I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

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  • Tue, Oct 19, 2021 - 08:21pm

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    I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

Dear all,

I want to get an idea out into spaces before anyone has a chance to remove (at least part of) my head or something.

I’ve heard many claims that mRNA vaccines are irreversible.

Now there is the question of what exactly these novel mRNA injections actually do.  Do they train far more cells than is disclosed to express spike proteins on the surface?  Does the immune system learn to attack the rest of the cell instead of learning to just attack the spike protein?  How badly does the immune system effectiveness drop because of the training to make non-neutralising antibodies?  I’m going to put out some ideas here that I think are logical, and open it up to this community for review.  Please note that this is me trying to get to the fundamental possibilities that could exist for reversing the effects of novel mRNA technology, not a comprehensive guide on how to make it work in real life…

Scenario:  mRNA alters DNA by splicing into it:  If this is actually integrating into the cells of some or all of the people who have had these new mRNA injections, and thus is causing a problem where cells are being attacked because of the spike proteins on their surface.  However, this is a problem that would express itself only at scale if there are a significant number of cells that have been altered.  Therefore, I think the same technology could be used to target the newly inserted DNA, as no other cells would be randomly producing spike proteins.  This would be very hard to target specifically to cells, but if tailored to only affect that specific gene sequence then it could be possible.  The main problem I see here is I don’t know what gene sequences could have been replaced, but it is possible that without targeting inert gene sequence excerpts the gene alteration wouldn’t be viable, so it’s an open question at the end there…

Scenario:  mRNA vaccine spike protein immunity malfunctions in effectiveness and/or accidentally targeting the rest of the cell, learning to attack the host body entirely:  If there’s a way to hunt down and eliminate memory cells, this could be reversed.  It’s pretty tough to say from my position how this could be achieved, but in theory, I think removing the memory cells could reverse problems with the learned immunity itself.  More to discuss here, definitely…

Scenario:  spike proteins themselves cause a tonne of damage just be being in the blood and organs:  This is not a great scenario to be honest, but using the treatments outlined in this community can mitigate these effects and I haven’t really heard much about people suffering permanent spike protein damage, but maybe I’m missing something here.  Not my most interesting idea, but still obviously something to consider in the larger question…

Then there are the reports of the hydrogel, the luciferase, the graphene oxide, all of which I think can be extracted from the body using some method or other…  the hydras I really don’t know about, those are a recent rumour

My point is I think we’re under the impression, mostly, that mRNA injections have to be completely irreversible, but I’m not sure that they actually are, fundamentally.  One can argue over the feasibility of this, but I have this strange intuitive feeling that the repetitive message that they cannot be reversed is something that may have been stoked sometimes to hide the possibility that they can.  Just thinking about it holistically as well as logically for a moment, why would we have the technology to alter genes but have zero hope of altering or reversing the natural response of our bodies to those alterations?  It just seems like a very fearful, closed up, paralysed way of thinking.  I bet there is a way to reverse just about anything that gene therapy can do, with similar technology.

I’m out of my field right now, but I think perhaps that’s what might give me a fresh perspective on the topic.  I know that in my field, there is a lot of tunnel vision thinking, so who knows…

And if anyone has a spare lab and some funding to reverse engineer whatever is actually in these new mRNA injections, that might be a start to understanding what can actually be done in the event that they end up more harmful than good.  I wish I had those kind of resources right now.

PS: if it does go wrong, maybe those companies making a massive profit on these should pay for other researchers we trust more to reverse engineer an antidote.

  • Tue, Oct 19, 2021 - 09:50pm

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    I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

You are way behind the curve and many of your assumptions are simply not correct, as is your understanding of how the mRNA serums are actually working, how they are designed, and how they cause damage and death.

What is going on is not something going wrong with the mRNA serums, which the drug companies are trying to solve and get right.   The serums are doing exactly what they are designed to do, they are not malfunctioning.

I am sorry.   But, the mRNA serums are, in fact, non-reversible, nothing can stop the damage they are going to do in either near or, in the long-term.   All that can be done is to treat the symptoms as they present themselves, such as neurological disorders, and possibly extend the life of the injected a bit…should they begin to present with Prion Diseases, and suffer the final results of pulmonary hypertension and inflammatory heart disease.

ADE is also not preventable…nor can any RT of the serum’s mRNA into DNA be reversed…should it take place (and it can).

