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  • Tue, May 24, 2016 - 12:16am

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    Recommend Mother Jones Article: The Lie Factory

The Lie Factory

A Mother Jones Special Investigation (2004): The inside story of how the Bush administration pushed disinformation and bogus intelligence and led the nation to war.

Very well done and absolutely infuriating. 

A group of Neoconservatives dedicated to redrawing the map of the middle east around Israel's far-right-Zionist vision of greater power, fabricated "evidence" and lied to the American people to take the USA to war.

This is a story of how the Neocons infiltrated the pentagon's Office of Special Plans, filling it with their own people, and purged the regular analysts.  Their assessments were completely contrary to those of the CIA and intelligence professionals, yet these assessments made it into President Bush's speeches on Iraq.

I would very much like to ask these Neocons: 

1.  What did you think the American people would think about Israel as they begin to discover the scope and brazenness of these lies? 

2.  How would you explain this lying to a family who lost a soldier in Iraq?

3.  Don't you know that when trust is breached RAGE results?

 

  • Wed, May 25, 2016 - 06:38pm

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    The Dual Deception of the rightwing-Zionists

Four introductory points:

1.  All war is based on deception.  

            -Sun Tzu

2.  Four successful deceptions:

A.  the false flag:  Country A convinces Country B that it has been attacked by Country C.  Countries B and C go to war and destroy each other.  Country A did not fight in the war but is the victor.  Sun Tzu is proud.

B.  the ambush.  Country B does not know that it is at war.  Country A sets up a superior tactical position during apparent peace-time.  When the first shots are fired, the outcome is already assured as Country A has already established overwhelming superiority.

C.  the Trojan Horse.  Country A sends its soldiers covertly into Country B during peace-time.  When war starts, Country B can operate the machinery of Country A from the inside.

D.  the conspiracy nut.  Any person who detects a pattern of false flag, ambush or Trojan Horse  is psychiatrically defective.

 

3.  The subset / superset error:  

When we say “the American’s are drone assassinating civilians all over the world” we have to understand that MOST Americans are NOT assassinating anyone anywhere.  A degree of cognitive sophistication is required to not blur the small subset of Americans who DO assassinate with the superset of all Americans.

A closely related error is to say that opposing drone assassinations is “anti-American.”  This error only occurs when the subset / superset distinction is lost.

So watch for the distinction in what follows:  can you tell the difference between Israeli’s who instituted the Dual Deception Bollyn describes below and “all Israelis?”  (If you cannot, then this discussion will seem anti-Semitic.)

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Christopher Bollyn posts a very short but well written piece summarizing his view of how this has worked.  I include it here as I believe that this is my current best understanding of the genesis of the GWOT and 9/11.

The Dual-Deception of 9/11 and the War on Terror

May 23, 2016

The false-flag terror attacks of 9/11 and the fraudulent War on Terror are two parts of an Israeli dual-deception. The political crisis that Americans face in this election year is how do we extract our nation from this criminal [rightwing-]Zionist fraud before it destroys our republic?

The global War on Terror is an Israeli strategem that has been pushed by Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu since the late 1970s. The idea of waging a global War on Terror was first promoted at the Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism in July 1979 at the Netanyahu Institute in Israel.

The fraudulent War on Terror policy was foisted on the United States by a cabal of [rightwing-]Zionist Neo-Con insiders who worked closely with Israel's military and political leaders.

Realizing that 9/11 and the War on Terror are the two sides of an Israeli dual-deception enables us to understand the nature of this massive fraud and empowers us to stand up and demand that it end  – and that its perpetrators be brought to justice.

 

 

  • Fri, Jun 10, 2016 - 06:39am

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    The USS Liberty

34 American Sailors Dead, 173 Injured

[quote=Military.com]Nearly a half century after the USS Liberty — a lightly armed American spy ship — was almost sunk by Israeli air and sea forces during the Six Day War, survivors say the U.S. still prefers to avoid dealing with what happened and identifying who attacked the ship.

Strafed by machine-gun fire, hit by napalm and torpedoed over the course of the 75-minute attack, the Liberty has one of the most highly decorated crews in American naval history. Out of that single action came one Medal of Honor, two Navy Crosses, a dozen Silver Stars, 20 Bronze Stars for valor, nine Navy Commendation Medals, more than 200 Purple Hearts and a Presidential Unit Citation.

