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Ideal real estate for bugging out

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  • Sat, Mar 28, 2020 - 08:41am

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    randy45

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Anyone have any suggestions for resources for deciding real estate for bugging out? I am hoping to find a sizable property that might allow self sufficiency and the potential for some income streams in Northern New England. Some things I am considering:

  • drinking water source on site that can be accessed without power in emergency
  • flowing water for potential hydro
  • potential for solar power
  • timberland harvesting
  • loose zoning to allow for multiple buildings
  • low property taxes
  • healthy soil
  • not too close to main roads/town centers – somewhat secluded

Evaluating these and determining costs though is a challenge. Properties that already have natural resource or existing systems from prior owners might be great. For example found a property that used to be a cranberry bog but after a cursory research, I wonder if this might mean there are contaminants in the land and not sure how realistic to consider more than a recreational cranberry harvest.

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I went through this a few years ago, thinking about finding such a property. Finally I concluded that I needed to ID a community (rural) to settle in and then from there, ID a nearby property that might be more secluded. Without ties to a local community, it’s pretty much impossible to protect a secluded location (unless you are a militia group). If I were doing this now, I’d liquidate my current real estate, pick a community in northern ME/VT/NH, one with something going for it (i.e. not a totally hopeless place with a lot of drug use), rent a small house in town, get to know folks, and then look around from there. You can’t do it without local support. Personally, I know there are Amish communities in N. New England — I’d look for a place near where they are. (I’m not free to do this due to marriage.)

  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 04:22am

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Great suggestions. Much like picking a conventional home, there’s lots of nuance to one’s circumstance and preferences. In my mind’s eye I am envisioning a place where I could setup some hydroponics (perhaps Kratky style), have some onsite water just in case and perhaps some power production. Of course things break and need maintenance so I am not envisioning being completely deserted or cut off from the rest of the world. I am calibrating to what (hopefully not) may be our dire circumstances over the next few years as the economic impacts are felt from the virus. Amazing how fragile the system is. Somewhere someone was saying, pre-covid, if every American spent just $87 less a month, the economy would go into recession. Seems like things are going to get ugly on the economy side

  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 04:23pm

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I personally would find community that can feed itself. Neighboring with the Amish is a goodbsuggestion. Another is to find a permaculture school to be near. Check permies.com forums forbintentional communities in the area or search for permaculture design schools in the area of your choice.

 

Example http://www.wholesystemsdesign.com/permaculture-design-course/

  • Tue, Apr 28, 2020 - 06:00am

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You know one thing going for my current location is our delivery options. We have 1-day/same-day Amazon Prime/Now, Instacart, Peapod, Shipt, many restaurants, etc. Some more rural locations I am considering just would be much more isolated from a supply chain standpoint. This may change as companies look to more drone deliveries. Another thing is internet connection. Some places I was looking at don’t have FIOS like connections. Look forward to Musk’s Starlink rolling out later this year. The issue is right now I don’t have a lot of farmable land so I am working on a hydroponics system and am considering designing it to be mobile. I guess these are the tradeoffs each individual has to answer for themselves… how much do you want to be on your own “island”

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