Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State

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  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 11:33am

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    Jim H

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    Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State

There are two things I want to illustrate through this thread;

1)  Hydroxychloroquine, aka HCQ, if used in the proper treatment regime along with Zinc supplement + Zithromax, and if used as early as possible in the course of Covid-19 infection for at risk individuals, is an absolute game changer in terms of the outcome, specifically keeping almost all victims, even those very much at risk, from needing hospitalization at all.

2)  There are forces at work attempting to make you afraid of this drug by exaggerating the dangers, using the need for gold-std randomized, placebo controlled studies as a cudgel to keep the vast majority of people in the country in the dark – to keep them from rising up and demanding that all efforts be made to manufacture and acquire enough of this drug quickly.  These political forces are attempting to hamstring success of drug outcomes by only allowing this to be used late in the disease course, for patients already on ventilators.  Every day we don’t cry out for HCQ is another day of rising deaths on a ventilator.. another day closer to devastation.  This is apotential learning moment for all… if you understand the efficacy profile of HQC, and yet you see folks like Dr. Fauci brushing it off, you will likely experience some degree of cognitive dissonance.  What’s going on you might say?  Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

Let’s start with an interview done yesterday with the hero of our story, Dr. Zelenko of NY.  It’s his work, and his efforts that came to the attention of Trump.  Dr. Zelenko’s latest treatment outcome results, as discussed in this video, are as follows;

He has treat 911 patients (no, I didn’t make that number up) and of these he deemed 350 high enough risk, based on age, existence of co-morbities, difficulty breathing, etc., to give them the drugs.  Of these 350 high risk, sick patients treated, he has had Zero deaths, 6 admitted, and 3 intubated (with one back off).  That’s it.

Just reading this should make you fuming mad.. if it doesn’t, I don’t understand what you are thinking… maybe you are just so deeply affected by mass media induced Trump Derangement Syndrome that the logical part of your brain has stopped working.  I say this with all sincerity because I voted for Obama in 2008.  My wife (now-ex) and I sat and cried together at the time he was elected with elation that the US had evolved far enough out of it’s racist past to elect a Black president.  At the time, I had no idea what lay ahead, or that the Globalist Deep State was behind all of the wars, and that Obama was at best a well-spoken puppet with little real power.  At worst he was one of the early leaders of an ongoing secret coop attempt, using the powers of the US and international surveillance state to try to take a sitting president out of power, using any and all means.

Here is the first video link – you can here Zelenko speak starting at about the 5:00 minute mark;

 

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 11:37am

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    Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State – and here is the enemy

No commentary needed;

  https://www.yahoo.com/news/dr-fauci-shuts-down-fox-144408827.html

Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci left the hosts of Fox & Friends disappointed and frustrated Friday when he threw cold water on their insistence that the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine is a game-changing cure for the coronavirus.

Citing a recent poll showing that 37 percent of doctors around the world feel the drug is currently the most effective treatment of COVID-19, co-host Steve Doocy added that frequent Fox News guest Dr. Mehmet Oz recently touted a small Chinese study that found the drug had some efficacy in treating the virus.

Doocy went on to play a clip of Dr. Oz wondering whether Fauci was impressed with the results of that study. The Fox host asked the top physician to respond to the TV doctor.

“That was not a very robust study,” replied Fauci, a member of the White House coronavirus task force. He also pointed out that while there’s still a possibility of a “beneficial effect,” the scale and strength of the evidence is not “overwhelmingly strong.”

Are you mad yet?

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 12:02pm

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    Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State

What I cannot believe is how asleep /unaware/ docile 90% of the sheeple are, found mainly in UK /USA/ Canada other?

I am one little old lady living in Panama and through the internet and my little brain I figured out what was going on in a few days of researching all media third week in January.

But then again I have not watched TV since 1983, read very little mainstream media, do not involve myself in politics or speak with many first worlders as I have lived mostly out of the first world since 1986.

I simply cannot believe how brainwashed the sheeple are.  I would feel sorry for them but they do not wish to awaken, or inconvenience themselves with looking around the world, seeing misery, and -here is the key – helping -…Selfish and myopic they look into their phones.

If there are aliens I dont blame them for looking around and thinking,,,,,world better off without the human demonic ego mind controlling everything.

The state of the world, the highly likely deep state plus theories being real is far more frightening than any bioweapon/plague could be because it is not what it seems.

Remember JFKs final speech about the “society”.  I watch it for motivation.  Those of us who are awake must strive to awaken others even though it is most frustrating. It matters if we don’t just give up.

Chloroquine is FAR LESS TOXIC than a whole LOT of prescription meds.  I have been on it for a month already – once a week as a prophylactic.  My husband and 8 friends followed me.

 

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 12:59pm

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    Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State – You go Mary!

Thank you Mary!  Every time I run into another truly awake person like yourself it fortifies my hope for humanity.

Many people are put off by this topic because they think it is somehow political… it is not.  It is simply about truth, and freedom.  I yearn for a day when we can once again have a free press, a true fourth estate that is not captured, and we can as a society have real political debate about ideas, where real differences can and should exist, without being tinged with leftist and deep state propaganda that is carefully created to divide us, so that we don’t see the real wizard behind the curtain.

