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  • Sun, Aug 21, 2011 - 09:01pm

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    YoungEntrepreneur

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    AO- regarding the Chris Sacca video

How funny, saw this video a couple of months ago.

I did not know that You Tube link was to the Chris Sacca commencement address.

GOOD STUFF!!! Very fascinating guy. Good call. Even though I had already seen it, it’s good to know someone else agreed with the value it offered.

Thx for offering your take.

YE 

  • Mon, Aug 22, 2011 - 11:27am

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    Vanityfox451

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    Chris Sacca’s Commencement Address …

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YoungEntrepreneur wrote:

The moral aspect of such a war declaration is irrelevant for the pruposes of this discussion. Although I do not wish for war I have no say or influence on whether it happens or not. The reality is, after money printing, that is what the US does best.

Actually, YE, we all have a say and influence on whether it happens or not.  When our personal behavior is such that it supports an intention to profit from such an event, we are, either directly or indirectly, complicit in its occurence.  When we oppose such profiteering in our thoughts and subsequent actions, we do just that little bit to prevent it.  There are enough areas to profit from where I would not want to even consider such a profit path.  Why not look at a positive path to profit rather than a negative one.  When you adopt an attitude of intentionally profiting from the purposeful creation of pain and suffering, you start a slide down a slippery slope that will eventually take you where you really don’t want to go.  I think you’re better than that … and if not, it may be time for some serious introspection.  You seem like you have a lot of energy and potentially fruitful ideas.  You can do a lot and go far without venturing into the dark side.

This talk may be worth a listen.

You don’t want to become known as someone who has accumulated their fortune on the backs of others or by creating or supporting the misfortune of others.  When societal acrimony rises to the point where recrimination and revenge come into play, you may find yourself in an exceedingly uncomfortable position from which there may not be any retreat nor escape.  I wouldn’t go there personally but YMMV.

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ao,

A well thought out post, with a video of an address I have hopes the audience will take heed …

Thankyou

Paul

 

  • Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 04:59am

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    agitating prop

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    If you were a foreigner

If you were a foreigner and it was your kid’s head that was going to be blown off in a foreign land, the war profit question would be so abhorrent to you, you wouldn’t ask it. A detached, clinical amorality about profit is an outgrowth of a kind of fatalism about our lack of power as individuals….but we do have tremendous power. We can withdraw to some extent from a system that is essentially evil.  We should be more than yield seeking automatons, oblivious to the effects of our collective actions, ideas and beliefs. We owe our children so much more.

It is crazy to ask how one can benefit from wars they don’t believe in–a very mercenary point of view. Sorry,I understand where you are coming from and know many people who think as you do, and would tell them the same thing. You can’t separate out the morality of this issue from it’s practical aspects.

  • Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 06:11am

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    Re: Agitating Prop

Sorry, but it’s a fair question.

Face it, there’s nothing you, I or anybody on this board can do that is going to change much of this war mongering and profiteering in the near future. This conspiracy is baked in the cake, the system is rigged and the game and its major players are all corrupt. They wield incredible power and influence.

Look at what’s happening in Libya right now. What’s being reported in the mainstream media is nowhere close to reality. Watch the RIDICULOUS 9/11 celebrations next month. Do you really think we won these wars or accomplished anything by supposedly killing Bin Laden? What’s happened to the US over past 10 years (much as a result of BS wars abroad and in the name of fighting terrorism) is nothing short of an epic tragedy.

This is a pure investment question. Emotion is detached. Many of the same things many here are investing in also coincide with such considerations.

Your rhetoric sounds wonderful but there’s also a little thing called reality. Given that, you do realize that one of the main ways to acquire influence and political relevance is by accumulating some standard of wealth.

If you want to help your children get them out of the influence of a system bent on taking advantage of them, enslaving them and leveraging them. Acquire enough financial freedom that the system can not control or negatively affect your life to an intolerable level.

What’s coming is inevitable. It’s fantasy to think your vote or letters to your congress man will matter. At least not in the short-term. The S needs to HTF before a true system reset and national retrospective is legitimately considered. Tons of people need to be voted out of office and removed from power before there’s a chance for reconciliation. The US needs an overhaul and really not much will change until there is no choice. A severe crash needs to take place.

Opt out of this insanity, stop fueling their system and learn to live well independently. That’s the best revenge.

Some battles are just not worth waging. Create your own life and take care of those you love. Build a consensus around like-minded people and build a community with them. Ramming your head repeatedly into brick walls trying the change the minds of stubborn and corrupted people rarely leads to desirable results (at least not in one person’s lifetime). Concentrating energies to fight this system traditionally is futile.

Rhetoric and pretty illusiions not based on practical strategies and tactics are a waste of time.

I asked because I have information and contacts that lead me to be highly confident about certain events taking place. I have no say in them of course but I certainly can learn to protect myself from the side effects and position myself to profit from these consequences. They are going to take place no matter what.

I was just wondering if anyone had anything to add that was not already obvious. So far, not really aside from whining about how this was such a terrible question to ask.

Spend a little time studying what this Libyan invasion and the 9/11 mess is all about and learn to respond to it as opposed to simply just whining and groaning about it like everyone else.

Nothing personal, we just see this differently. I care very little for anything other than what something really is and what do about it that’s under your control. 

Best,

YE 

  • Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 01:05pm

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    URS Corps and General Dynamics …

YE,

You’re probably right you know …

Yes, go profit from the wars raging around the world. You could make an absolute killing!!!

