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  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 09:18am

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    Hans

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Today I had a very interesting conversation with a friend who grew up, and still lives, in Romania. I told him that in primary school I heard from the teacher about the Second World War, the rise of Nazism and the holocaust that followed. I remember asking the teacher how it was that no one saw it coming and that no one stopped it early. He didn’t quite know the answer to that either. I know that by now. I am witnessing it now and don’t want to have to tell my grandchildren later that I actually knew, but there was nothing I could do. When I hear or read about mandatory vaccinations and Coronapassports, I feel an enormous urge to respond. I want to resist.

After I was done he told me about his grandparents in Romania. At the time, Romania was part of what is now Germany and therefore quite Western. They were hardworking people, had some land and animals and were thus considered rich people. Overnight, a line was drawn across the country and the side of the line where they lived became communist. At that time, in that country it was better not to be labeled as “rich”. So his grandfather’s land was taken from him, but he and his fellow villagers continued to resist. They were arrested and deported and put to work in another part of the country. In everything they did or wanted to achieve, they were thwarted. So much so that they were forced to give one of their children away to a kind family of strangers in another part of the country. That was the narrator’s father. His father grew up with strangers, but at least that way he could go to school and make something of his life. Something that would have been impossible had he stayed with his parents.
Later, much later, the family is reunited.

I was impressed with that story. He continued: “The strongest quality of man is his adaptability. Sometimes there are forces at play that you know you will not be able to influence. Nazism, communism and the worldwide idiocy that is going on right now. Of course you can get angry and resist, but sometimes you know in advance that these forces will be too strong. If you keep resisting, you can be harassed for decades and life made miserable. But the outcome will be the same. You will lose your farmland. Then you can better follow a different strategy and that is to remain invisible as much as possible and make sure that you get through it with as little damage as possible.”

I can well imagine that many did this during wars, totaliarism and also now.

After this conversation, I started thinking about Peak Prosperity and the topics we are currently talking about. I notice that we often get stuck in anger and indignation. That makes sense and the anger and indignation are 100% justified. Fortunately, it is also often discussed how you can arm yourself against the predicaments that lay in front of us.
In a few months I will be given the choice of whether or not to take a third shot. I’ll probably take that one. I’m a 52 year old man so I won’t notice much if it will make me infertile. And if I’m going to die of it; fine. In that case, I have a better life behind me than I would have had ahead of me. It’s a matter of being the Gray Man. Do I just let myself be taken to the slaughter? What other choice did those people in the freight cars have when they were taken to Auschwitz, but to join the queue of people? Those people had no choice (anymore). You could flee, hide, fight or be taken away. There was no point in resisting. Never mind that it made any sense to convince your neighbors that what the government was doing was wrong.
Running is not possible. The whole world is going crazy. When there will be armed battles in a civil war, I will be ready to help or fight with them. But I will not be leading the troops. Until then, I’ll be the Grey Man. Hide  and be as resilient and adaptable as I can be. When they come to ask me where Anne Frank lives, I say: I know nothing.

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 09:24am

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Hans, some great insights there on the rise of Nazism and Hitler.  Thanks for sharing that information.  Would you still take the 3rd if you knew it could incapacitate you but not kill you?

 

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 09:34am

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I have no wish to hide. I just won’t. It might be life limiting but I will at least provide a loud diversion for those that do want to hide. I believe in God. I trust that wherever I am is the right place.

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 09:39am

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We are not all at equal risk to covid.

I’m about your age, but I don’t fear the virus. I have confidence in my health & immune system – so for me the jabs are a very risky choice with only marginal benefit, if any…

About 1-10 adults I know have suffered a serious adverse reaction from the new jabs.

I strived for economic independence from an early age, so I don’t have to worry about losing my job or home etc..

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 10:25am

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It wasn’t just about Covid during our conversation. Also about what awaits us with energy and inflation. He has experienced inflation in Romania during the 1990s. There are still things that will come to us where The Jab is child’s play compared.
The total lack of leadership and the mass hysteria in the population is not accidental. We’ve come to that agreement here at PP. A collapse of civilization awaits us. Whether it will be sudden or gradual I do not know, but it will not be easy and there will be many victims.
Victims among those who are unprepared and in search of food will perish. Whether or not through violence. Other victims by being characterized as The Other, as happened in Rwanda, for example.
It’s best (for me at least) to keep a low profile. Don’t go up the barricades. The crowd is already very heated. They want to see blood flow. When the mob comes to fetch the alleged witch, no one will listen to the one who asks for some nuance and to think calmly about the humanity of their behavior. When the mob is stirred up, a lynching ensues and nothing can stop them.
From a Gray Man position it is easier to survive and also to offer those who need help that help.

The first lynchings will take place on people who have posted a lot of resistance on social media.

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 11:22am

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    Ision

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Interesting how the old European mindset is so easily distinguished from the traditional American, in regards to resistance to tyrannies.

Survival at any cost, simply means being ready to accept any compromise, any betrayal of one’s values, and to take any action, no matter how morally corrupt, which one thinks will allow them to continue to live for another minute.

This is an ethics and a morality perfected by slaves, for slaves, who shall remain slaves, until someone else decides to allow them to be “Free” again…a state of being such slaves do not deserve, and who will not act to preserve.

If I hide, it is only to enable me to get closer to my foe, allowing them to drop their guard, or go among them, infest them with my menace, so I may give the proper “push” at a proper time.

But, this only works against small scale, local, autonomous, and unsophisticated, groups.   There is no hiding from the fully vested professionals, all of whom would be aware of my every attribute, as I was once one of them.

When they come for me, I will probably already be gone in search of them…and we shall only meet once.

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 11:26am

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I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

there comes a time in life where you have to make a stand. If we chose to “go with the flow” and lose our humanity in the process is that really a life worth living? How many “good germans” knew of the atrocities committed by the nazis and stayed silent? I cannot be a “good german”. I am not willing to sacrifice my morals to blend in. If it costs me everything then so be it. If they round up all the unvaxed and kill us then I will meet God knowing I stayed true to my beliefs.

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 11:35am   (Reply to #7)

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    Ision

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Just kill those doing the rounding up.  Simple.

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 11:44am

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    Good Germans

There were also many people who appeared to be “ good Germans” going with the flow… they weren’t out protesting or showing up in the newspapers… they were quietly hiding and feeding Jews, children and others. Same with the Underground Railroad. I imagine those speaking loudly against slavery were not the same people that were quietly transporting slaves.

There are many roles to play – best to get clear on what our individual strengths and gifts are.

  • Thu, Oct 28, 2021 - 12:27pm

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Thanks Imcdel.

I did say I am ready to fight. But what is the use of dying as a hero when you leave your loved ones behind? Do they also need to die a hero?

I refuse to be a slave but I do not have to do that in the open.

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