I just got served notice
…well, Nov 1 is my line in the sand.. I’ve known this day is coming but was expecting January. I guess I better come up with a game plan. I’m open to any help. I still don’t know how this can happen under EUA. I think they were waiting the results of other suits etc… My state allows religious exemption but word is they won’t allow that. No idea how that can suffice. I’m just mind boggled.
My ideal situation would be the 10% clinicians and 30% nurses that are not “vaxxed” just not show up for work Nov. 1 but I know not many are in the financial position to just walk..
…well, Nov 1 is my line in the sand.. I’ve known this day is coming but was expecting January. I guess I better come up with a game plan. I’m open to any help. I still don’t know how this can happen under EUA.
They have probably been told that FDA full approval is a done deal, which I am sure it is.
An old friend of mine has told me about this exact kind of situation.
He is a graduate of a military academy, and has spent much of his life in the world of military contracts, program administration, and yes, .. even time on the front lines of conflict, and in the Cold War as well.
What he said to me, applies I think, to you.
“Sooner or later, you will face a situation where there are only three alternatives. Fight — Flight — or Submission.
All three have their risks and their range of outcomes.
What you will have to do is be willing to make an irreversible choice and be committed enough to follow it through to the very end and take all the consequences of what you decide to do.”
I do not envy your position.
But it had to come to that, didn’t it?
Hard choices to make, yours and yours alone.
May you choose wisely and may your results be in line with your Integrity and bring you Prosperity.
SYF, make them fire you. Don’t acquiesce, don’t fight it, just show up November 1st and force them to escort you off the premises. No exit interview, no questions, force their hand.
If you quit there will be no legal recourse if any is ever allowed.
But at least your wife is safe as of last time we communicated. Fingers crossed that stays that way.
My employer (a large multi-city law firm) is requiring that we all be vaccinated (in order to protect the immunocompromised) by mid September, meaning two weeks after the last jab. Those dates are coming up quickly, long before any of the vaccines are likely to have been fully approved.
I will not be vaccinated because I have an option of retiring instead. Not my first choice. I happen to have leverage. They really can’t afford to replace me. If HR disagrees with that, the people most damaged will unfortunately be the several I work with most closely.
What bothers me is the facts won’t matter at all. It’s just dogma. I thought attorneys were supposed to specialize in independent critical thinking. Obviously not. But it saves me from trying to frame the medical argument. Either they want to keep me or they don’t.
I’m even more bothered that a great many very young adults at my firm will have to be vaccinated. Many won’t have a clue they should object, or if they realize won’t have any leverage to. No chance my employer will stand by any harm that comes to them.
edited: I did say I would be on prophylactic therapeutics so would not be a danger to myself or anyone around me. And because of that I would not be willing to wear a mask or get tested frequently (which appear to be the punishment) unless also required of the vaccinated. I am sure this will all be met with incredulity.
Further noting that all of our offices are in highly blue cities. So I wasn’t surprised, just disappointed.
I am so sorry to hear that and surprised since it’s in South Dakota. I thought maybe the traditionally red states would hold out a little longer. I work for a large medical center to the south of you in Nebraska. Supposedly 80% of the work force has already taken the shot. In the bi-weekly employee meeting this morning via zoom, I saw people asking in the Q&A when there might be booster, if it were going to be mandated, how soon could kids get them, etc. The doctor giving the updates always has a fear mongering COVID presentation (Delta variant!!!) similar to the MSM narrative and strongly encourages vacc but never mentions other treatments or even supplements. Questions about Ivermectin in the Q&A go ignored and now people just don’t ask anymore. The hospital system already identifies people with stickers who have taken the jab so those without still need to wear masks in non-clinical areas (even as much as possible while eating in break areas, etc.). Those who don’t want to wear the sticker, don’t have to but then they have to wear a mask. I’ve never seen so much virtual signaling and carrot & stick motivation in my entire life. Why can’t be all just mind our own business and live normally?
I am fortunate to be working in a small private college associated with this medical center. My paychecks come from the medical center but we have a lot of our own rules over here separate from them. I hope it stays that way or I will be in your shoes and I already have been thinking a lot about what I would do in the situation. I agree that you shouldn’t quit, make them fire you. At least you could collect unemployment. Also, take heart – a lot could change between now and November. It could be a scare tactic to get people take it sooner than later. Perhaps data will come out that will be too damning to be ignored/suppressed or there will be more loud voices against.
Friend Monica got the jab. She’s now in hospital with heart problems.
I wanted to say that I feel bad about what you are going through.
I am retired and don’t face that choice, although I suppose that they will come after me one way or another.
But that aside, I feel for you. I don’t know what I would have done if I were considerably younger and facing that choice.
I have heard rumors that our medical institution is preparing to do the same.
Last week they required us to “register” as vaccinated or unvaccinated so that we can be assigned the blue or orange colored name badge.
I’m retired too but if it were me I’d make them fire me then I’d sue the Hell out of them. Of course, that’s the Philadelphia in me talking. A Philadelphia lawyer would take the case on commission (usually about 40% of any settlement) so there would nothing out of pocket for you.