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  • Sun, Feb 20, 2011 - 07:56pm

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    bluestone

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    Hiding food

I have followed the crash course for over two years now and have made many inroads to protect myself and my family.  While I have stored food in my home for a crisis, I continue to be concerned that this supply will be at risk of theft.  Here are some questions that keep running through my head:

When a major longstanding crisis comes, will I be able to keep my stored food concealed? I don’t know.   storing food, as i’ve found, takes up a fair amount of space

 will I be subject to theft or home invasion?  yes, a definite possibility

Can I guard and defend my home and food supply 24/7?  No, absolutely not

I clearly see the need for hiding at least a portion of my stored food.  It would be a backup plan in case my home is ransacked.  What alternative hiding places do I have?  Can I bury some food underground in 5 gallon containers?  

Any input or suggestions would be appreciated.

thanks Brian

  • Sun, Feb 20, 2011 - 11:32pm

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    bluestone wrote:  Can I

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  Can I bury some food underground in 5 gallon containers?  

thanks Brian

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If the containers and food were sealed and airtight I don’t see why not?

  • Mon, Feb 21, 2011 - 02:50am

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    Sure you can.Also, if you

Sure you can.

Also, if you are where you need to post 24/7 vigilance, perhaps you should bail to your bugout location where you have the rest of your food stored.

  • Mon, Feb 21, 2011 - 04:45am

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    bluestone wrote:I clearly

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I clearly see the need for hiding at least a portion of my stored food.  It would be a backup plan in case my home is ransacked.  What alternative hiding places do I have?  Can I bury some food underground in 5 gallon containers?  

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Bluestone

A lot depends on your climate.  That buried food would be hard to get to under a snow bank with the ground frozen solid down to three feet.  Then there is the question of your container seals surviving the expansion and contraction from temperature changes, which also can spoil your food as it freezes and thaws.  Water leakage would be an issue.  You should consider a rented storage space.  Not cheap, but might be worth it as insurance.  Supplies at a bug out location would be even more vulnerable to theft unless you were there.  And you wouldn’t know they were gone until you arrived.  Having supplies in more than one location is an important issue

Travlin 

  • Mon, Feb 21, 2011 - 10:21am

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    bluestone

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    TycerI still don’t have a

Tycer

I still don’t have a bug out location to store food.  Maybe I should work on that.

Travlin

I live in upstate NY, so snow and frozen ground are an issue.  Also, plenty of burrowing creatures in my area (chipmunks, rabbits, moles).  I wonder if they would chew their way through the containers.  I suppose looking into a rented storage space is a good alternative.  there happens to be a climate controlled storage facilitiy close to me.  I kind of figured storage facilities would be one of the first placed to get robbed, but maybe not.

 

thanks Brian

  • Mon, Feb 21, 2011 - 10:23am

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    Food Inside The Walls

 

Maybe you can hide some recent-dated MREs in between the interior walls of your house, then replace the drywall/plaster and paint over it. Can’t say mice or insects won’t get into it, though, unless you’ve got a metal container.

But the best idea is to bury it in a sealed metal container. Sure there may be ice and snow above, but there’s usually a line below which the earth doesn’t freeze and temperatures remain relatively stable year-round.

You can also flush some in a tree hollow or even hollow out part of a tree, taking care to camouflage it, and again protecting against vermin and weather.

Poet

  • Mon, Feb 21, 2011 - 11:48am

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I live in upstate NY, so snow and frozen ground are an issue.  Also, plenty of burrowing creatures in my area (chipmunks, rabbits, moles).  I wonder if they would chew their way through the containers.  I suppose looking into a rented storage space is a good alternative.  there happens to be a climate controlled storage facilitiy close to me.  I kind of figured storage facilities would be one of the first placed to get robbed, but maybe not.

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Big manure pile generates heat.  Heat keeps ground from freezing.  Ground provides thermal stability.  Military style aluminum storage containers found in army surplus catalogs provide air/moisture/rodent tight seal.  Certainly not convenient but it can provide an emergency flush.  I’d pass on a storage facility.  Vulnerable to theft (both from outsides and from facility owners) and generally unheated with wide temperature swings due to metal structures.

  • Mon, Feb 21, 2011 - 02:12pm

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    bluestone

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Poet and AO

thanks again for your input.  I am starting to like the idea of burying some food in a metal container.  I have to be discreet as I live in a suburban neighborhood.  have you all done this?

Brian

  • Mon, Feb 21, 2011 - 03:25pm

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    Done This? No

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Poet and AO

thanks again for your input.  I am starting to like the idea of burying some food in a metal container.  I have to be discreet as I live in a suburban neighborhood.  have you all done this?

Brian

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Aside from hiding snacks from my parents when I was a kid,  no. But I’ve read quite a bit on-line about people who wanted to hide stuff. There’s a book about hiding stuff by (I think) Loompanics. You also get a bit of an education watching Schindler’s List.

Don’t forget about investing a little extra your own portable auxilliary utility nutritive close-in housing (PAUNCH). You can live for DAYS off that. 🙂

Poet

  • Mon, Feb 21, 2011 - 03:35pm

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    Rihter

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    I have just recently started

I have just recently started preparing based on the Crash Course (I do have a different take on preparation however).

I don’t have any advice, but I do have a question.

If you are in a position where you have to depend on hidden food, because of a breakdown in society, how do you plan on replacing that food once it’s gone? I imagine if it came to the point suggested, by the idea of hiding food from your neighbors, you are going to be in a world of trouble regardless of the availability of food.

If you can’t trust the people around you to that degree….I don’t know, that is a sad state of affairs. You might want to concern yourself with strengthening your bonds of friendship in your community as opposed to finding the answer to hiding food.

There is strength in numbers. I hope this helps a bit.

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