubt that total blame can be laid at their hands.

 

  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 03:19pm

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    is China behind the plandemic?

if China was behind it, they wouldn’t release it in China…

Whatever else they are, Chinese are extremely pragmatic.

US, however, has a history of ‘outsourcing’ dirty production as well as toxic waste. So it totally makes sense to send the tricky virus work somewhere far away. Oh, and it is convenient to have a scapegoat too…

  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 03:38pm

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there must have been cooperation somewhere. the Chinese military *absolutely* knew about the virus work.

but the Chinese are very used to ‘cooperating’ with non-Chinese and their projects, and then copying/stealing the results, so maybe they planned to do the same thing here except that the virus accidentally leaked before it was finished. there are stories of the lab people getting bitten by test animals.

the WEF appears to be the other favourite.

  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 03:44pm

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    is China behind the plandemic?

I agree that they very likely new all about the work in that lab. They probably had some plans for it too, hoping to benefit from it in some way.

I just don’t see China being the originator of the plan.

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All the people involved were manipulating the Chinese. China has a mixed economic system. It gives considerable leeway to the private capitalist sector. Maybe too much. When Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance came there from his gain-of-function lab in North Carolina, they didn’t consign secret-police agents to shadow him around.

I follow a Canadian ex-pat in China who owns a craft-beer brewery and pub, and is on the verge of branching out into a chain of them. Daniel bends over backwards to be fair to both sides of the question. He wouldn’t take offense if you put the question to him, even though his wife is Chinese and he’s raising his boys to be proud that they’re Chinese.

As for myself, I’m a follower of the International Left Opposition (Trotskyist, Fourth International) and have differences with the Stalinism that’s still hanging over in some of the ranks of the Communist Party of China (CPC). I get stonewalled when I bring up the fact that one of the two founders of the CPC and a leading member of the Central Committee, Chen Duxiu, was a Trotskyist, that Deng Xiaoping may have been friends with Chen Duxiu or his circle. The USSR experimented with a mixed economy, but Stalin made a mess of it after his clique expelled Trotsky from the Party and Russia.

I’ve worked with a lot of conservatives on 9/11 Truth and other issues, and the charge of “conspiracy theorist” as an epithet holds no weight with me. The U.S. Declaration of Independence was based on a conspiracy theory, which it refers to as a ‘Design’. I’ll tell you that it makes no sense for the CPC, who in 10 years beginning in 2011 brought 80 million Chinese out of extreme poverty, to deliberately make Wuhan in Hubei Province (Central China) “ground zero” for launching a bioweapon. Think about it.

The Chinese vaccines are manufactured by some private companies in which the state holds the majority share of stock and by some state-owned companies. The Sinopharm, Sinovac, and CanSino are attenuated-virus vaccines, not one a genetically modified mRNA vaccine; and there was an attempt to use a healthy biological adjuvant instead of the metal and chimera adjuvants that are used in the Western vaccines. Fauci and several others of those involved in the Western vaccines have ties to the CIA and even fascist groups. China has now all but eradicated CoV-2 and has only small outbreaks of the Delta strain, which are being hunted down with contact-tracing.

Another ex-pat I follow has recently moved back to China from Thailand. To enter China he was required to take one of the Chinese vaccines and had to quarantine for 21 days (his wife and little girl are still in Thailand and will come later). Matt is an American and a practicing Catholic in China. He was requird to isolate in a (very nice) hotel and is doing a video series about his experience. You could ask Matt or dozens of other ex-pats who have internet sites over which they expose the ridiculous lies that are told in the Western media about China, where people live freer and more safely than in most countries of the West. For most in China, masks are voluntary and there’s hardly any social distancing, even at social gatherings indoors. Here’s Daniel telling his attempt to eliminate personal bias (opens in a new tab)

Someone else I’ve followed for so long I feel I know him is the West Coast radio host and anti-fascist researcher Dave Emory. Dave is doing a series on air which he calls “The Oswald Institute of Virology” because he has the evidence that the virus was leaked in China by Western fascist elements, including the White Supremacists of Aryan Nations, in order to make the Wuhan lab the patsy in the same way as Lee Harvey Oswald was painted as a Russian agent and used as the patsy in the JFK assassination. Don’t dismiss it until you’ve given Dave a chance to tell what he’s learned about the book by the White Supremacist and Nazi William Luther Pierce Serpent’s Walk under the pseudonym Randolf D Calverhall. Dave has been studying the “fiction” novel and believes it’s a blueprint for an epidemic first against China to devastate that country and then one against the United States so as to cause enough chaos to open it up to a fascist takeover. Here in a new tab:

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  • Thu, Sep 23, 2021 - 02:02pm

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    WOW, a defender of communism (Chinese a Sovient oh but only Trotskyism)

@YZ_from_Katy_TX
Whatever else they are, Chinese are extremely pragmatic.