This issue is extremely complex, and it is not possible to reach full understanding, if much of the data is secret from you, such as the specifics of the mRNA synthetics and how they have been modified to evade the immune system’s ability to even detect them…and how they have been engineered to function inside each cell they invade over 120 times…instead of just once.

If people really knew…what was going on…you would hear the gunfire.

 

  • Wed, Oct 20, 2021 - 12:25am

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    I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

No, There is no undoing this injection once its done.  Once your machinery ( cells DNA)has been hijacked,  Spikes are getting produced.  These are not natural spikes ( though the ones in Sars COV2 are likely no natural either.);  We have seen the damage these cause.  Which certainly does is not reversible.  its not like we get to go and clean up some mercury toxicity.  There is no clean up.  There may be treatment to lessen the effects, but there is no reversing the damage.

As for what is actually in the vaccines, besides jacking your cells machinery, and manufacturing deadly spikes, there seem to be clear evidence and admission of a nano-particle substance to help entry to the cells , your brain and anything else.  The substance is likely a graphene oxide which likely has a lot of potential applications.    However, it is not a trivial substance.  Carbon is cool because of the fancy chemical bonds it can form, but just as many deadly substances can easily form as those that are necessary for life.   Reference the benefits and potential toxicity of C60- AKA buckyballs.   Probably not too unlike graphene oxide.  But extremely sensative to light radiation.   Please recall how sensitive these vaccines are to degradation and how they have to be kept at super cool conditions.   I am sure during their studies they had good controls on this.  But are you really willing to trust some pharmacy tech and walgreens that prepared your injection and how it was stored with something this sensitive.  I believe the wide array of side-effects are not only due the actual actions and mechanics of these vaccines, but the troubling instability and necessary distribution and handling requirements as well.  AND then as with rushing everything, might there be some sort of contamination.  As per the Japanese findings.

This is not stuff you want to take, its not something you can undo.   If this was the type of vaccines we had in the past, there would be a whole lot more we could do.  This is will at least need something as crazy as the vaccines to fix the damage from the vaccines.  AND I can assure that cost will be enough to own every single $$$$ on the globe.

Final note, there may be more potential in a prophylactic.  I have been working on something,  which may literally halt the vaccine from being able to release its payload into your cells, thereby no spikes are produced.   Also, working on something that may destroy the spikes if made.   This would be a couple of supplements.  However, I am unsure how to test this or release this to the public as for fear if the knowledge became public, the supplements would quickly be removed from market.     There is also my favorite option which I may have joked about in a few threads, but perhaps is looking to be a more viable serious consideration, as we get closer to forced vaccination.   — The fat suit.   A good fat suit ( with life-like silcone skin ) painted with pimples and oily skin may end up looking real and gross enough , no one will examine closely..  And you take that injection into the fat suit. get your card. ( or cabon /social credits ) and move on with your life.

  • Wed, Oct 20, 2021 - 05:06am

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    Optimistic!

Skepticism is fine, but at an extreme they can limit progress and this is especially true in the health system.

I think we are on the verge of radical change as millions of desperate people trample anyone who stands in the way of anything that might work.  It will force adaptation and those people who right now are ignored, belittled by the medical community will drive us towards innovation in this sector like we have never seen.

Hang in there!  Humans gonna human 🙂

 

  • Wed, Oct 20, 2021 - 05:34am

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    I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

So will you now need a vaccine to repair the damage caused by another vaccine which was rolled out to supposedly counter the effects of a live-vaccine leak from a bioweapons program…?

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    I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

I’ve been noticing different comments and ideas to out scheme the scam of c-v and the developing passport control oppression. Folks your ideas, while from a well meaning place, is that of an enabler for these psychopaths.  You cannot pretend to be compliant with evil and destroy it too.  You may think you are saving yourself, but They will catch up with you, and you cause the weaker among us to stumble into harm and death by your appearance  to help normalize the evil. Be very careful of your motivations. Are you in the belly of the beast to destroy it? Or, are you having your cake and eating it too, taking pride in how clever you are?   Truth and light destroys evil, darkness, and wickedness. Truth must be lived, or you do not know the Truth.  Further, Truth sometimes requires sacrifice on our part who know the Truth. As we pray for those sick and dying, pray for the jabbed, and pray for all those who are sacrificing jobs, pensions, security, possessions, family, reputation, and protesting for this nightmare to end. Pray for those who realize they have made a mistake and are ready to not take anymore jabs. Pray for their continued health because who knows the problems they may have if they stop the jabs. Pray that they are given courage to move forward in a new direction.  Pray for all standing firm in their convictions of truth, morals, and principles.  Give them continued patience, prudence, and perseverance.  May God have mercy on all his children.