Invest in the rare metal elements that go into missile guidance systems. That’s surely going to pay out big time. In fact, anything remotely tethered to the materials that make up the general day to day running of the 800+ American military bases around the world – from sanitation, food, transport, communication, training – you name it, the sky is the limit!!!

I mean, after all, over half of the income taxes of the United States go toward maintaining the war machine, so why shouldn’t you get a cut in that? There’s still plenty to go around, with plenty of other people doing it, so why shouldn’t you?

URS Corp and General Dynamics – they should be your first port of call. You wouldn’t need to be in the least bit innovative – just chuck some of your money at their stocks and you’ll see your income grow!

They’re major operations are actually supported with government allocated money to the war effort, rather than investments within the States in creating non military jobs, but I mean, a present average of $1,500 billion per year – and more than half the yearly income tax of the country – is nothing to be sniffed at if the general public are too disempowered to argue with this effect, right?

Simply find out which politicians are in the pocket of what military corporations, and follow the money. You just can’t go wrong!!!!

This is the very best book that I could recommend. From its pages, I guarantee you could be on your way to earning vast profits within days : –

The Sorrows of Empire by Chalmers Johnson [Amazon.com]

Brief excerpts

Best,

Paul

 

  • Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 07:51pm

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    YoungEntrepreneur

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    Vanityfox451 – URS Corp & General Dynamics

Hey Paul,

Thanks for offering your insights. Yours was the most helpful and on topic one for sure.

I have always considered rare earth elements and defense stocks as part of this plan. Figuring who the private contractors and public businesses that stand to earn those contracts is huge.

I’d heard of Blowback but had not read it. I was an International Relations major in college so I have some background.  

Unfortunately, war and country reconstruction are two of the most profitable endeavors an empire can undertake. The ones at the top truly benefit but often the nation loses on the whole. I’m not connected enough to directly profit or have a role but can at least profit from these trends just like others here plan to profit from the gov’t destroying the US dollar.

None of us want to see the US monetary system collapse or the US wage unconstitutional or unjust wars but they are going to do it anyway. Might as well invest in things like gold and rare earths to both protect yourself from the downside and profit from these undeniable trends.

I’ll certainly check out the book you referenced. Thanks.

YE

 

  • Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 09:02pm

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    Life 101

Life isn’t about profits.

  • Wed, Aug 24, 2011 - 12:12am

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    a faustian bargain

YE,

I am saddened by your posts since you seem to be someone with many good insights. It is hardly "whining" for others on the forum to offer other points of view. For the most part, they were delivered respectfully and in the spirit of constructive feedback. Yet because they have not responded within the context of your cynical worldview, you have implied that they are out of touch with reality and perhaps even a bit delusional.

I offer a few additional comments for your consideration:

This is a pure investment question. Emotion is detached. Many of the same things many here are investing in also coincide with such considerations.

This is the kind of moral departmentalization and rationalization that allows atrocities to happen. Basically, you comprehend the horrors caused by war and other aspects of our global financial/political system, but you are loathe to give up opportunities for personal gain. So you justify your participation by saying in essence, "I can’t change the system, so I’m going to detach myself emotionally from the consequences while I profit from it, then I’ll use that money to protect myself and my family from its evils."

A faustian bargain if there ever was one.
 

Opt out of this insanity, stop fueling their system…

Agreed! And you can start today. The only real "vote" we have anymore is where we choose to place our time, money and attention.
 

Your rhetoric sounds wonderful but there’s also a little thing called reality. Given that, you do realize that one of the main ways to acquire influence and political relevance is by accumulating some standard of wealth.

Many wise people have taught about the illusion of "reality" throughout the ages, so I will not attempt to address that topic here…that’s a journey, not a quick summary. However, I do wish to challenge your assumption that wealth will provide influence or safety. One need look no further than Ghandi or Mandela for examples of people who achieved tremendous political influence with very limited financial means through the sheer force of their moral authority. Given the emphasis that our culture places on celebrity and wealth, it is unsurprising that many people feel as you do…I’ve certainly been in that place. But there are many problems with thinking that having a lot of money will protect us. To begin with, the time, effort and mental energy we expend to achieve it almost invariably shape our lives and those of our families in negative ways, especially if we compromise our values in the process. Then, if we are lucky enough to accumulate a large amount of wealth, we become obsessed with saving, growing and protecting it. And if you believe that you can build a fortress to protect yourself from natural and/or social unheaval, just take a look at this evening’s news for images of Libyan rebels overrunning Ghadafi’s fortified compound for the latest example of the fallacy of that belief.

If you envision enriching yourself by gaming this evil, corrupt system, then flying off in the sunset in your private plane to your well-stocked, fortified home in the wilderness to live a safe, virtuous life…well, good luck with that.

  • Wed, Aug 24, 2011 - 12:27am

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    Reality tunnel …

Katyan,

This made me smile …

Every kind of ignorance in the world all results from not realizing that our perceptions are gambles. We believe what we see and then we believe our interpretation of it, we don’t even know we are making an interpretation most of the time. We think this is reality. – Robert Anton Wilson

Reality Tunnel

Paul

  • Wed, Aug 24, 2011 - 12:38am

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    Re: Life 101

Life isn’t about profits.

Great!

I knew I shouldn’t have listened to this guy.

 

 

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