What makes you think that?? Can you name one way in which they are pragmatic? I think it’s the opposite: they are the most egoic criminal organization I’ve ever seen. Their unbending ego will bring them down.

@Atlanta Bill
As for myself, I’m a follower of the International Left Opposition (Trotskyist, Fourth International) and have differences with the Stalinism that’s still hanging over in some of the ranks of the Communist Party of China (CPC). I get stonewalled when I bring up the fact that one of the two founders of the CPC and a leading member of the Central Committee, Chen Duxiu, was a Trotskyist, that Deng Xiaoping may have been friends with Chen Duxiu or his circle. The USSR experimented with a mixed economy, but Stalin made a mess of it after his clique expelled Trotsky from the Party and Russia.

WTF??? What about the genocides, over ONE HUNDRED MILLION people murdered by the Soviet Union and the CCP. You are ok with that?????

Please read THIS and try to counteract my arguments (about how everything you said is just CCP lies), either in that thread or this one. Unless you can do so, you are yourself saying that you are a supporter of genocide and human enslavement.

You’re in Atlanta so you’re not even behind the CCP firewall. It should be very easy for you to find out the truth about this.

And all your pure nonsense about fascists… do you realize that the Neocons were/are neo-Trotskyites???

  • Sun, Oct 03, 2021 - 06:31pm

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The Chinese Communist Party follows, despite rationalizations or wishful thinking to the contrary, a Marxist-Leninist ideology. That will become more clear as they embark on their second Cultural Revolution in the years to come. Unfortunately, I suspect many here still do not adequately appreciate the threat posed by the PRC. We deny the unpleasant facts at our own peril.

Your question ‘anyone else think that China might be the puppet master in this plandemic?’ is a bit too imprecise to answer with a ‘yes’ or ‘no’. Here is what we *do* know with high confidence or certainty:

1) PRC has engaged in gain-of-function research at WIV on bat coronaviruses with aid from NIH and EcoHealth Alliance,

2) PRC restricted domestic travel while encouraging international travel in the early stages of the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak,

3) PRC has actively pursued biological weapons research programs for many decades,

4) PRC actively compromises Western institutions, politicians, academia on a massive scale, engages in intellectual property theft on a massive scale, flaunts the rule of international law, etc.,

5) PRC has the ultimate goal of supplanting USA as global hegemon

In other words, they are definitely up to no good.

I remain undecided on whether they intentionally released SARS-CoV-2 from WIV. Whatever the case, they *did* capitalize on this release by allowing it to metastasize into a global epidemic, resulting in tremendous economic damage, millions of deaths, and the erosion of personal freedoms throughout Western democracies. The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic has been a massive victory for PRC and is advances their plans for global hegemony. (This isn’t to excuse any wrongdoings by Western collaborators who also had a hand in the pandemic, but that’s a discussion for another time).

OP, you are definitely on the right track regarding PRC. To others who believe PRC is merely a hapless scapegoat – they are demonstrably wrong – and fatally so.

  • Tue, Oct 05, 2021 - 06:04pm

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    is China behind the plandemic?

So, here is the theory from the fringe, take it with a grain of salt:

The Globalists want to shift the center of the world from the West to the East, with China at the head of that group. Those in the West, aka Europe and North America are too problematic in terms of IQs and ideas. They want us g.o.n.e. and replaced by lower IQ, conformist brownish people who have lower expectations.

So the Globalists made a deal with China. There’s only one problem; China theoretically does not want to play along with the Globalists. They are not OK with all gay, all pedo, all the time.

At one point, I was certain that the virus was created in China. Now I suspect that it was Ft. Dietrich and it was then refined then released in Wuhan. But then again, I am a cynic, and might be completely wrong.

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