But even when the ship is remembered, as it was last month with a rededication of carillon bells at Naval Station Norfolk's chapel, an important part of Liberty's story is avoided: It was attacked by Israel. "It's probably political," said Terry McFarland, a Liberty survivor who organized a memorial service held Wednesday at Arlington National Cemetery.

"But we still try to make Americans aware of what happened," he added, "for the memory of our shipmates and … and to get a complete and full investigation of all the facts" about the attack.
Transcripts of radio communications between Israeli pilots and their controllers indicate the attackers identified the ship as American yet continued the assault. But U.S. and Israeli officials still claim it was a case of mistaken identity.

Members of the Liberty Veterans Association organize a service annually at Arlington, where six of their dead are buried in a group grave and others, including ship's skipper Capt. William McGonagle, are interred in separate plots. The U.S. Navy routinely provides a bugler to play Taps for the occasion. Survivors say the sea service offers little else.

Citing the military's failure to identify Israel as the attacker on dozens of awards citations and the Arlington group headstone, to claiming the incident was an "accident" — an excuse that even the State Department has never officially accepted, Liberty survivors they feel like they've been slighted for almost five decades. "They don't want to talk about it, they don't want to listen to us, they don't want to do anything," Joseph Meadors, a signalman aboard Liberty during the attack, told Military.com. "They don't want to acknowledge our existence."

The story of the Norfolk chapel Carillon bells in the Navy news publication "The Flagship" is only the latest example of that unwillingness to confront history, they say. Josie Toth Linen, whose brother Stephen was killed in action on Liberty, called the omission of Israel in the account of the incident "typical." She said, "We've been treated this way since 1967."

Base spokeswoman Kelly Wirfel concedes the omission was deliberate, but said that's because who attacked Liberty was not germane to the story. "From my point of view, as the base public affairs officer, and the person who edited the story, the purpose of the ceremony was to rededicate the bells. It has nothing to do with the controversy … We wrote the story, someone on my staff, and I'm very proud of the job that [she] did with the story."

Retired Lt. Cmdr. Jim Smith, a Liberty survivor who spoke at the service, doesn't recall either of the other speakers — Command Chaplain Diane Lantz and NSN Commander Capt. Doug Beaver — mentioning Israel. "I don't believe that the plaque even says that," Smith said, referring to the dedication tablet placed in the chapel.

In weeks leading up to the event, he said he spoke to Lantz and asked her if she was meeting any resistance to dedicating the Carillon to the Liberty. "I told her there are people out there who don't want us broadcasting that it was Israelis who attacked the ship," he said. But she assured him she was not hearing any opposition, he said.

Neither Lantz nor Beaver responded to Military.com's request for comment.

From the start, the attack on Liberty was a political controversy, with a succession of presidents, lawmakers and military leaders showing little or no willingness to fully investigate it. The few lawmakers who pressed for an investigation of the incident have often been dismissed as conspiracy theorists and even anti-Semites.

Just days after the attack, even before a brief Naval Court of Inquiry finished a limited investigation into the case, the Navy was calling it an accident in official telegrams sent to the families of the dead.
The Court limited its inquiry into whether Liberty was where she was supposed to be and how the crew responded to the crisis, though Adm. John S. McCain, commander of U.S. Naval Forces in Europe, concluded the attack was accidental.

The Medal of Honor awarded to Liberty's skipper, Capt. William McGonagle, was presented in a private ceremony at the Washington Navy Yard by Navy Secretary Paul Ignatius — not at the White House by President Johnson. (At the time of the presentation, wrote James Scott, author of "The Attack on The Liberty," Johnson was in the East Room overseeing the graduation of the Capitol Page School.)
In addition, McGonagle's Medal of Honor citation did not identify Israel as the aggressor — an omission repeated on all but one of the many award citations (and that, Meadors believes, likely got through by mistake). The attacker was also omitted on a group headstone at Arlington National Cemetery where six of the sailors are buried.

Instead, the citations and the headstone said only that the attack and the deaths occurred "in the Eastern Mediterranean." It was only after sustained pressure from survivors and supporters that the stone was changed to include "Killed USS Liberty." But it doesn't mention Israel.

And while a Pentagon wall display does reference the incident, it suggests Israel mistakenly attacked the ship — despite the radio chatter that indicated otherwise. For example, the display marking events in military intelligence history references the Liberty using a reproduced headline from The New York Times of June 9, 1967 — before the court of inquiry had even convened — declaring "Israel, in error, attacks Navy ship."