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    I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

Recently I came across this video about reversing vaccine injury
https://vsecretscc.com/cv-live?_kx=YQKhr6kwzZfAeOE823z4IyV7Azeh_DGbfZdjPxAq8M4%3D.WXNMR7

I have no medical background to evaluate if true or not what he’s talking about autophagy at around minute 9 in the video, but sounds promising though.

 

  • Wed, Oct 20, 2021 - 04:28pm

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    I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

So I absolutely do not condone the taking of these things right now, I haven’t taken them, I don’t trust pharmaceutical companies.

I am positing a very difficult question that I want to be in the minds of enough people that it cannot be destroyed.  That is, if you could get control of the exact schematics of the Death Star- I mean, the jabs, can you find a way to counter all the most important aspects of the damage that it causes?

I am well aware this would require a level of scientific work that rivals Lelouch vi Britannia managing to cancel out the fleija warhead at a critical moment in that epic anime, but I think that could put an enormous, inconceivable dent in ‘the plan’.

Technically, we don’t necessarily need to undo everything the jab does, just the core pieces that would have the greatest effect on mass mortality.

I can promise you we have a lot more things to worry about coming down the line.  I personally don’t want to have to deal with AI swarms of military robots without a massive numbers advantage of humans, and this whole thing could start spiralling out of control so fast it’ll make your eyes hurt.  Don’t think it’s all about getting us to comply with a mandate now so we’ll peacefully get in line and not notice what’s happened to us.  There will, not too long from now, be the military power to enforce it without having to have any brainwashed humans to pull any triggers.  This whole thing feels like a first move to me, not a last one, and has the feeling of serving a second purpose as a distraction and stalling tactic.  If we can actually break enough of the effects of the vaccine to keep the majority of people alive, we could swing the balance of power back into the favour of the not-0.1% if their plan relies on people being so ridden with morbidity or mortality that they cannot make any moves.

Yes, absolutely this would require the use of labs, and scientists.  My point is that if we get that far, not saying anything about the means of acquiring that position, then it’s possible it could be reversed.

REPLIES:

“So will you now need a vaccine to repair the damage caused by another vaccine which was rolled out to supposedly counter the effects of a live-vaccine leak from a bioweapons program…?” – it’s not a vaccine, and I think that it’s only logical that DNA alterations can only be reverse with DNA alterations.  Also this is why I said I would want the pharma companies to pay for it but not be the ones to actually do it, since they’re by and large a bunch of cretins.

“The fat suit.   A good fat suit ( with life-like silcone skin ) painted with pimples and oily skin may end up looking real and gross enough , no one will examine closely..  And you take that injection into the fat suit. get your card. ( or cabon /social credits ) and move on with your life.” – problem here is that they can just force whatever they want on you with no restriction on their power.  Does the CCP need to give a reason to tank your social credit score if you live in China?  Would the governments here need to give a reason to declare your vaccine passport invalid?  I’d rather have an Iron Man suit tbh.

“As for what is actually in the vaccines, besides jacking your cells machinery, and manufacturing deadly spikes, there seem to be clear evidence and admission of a nano-particle substance to help entry to the cells , your brain and anything else.  The substance is likely a graphene oxide which likely has a lot of potential applications.    However, it is not a trivial substance.  Carbon is cool because of the fancy chemical bonds it can form, but just as many deadly substances can easily form as those that are necessary for life.   Reference the benefits and potential toxicity of C60- AKA buckyballs.   Probably not too unlike graphene oxide.  But extremely sensative to light radiation.   Please recall how sensitive these vaccines are to degradation and how they have to be kept at super cool conditions.   I am sure during their studies they had good controls on this.  But are you really willing to trust some pharmacy tech and walgreens that prepared your injection and how it was stored with something this sensitive.  I believe the wide array of side-effects are not only due the actual actions and mechanics of these vaccines, but the troubling instability and necessary distribution and handling requirements as well.  AND then as with rushing everything, might there be some sort of contamination.  As per the Japanese findings.” – so this is a real issue, but I’m not sure that it’s not reversible.  Magnetic or ionised nanoparticles may be affected by slightly ionised salt baths that pull them from your body without affecting you negatively (no pun intended).  If you have enough stuff in your brain, that can be tricky I know, but with the size of these particles being much lower than parasites I think that it’s possible they could be pulled out without issue too.  Hydrogel self assembling solid antenna are a problem here, but I think ivermectin actually dissolves that stuff too, but I’m not sure.