Now, back to our story…..

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 01:04pm

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    Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State – Let’s go back a month

The ideas behind the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and Zinc together have been in the open discussion for at least a month.  A month is a long time when you are at war.  Just as a reminder, the excellent MD pulmonologist Dr. Seheult, who has a side business creating video content for medical instruction, told us first about the role of Zinc, and two days later about the role of HQC in these videos;

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 01:22pm

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    study timeline

Poking around, I found some dates.  The New York City trial:

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/03/26/new-york-perform-massive-real-time-experiment-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-patients/

… Per WaPo, this isn’t a clinical trial (no one’s getting a placebo, obviously), it’s an “observational trial.” Doctors are going to give out the drug freely and carefully chart what happens. In a few weeks we’ll have meaningful numbers about doses, survival rates, effectiveness at different stages of the disease, and so on. Normally it takes nine months or so to arrange something like this; New York’s rolling it out in three days. The clinical trials, I take, it will merely end up confirming what doctors in New York City discover first.

So this NYC study started on March 24th.  How long will it take to complete.  Say 2-3 weeks, perhaps?  It has been 12 days already.  So, earliest, April 7th.  I suspect Trump will ask to see interim results for this trial every single day.  “Are we there yet?”  Heck.  That’s what I’d do.

I was relieved to note that the trial would test the treatment at different stages of the disease – they aren’t just trying it on patients with too much damage to have a meaningful effect.

Here is one trial I liked.  “covidpep” – a post-exposure protocol.  Endpoint is in 15 days (Apr 21), with “completion date” May 12.

https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04315896

  • To test if post-exposure prophylaxis with hydroxychloroquine can prevent symptomatic COVID-19 disease after known exposure to the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.
  • To test if preemptive therapy with hydroxychloroquine early in the sypmptomatic COVID-19 disease course can prevent progression of persons with known symptomatic COVID19 disease, decrease hospitalization.

Primary Endpoint: April 21, 2020

I also note a trial for Remdesivir which started March 15, and will finish in May.  I’m just guessing that Gilead would prefer that their much more expensive product (delivered by IV) wins the day.  Heck.  I hope they all work.

https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04292730

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 01:22pm

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    Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State

jerryr had several links on HCQ.  Can you find these and bring them to this thread?

 

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 01:34pm

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    medcram

I really enjoyed the medcram/zinc/hcq videos.  Super informational, and easy for an “I never took organic chemistry or cell biology” guy to understand.

 

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 01:36pm

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    Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State – for Sandpuppy

Good idea my friend!  Here is the link to the original post by JerryR;

How We’ll Beat The Coronavirus

And here is a copy/paste of it;

I agree completely, Jim! When Chris featured a discussion of chloroquine in a video two weeks ago, the headline was “chloroquine: a promising treatment?” And in the video he said he wasn’t sure about it. But, there really is no “question mark” needed. Let’s review the facts.

The Chinese discovered this first. J. Gao, Z. Tian & X. Yang from Quingdao, China reported that clinical trials of chloroquine were conducted in ten hospitals, and that “results from more than 100 patients have demonstrated that chloroquine phosphate is superior to the control treatment in inhibiting the exacerbation of pneumonia, improving lung imaging findings, promoting a virus- negative conversion, and shortening the disease course”.

Subsequently, the Chinese choloroquine treatment protocol was adopted in South Korea, where the epidemic was controlled with about 2% fatality rate.

Didier Raoult is one of the most prestigious and prolific infectious disease specialists in the Western world. He promptly accepted the Chinese and South Korean results, and started treating patients with hydroxychloroquine, combined with azithromycin. He published two preliminary studies, including a recent one following 80 patients, showing outstanding results.

A running tally of patients treated with the Raoult protocol is maintained by Southern France Morning Post in conjunction with IHU Mediterranee Infection Institute and AP-HM hospitals. As of today they have treated 1,677 patients, with only two fatalities so far.

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko says that as of March 27, he has treated 669 covid-19 patients in his New York practice using a similar protocol (adding zinc), and out of those, there have been zero deaths, zero intubations, and two hospitalizations.

Dr. Raoult argues that with evidence as good as this, doing clinical trials that involve withholding treatment from a control population, is like doing experiments comparing the survival rate of skydivers with or without parachutes. It’s no longer ethical to run double blinded, controlled studies.

It doesn’t have to be either chloroquine, or masks. They’re both great ideas. But of the two,  chloroquine has the greater life-saving potential.

Edit:  Sorry but the embedded links didn’t come through in the copy/paste.  As well, the initial link takes you only to the thread in which JerryR’s post can be found.. not directly to his post.  I believe we used to be able to link to a unique post in the old days.. but we seem to have lost that ability.  Anyway, that is the right thread.. if you look down it you will find JerryR’s post with working links.

  • Sat, Apr 04, 2020 - 01:53pm

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    Hydroxychloroquine vs The Globalist Deep State

I posted this video in one of the threads but I thought I would re-post it here:

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