Meanwhile, the Navy denies that it dropped Liberty as the planned name of the second Littoral Combat Ship to avoid the controversy. But as previously reported by Military.com, the name appeared high on a list of recommended names to the Navy secretary and the official Naval Vessels Register identified LCS-2 as Liberty before it was changed.

Philip Giraldi, a former CIA case officer and Army intelligence officer who now writes for The American Conservative and other publications, was at the Arlington ceremony on Wednesday, where he met with survivors and their families. "This was a deliberate attack" by Israel, he said. "But our country has done everything it could to make it appear it was an accident."

McLaren said he's already looking ahead to next year's anniversary of the attack — the 50th — when survivors, family and supporters plan to rally at Norfolk, which was Liberty's home port. "The [Liberty Veterans] Association will continue to talk about the Liberty in the coming years, until none of us are around anymore," he said, "and then hopefully our families will continue on."[/quote]

 

  • Fri, Jun 17, 2016 - 01:39pm

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    A gordian knot

  • Wed, Jul 20, 2016 - 06:08am

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  • Wed, Jul 20, 2016 - 06:14am

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    Jowenkow’ed? (Hiroshi Hasegawa)

Odigo Says Workers Were Warned of Attack (Haaretz)

[quote]"Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI.

"I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya.

As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application."[/quote]
 
 
[quote]Hiroshi Hasegawa, Chief Commentator and political news analyst at NHK (the only public TV channel in Japan) revealed that Israeli nationals were warned a few hours before 9/11 by a text message sent in Hebrew through a telecommunication company based in Israel called Odigo. This was reported by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. Using the “people-search” function, the users of the Odigo Messenger could send anonymous messages anywhere in the world to other users, who they could find based on demographics or location. The message was sent on the early morning of September 11, 2001. The channel announced the “suicide” of the journalist on October 17, 2001. He actually died on October 15. The channel never revealed the name of the person who found him. He was preparing his next show and had no reason to kill himself. Of course, it terrorized the other journalists.[/quote]
 
 
[quote]An employee of NHK who served as a commentator on the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States was found dead Monday in Tokyo after an apparent fall from a building, NHK said Wednesday. Hiroshi Hasegawa, 55, was found on the ground near the NHK broadcasting center in Tokyo’s Shibuya Ward on Monday morning and was pronounced dead soon after, according to the national public television network. Police believe he fell to his death and are conducting an investigation, NHK said. Hasegawa joined NHK in 1971 and became a commentator in 1997 after working in the network’s political affairs section and serving as manager of its Bangkok bureau. He had served as a senior commentator since 1998 and appeared Oct. 10 on a special program on the terrorist attacks, according to NHK.[/quote]
 
 
[quote]On October 17, 2001, there appeared a small article on Asahi Shimbun, one of the major Japanese newspapers, reporting a death of an NHK chief commentator, Hiroshi Hasegawa (55). He was allegedly discovered dead near the building of NHK Broadcasting Center. NHK is an equivalent of BBC in Japan.   He was a specialist of international terrorism and was talking about 9/11 events in the NHK special program aired just a week before, on Oct. 10, 2001 pointing out the fact he had discovered that there were no Jews in the victims of WTC disaster. He told in the program that most of the Jewish employees working in WTC were curiously absent on the very morning of 9/11.This information is now shared quite widely now but he was the one who first pointed out the fact to the public on TV.[/quote]
  • Tue, Jul 26, 2016 - 11:53pm

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    Recent attacks in Europe.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/07/25/476793/US-Munich-Nice-Gutjahr-Israel-McKinney

  • Thu, Jul 28, 2016 - 06:28am

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    NeoCon: The Jewish/American politics of EMPIRE THROUGH WAR

Jewish NeoCon war lobbyist back Hillary Clinton for Global War with Russia and China.



Search any of these names. Key Jewish Families and the positions they hold in the US Government including the Supreme Court.


Podhoretz

Kristols

kagan

 
The Neocons are Jewish fifth columnists whom control the American Political System in total, both left and right, and the the growing totalitarian police state is a mirror image of the ones devised by the same tactics used by the Nazi's, by subverting the laws with new laws and overthrowing the elected government with key decision making individuals in key positions.
 