“This is will at least need something as crazy as the vaccines to fix the damage from the vaccines.” – well, yes!  Absolutely it would!  Can we do exactly that?  That’s my question.  If we reach a point where we have enough researchers and resources on our side to work on it, can we do that?  I’m trying to think big here.

 

Our opponents have thought big, and have moved over a long period of time to set this up.  We are already in the noose, and it’s closing in.  So should we not expect ourselves to have to pull off something really impressive to break out of it?  Should we not attack the thing that is the least expected point of failure in the plan, because it is so obvious that it wouldn’t be attempted that it can be relied upon absolutely in their plan?  I don’t know what they want to do, but I think if there is actually not a mass morbidity or mortality event from this mass injection campaign, they would never see it coming.

  • Wed, Oct 20, 2021 - 04:31pm

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    I think mRNA shots could be reversible, but not easily: Please consider…

PS:  We could technically split teams up to work on just one aspect of the shots each, so if we have 50 teams and there are 25 actual bad effects from the shots, then we could assign on average two teams to work on trying to solve each one of those problems.

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    This thread is pointless….

Nordicjack said,

No, There is no undoing this injection once its done. Once your machinery ( cells DNA)has been hijacked, Spikes are getting produced. These are not natural spikes ( though the ones in Sars COV2 are likely no natural either.); We have seen the damage these cause. Which certainly does is not reversible. its not like we get to go and clean up some mercury toxicity. There is no clean up. There may be treatment to lessen the effects, but there is no reversing the damage.

I agree with Nordic.  Our immune systems are complex systems, and everybody is slightly different.  These shots are a huge hammer into our systems.. some people can take it without seeming to be phased.. some not.  The after effects of these shots can come in days, or even months, which greatly complicates the cause vs effect connection, especially with 90% of doctors unwilling to make any connections in the first place.  There is no answer other than to not take this shot for now.. putting hope into some kind of speculation like this is pointless and a distraction IMO.

https://t.me/AMM_MD/561

12 yo M 48 days after Pfizer dose 2 developed multifocal pneumonia, severe anemia, enlarged liver and spleen, severe autoimmune hepatitis with massive lymphoplasmocytic hepatic infiltration by histology, and elevated serum IgG and ANA.
The dr commented:  “The degree of liver infiltration with lymphocytes and severity of hepatosplenomegaly is atypical what I usually see in new diagnosis of autoimmune hepatitis.” Vaers 1766451

There is anecdotal evidence that IVM before, during, and after shots is helpful, but we don’t really know.

https://t.me/AMM_MD/534

22 yo F found dead in bed by her mother 18 days after vax. Autopsy showed her heart weighed 710 grams. It should weigh about 280. 1760635

Again, these shots can do damage long after the injection day…

https://t.me/AMM_MD/530

Healthy 44 yo M found dead in bed by his wife 126 days after JJ vax. Autopsy showed a DVT and 2 PE (clot in his leg and 2 in his lungs).
“My husband was a non-smoker and worked out 7 days a week including long distance running, gym twice a week, playing basketball and hiking 14,000 ft mountains. No one can explain to me why he developed clots. No history or family history of any clotting disorders.”
1764890

These shots are interacting with other drugs as well in ways that we have not been warned about;

https://t.me/AMM_MD/526

Healthy 26 yo F on birth control pills
(…you know where I’m going already)
202 days after vax: suddenly died of pulmonary embolism
YOUNG WOMEN ON BIRTH CONTROL SHOULD NOT GET THE VAX!
Here’s the case description:
“employee of facility. she came to work and was sitting in locker room and noted by another employee to be hyperventilating/shaking. Coworker got nursing staff who went in to assess her. Employee stated she had been having chest pain on and off for the past few days and that her PCP suggested getting tested for covid. She was again complaining of chest pain, stating she can”t breath, and became very anxious. BP was high, HR was in 170”s, oxygen was 87. Applied O2 via nonrebreather, contacted EMS. At time of EMS arrival employee fainted x 2 and went into asystole. CPR performed for almost an hour before time of death was called. medical examination performed post death and determined she had a pulmonary embolism.” 1765443

Bottom line:  Because the damage is so personalized.. and so varied.. there is not going to be a one-stop answer to unravelling it.

Note that the VAERS nutshell write-ups are from the anon Dr. AMM who got kicked off twitter… she has read almost all the VAERS entries and is a vocal anti-mRNA vax commentator.

 

 

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