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  • Thu, Feb 19, 2009 - 11:47pm

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    Re: Having trouble maintaining my humanity

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I do actually enjoy the U tube postings despite the fact I don’t get anything else done, so please do.

Of course I got out the Matrix.  I really really enjoyed it.  I enjoyed the concept in the film that you wake up and find that all you thought was real was just a dream with no reality, that we are a slave to.  Maybe that is part of the human condition that we all want freedom, but as humans we are unable to recognise when we are tightly bound in to a system.  Or maybe I am just getting too deep.

Trouble is, the movie is a trilogy and I had to go back and rent the final two movies.  So I got the end of the story but of course they were no where as good as the first movie.

 

On a different note, this morning we have been given 4 weeks to get out of our rental property.  So now I am in a rush to buy something, but have no idea where the best place is to locate to.  I know a lot of opinions are already all over the forums, but I need some more opinions !

If I plan for Madmax, I need to buy the place we looked at way out in the sticks by itself.  But my inclination is to buy a big bit of land with no house and just grow things – closer to society.  It is close to a town which has not got the socio -economic reputation that I am accustomed to.  So I am a bit worried about that in tough times. 

I am using the assumption that NZ will transition "relatively" smoothly over time with all its arable land around towns.

But then maybe I am underestimating the importance of buying a small suburban house within walking distance to electric trains and public transport.

I am feeling rushed in to deciding – ahhhhhh

  • Fri, Feb 20, 2009 - 07:44pm

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Hi Amanda,

I think practical and level headed answers need throwing back at you then, rather than a film review? Though I agree that part 2 and 3 of The Matrix lost their way and sold out for the money…

I’ve lived and worked in New Zealand for about 2 years over the space of a decade and, speaking from experience, the last demographical place you want to be moving to is a place chock filled with ‘Dole-Bludging-Hoons’. You need to be on your feet and along with your husband, talking to as many people as you can about their feelings of the place they live. Knocking on doors and asking questions is hard sometimes but, this is going to be a choice that is going to affect the rest of your life?

There are cracks that are going to appear in your choices much sooner than you can imagine that are going to affect your day to day relationship with your partner if you buy down to price and not upto standard. You can remain pre-occupied with areas based on your own pre-assumptions of where you’ve ‘Come From’, but ‘This’ is where you’re headed and there’s a difference to your needs.

I remember a story I was told once by an old lady I used to visit when I was a child – Along a dirt track up on a mountainous plain sat an old man resting his feet while sitting on a rock. By and by a man came by and asked, "tell me old man, what is the town ahead like?". The old man asked, "Well, what was the place you came from like?" "Aah", said the man, "the people were ever so friendly and went out of their way to help. Never a day went by without laughter". "Then", said the old man, "I believe this is also what you will find in the next town". The man thanked the old man and set on his way. By and by, another man came by the old man sitting on the rock whilst resting his feet and asked, "Old man, what is the next town ahead like?" The old man said, "What was the town you came from like?" "Well", said the man, "the people were mean-spirited and spiteful, treated me like a slave and worked me long hours. I couldn’t find a single friend to share my sorrow with". The old man, sat there on the rock replied, "I’m sorry, but I am afraid you’ll find much the same in the town ahead…". 

A British example of demographics are with these two sites I’ve linked below. Surely there is something similar in New Zealand? At the very least, the points made here in these sites must be useful in helping you build up your best choices. In all, when buying a house and land it is the heart and a feeling that make your choice; not this time though, you have to use your head. I think maybe your issue is that "You Know What You Don’t Want But You Don’t Know What You Do Want" :-

Acorn demographics

http://www.caci.co.uk/acorn/acornmap.asp

 Up My Street

http://www.upmystreet.com/local/my-neighbours/neighbourhood-profile/l/le2+9tu.html

My partner and I bought a farm in Hungary back in October last year. We had the added bonus of knowing many of the people here already, but there is an underlaying personality that eminates from people in this village that if you’ve not lived-breathed-ached-and died here for 20 years, you’re only fit for avoiding conversation until such time has past, with deft use of crossing the street and stairing at their feet until they’re away. Fortunately, Andrea’s family are well respected here and I feel confident as long as I work hard and keep passive.

We’re growing a variety of crop rather than chemical induced mono-crop which is the presently established ideal here, for which as you know, doesn’t have much of a future and is three times the expense it was just four years ago here. We’ve raised some eyebrows but mainly we’re getting positive comment when we explain ourselves. One thing is for certain, I’m keeping my knowledge of the issues of the Crash Course completely to myself. When the shit hits the fan, I’ll be able to help, but I’m not going to trip myself up here early by becoming an outcast?

Most importantly, don’t let your landlord make your next choices rushed!! He is affecting your ability to think straight and, in the long run could cost you your marriage and future happiness, plus a shit load of money thrown down a hole in the ground if you don’t make clear decisions now. In other words, don’t you dare go rush out and buy a plot inside a month from now and expect it to tick all of the very necessary boxes, because you’ll be sacrificing way way too much. Everything from building up the soil to getting the house off-grid and liveable day-to-day takes 5 times as much in hours, work and money than you actually think it does. It’ll end up something of a vivid nightmare, which leads me to these two clips that I’m sure will again make you search Google Video for the full film… 

Waking Life – Boat Car Guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZzYNESaPWg&feature=channel_page

Waking Life – Dreamers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxAz9hHfhzE

…tough choices. Please, give yourself at least another 4 months to find a place above and beyond your landlords time limit. If it comes to storing your things and bedding down with family for a while (even in a caravan like we did!!!), it’ll work out cheaper in the long run, even if socially it’ll appear a stigma and a blot on your copy book, the value from the experience is the very essence of the journey ahead.

Alluding to that ‘Hole In The Ground’ earlier (sorryWink)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5HVPKO9Aow

…one thing is certain, its going to be a hard transition from suburban lifestyle to farm life and, the way I’d get a full-on view of that would be to go give your services to a farmer for free just to see what this life physically entails. The harvesting season will most surely be on its way in your country soon and the experience will uncover any doubts you may have.

A great alternative has to be a Transition Town, where the work, responsibility, cost, security and sanity are all shared. One man who is recognised globally can only be Rob Hopkins, in an excellent interview here  :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQF09NG00V8&feature=channel_page

…alternatively, my money is on a suburban dwelling like this one by the wonderful Jules Dervaes :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCPEBM5ol0Q&feature=related

…In my mind, it is all about perspective?

Over to you…

Take Care,

Paul

 

  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 12:50am

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Thank you so so much for taking the trouble to go in to such detail with your detailed response to my situation.  I am going to re read and re read it and work through all the videos too.  Thanks again it is very kind of you to take that time and effort.

  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 06:58am

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Amanda, If you are looking for land, the most important thing to research is the availability of water.

  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 04:26pm

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Amanda,

you’re welcome.

If there is anything from what I’ve written that needs clarification, don’t hesitate in posting here…

Best Of Luck With Your Choices,

Paul

  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 04:40pm

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Plantguy,

I wrote and you never responded?

I am more than interested in getting to the marrow of what you’re trying to figure out with your future and hope you’ll maybe add more to this thread…

Take Care,

Paul

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