The same architecture which was also used to construct the Soviet Terror State and the Nazi Terror State, and we are all staring this ugly truth right in the face right now.
 
Better wake up before you and your kids are gunned down in the street defenseless thanks to the Jewish crime cabal which is pushing to make you and your kids slaves and useful tools in their war on the rest of humanity.
 
Robert Kagan and his neocon cronies back Killary

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/25/…llary-clinton/



Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, the Obama administration's hardline assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs. Nuland, who would likely serve in a senior position in a Clinton administration, supports shipping weapons to Ukraine despite major opposition from European countries and concerns about the neo-Nazi elements those weapons would empower. 



"Sloat, the former deputy assistant secretary of state in the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs, boasted that Clinton will be “more interventionist and forward-leaning than Obama’s been” in Syria. She also applauded Clinton for doing intervention the right way, through coalitions instead of the unilateral aggression that defined the Bush years."



These people are plotting Global War. It is that simple. A child could see it. The horrible shills on this tread have to be agents of that same crime ring trying to bamboozle people by playing up the holocaust card. It won't work. The evidence is over whelming that our government is now a proxy stooge for the nation of Israel.
 
Any American that thinks for one second that the Russians are going to give up the Ukraine is a nut case who knows nothing of Russia, and anyone who thinks that the pathetic slave armies of the United States, worn out and beat up as they are now, can stand up to the Russians is smoking too much crack.
 
These people are out to kill all of us. Wake up America.
  • Tue, Aug 02, 2016 - 12:17am

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    9/11 and Micro Nukes

 

Boeings new jet motor works by producing micro nuclear explosions.

How it works.

A high energy laser fires a micro burst at a radioactive isotope causing a fusion reaction (* A thermonuclear explosion)

Hydrogen and Helium are the exhaust byproducts exiting the exhaust under high pressure producing thrust. At the same time the inside walls of the thrust chamber, which are coated with Uranium 238 react with the impacting high energy neutrons produced by the thermonuclear explosion to react with the Uranium 238 coating to create intense heat. These are the fundamental propulsion forces to a jet motor. 

This then proves that there is no need for a critical mass radioactive isotopes in order for a nuclear detonation to take place. It further shows that a mass coated with a radioactive isotope such as Uraium 238 will create intense heat when bombarded with a directed beam of neutrons. In other words a particle beam.

Draw your own conclusion. The answers are now obvious to all but the willingly blind.

US Patent 9,068,562 B1, a method for the detonation of radioactive isotopes via high energy laser.

http://lurch2.blogspot.com/2015/07/boeing-just-patented-jet-engine-powered.html

 

  • Sat, Aug 13, 2016 - 02:45pm

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    CHS shines a ray of hope; deep state faction vs. Neocons?

If you are concerned about the Neocon agenda, you will be interested in this piece by CHS yesterday;

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogaug16/long-game8-16.html

….In my recent essay Could the Deep State Be Sabotaging Hillary? I wrote:

"An increasingly powerful sector of the Deep State views the neo-con agenda as a disaster for American interests, and is far more focused on the Long Game of energy, food security, economic and military innovation and a productive response to climate change."

This runs counter to the conventional view that the U.S. Deep State is rabidly attached to the neoconservative liberal hegemony model of geopolitical hard power. If you want some evidence for this shift, please read this essay from the journal of the Deep State, Foreign Affairs; if you read this carefully, you will find a devastating critique of the neo-con strategy and an alternative strategy based on autarky, a topic we'll discuss in a moment.

The Case for Offshore Balancing: A Superior U.S. Grand Strategy (registration required)

What is the Deep State? Former congressional staff member Mike Lofgren described the Deep State thusly:

"I use the term to mean a hybrid association of elements of government and parts of top-level finance and industry that is effectively able to govern the United States without reference to the consent of the governed as expressed through the formal political process."……

….In effect, globalization guarantees insecurity, and so further attempts to consolidate one-world power are doomed to fail, regardless of the resources thrown at the effort.

The winning Long Game is strengthening autarky (self-sufficiency) and the ability to export food, energy and decentralized cultural models to friends/allies, while nurturing the essential social elements of self-sufficiency: innovation across the entire spectrum, not just in technology per se; social mobility; flexible, adaptive economic and social structures (i.e. decentralized, networked, opt-in), and a productive response to climate change…..

 

   

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