ICU filled w/covid story

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  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 04:00pm

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    Tealeaf10

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I was wondering what everyone’s thoughts were on this story.  Apologize if the topic was already discussed.  Is this legit?  It’s really confusing trying to figure what is really going on.  Thanks

 

Ray DeMonia suffered a cardiac emergency last month. But emergency staff had to call 43 hospitals in 3 states — all full because of COVID — before they could find an open cardiac ICU bed, according to his family.

He died in Meridian, Mississippi — some 200 miles away from his home in Cullman, Alabama.

“In honor of Ray, please get vaccinated if you have not, in an effort to free up resources for non COVID related emergencies,” his obituary reads. “He would not want any other family to go through what his did.”

Read more here: https://n.pr/3Cb8ydJ

  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 04:17pm

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That is the problem these days. No one knows if the story is true or simply made up out of whole cloth.

  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 04:36pm

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There was a small mention of this topic in a video forget which one. Basically, they keep the ICU full because that is the most expensive staff to retain. Therefore, keeping them there it keeps the money flowing in.

For example you could have a hospital with 40 ICU beds but only 10% have covid patients. That is only 4 beds but there are still other diseases and surgical procedures that require these beds too. People forget there are other things still going on currently besides covid.

I absolutely hate when I read stories that say “hospitals at capacity from covid” then you go look at the data. That shows the majority of beds are occupied but other things besides covid.

 

 

  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 04:38pm

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Some proportion of the “Covid” patients may be vax-injured patients.

And the reason ICUs are “full” these days is staffing shortages, not bed shortages.

  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 04:55pm

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Not just ICU but cardiac ICU, which (historically) was not the biggie in COVID hospitalization.  But maybe for the increasing adverse vaccine events…

  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 05:34pm   (Reply to #3)

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https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization

  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 05:49pm

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I didn’t look at the stories but my questions, which I doubt are answered, what is the change year over year?  Do we have more Covid patients or do we have fewer healthcare workers?  If you need another bed, you just roll one it or is it a staffing problem.  When you are mandating folks with natural immunity get a vaccine it is pretty obvious to anyone in the medical field that something in the system is very broken.

 

Then I would also ask what is a Covid patient?  Is this a positive PCR?  What is the cycle threshold? And did they get one vaccine, two vaccines or zero vaccines?  Without that data it is just all noise.

Now I will admit it seems Covid patients are in ICU for longer than those recovering from surgery.  Maybe we should stop killing them slowly with remdesiver and start using vitamin D, melatonin and ivermectin.

  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 06:16pm

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I live in a small-ish town in CA and we have a whopping 4 ICU beds so… I eye roll when I see these headlines…

They’re all just liars and thieves.

And when The Rona was in full swing our governor called out our hospital as being at capacity (which it wasn’t -had 2 patients) and our hospital threw 2 other patients in there to give him cover!

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My little hospital in Indiana closes their ICU if there aren’t sufficient patients, they just move them to the regular ward.  If they have the ICU beds open, they keep patients with non-critical needs in the ICU if their insurance will allow it.  I spent a night in there for observation, because my insurance would cover it.  The doctor diagnosed a V-tac (which is very serious).  When the EP specialist looked at the EKG, he broke out in laughter when he read the diagnosis then explained to me that it put a patient that needed nothing in ICU at ICU cost onto the floor, keeping the ward open and not overwhelming the nurses or bothering the hospitalist. I was in a private room so at least that was a win for me.

  • Mon, Sep 13, 2021 - 08:07pm

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The story was picked up on Vice of all places https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx538y/man-dies-after-being-turned-away-by-43-icus-slammed-with-covid-patients

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