Guide to Forum Spies

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  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 08:12am

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    Friedrichs_teeth

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    Guide to Forum Spies

Yes, but this place is new on the radar of the controllers. They generally add a new account. Try to subvert. Add 10 more accounts. Use the other accounts to give the first account more gravitas. Rinse. Repeat.

They don’t need to invest years or marry us. Online forums can be corrupted quite cheaply.

  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 09:12am   (Reply to #11)

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    Canuck21

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“Yes, but this place is new on the radar of the controllers.”

My apologies for challenging you again but you have zero way of knowing that.

  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 09:43am

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    Dontknownothin

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Canuck21,

Agree fully with this sentiment. I’d say PP is not new to the intel community though it may be to the everyday internet trolls. I’ve seen some pretty incendiary comments by long term users with few previous comments (remember the Evie comment?).

Even the number of CCP lurkers behind the paywall seems to be fairly high at times. The thing to think about is that the cost of admission to this site is not really a barrier to entry for any agency, but is at least high enough for most generic brand internet trolls. So I’d say there’s more to be concerned about BEHIND the paywall than the public forum.

Were it not for published papers and active and diverse comments from various posters it would be difficult to know who to trust, but most of the content and sentiment seems to be driven by earnest contribution and the danger sense is high enough that motive is constantly questioned by those genuine accounts.

I don’t think we’re immune to the cointelpro operation but we are a lot more vigilant against it than other similar websites I think.

That being said, it could turn out that any number of those trusted voices were from competing agencies trying to sow discontentment and foment revolution or some other form of entrapment among the rest of us. But even that may result in some embarassment…

  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 10:18am   (Reply to #2)

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    Stph

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    Re Guide to Forum Spies. (Chris M??)

I think it would be REALLY wise, in terms of keeping new members, for The Team to (1) Assure the membership that SOMETHING is going to be done to substantially improve the software /structure of the forum to much better support (2) Keep people up to date on progress.  In particular, this forum DESPERATELY needs some/all of the following:

(1) tree structure of messages (like reddit)

(2) sticky/permanent threads (so, for example, COVID has a covid thread; homesteading/farming has a homesteading thread, etc.)

(3) Tags and Votes and Follows, people can better focus on what they want to read. (topics; most popular comments; favorite authors)

(4) General Searching

IF SOMETHING IS NOT DONE, I predict a large percentage of new members are going to drift away.  In particular, I expect *I* will drift away – first as a paid member and, gradually, as a commenter at all.   I think we all agree, time is now precious.  This forum is WASTING huge amounts of time — not because the content isn’t excellent, but because excellent content which can not be found, due to inappropriate software, might as well not exist.

  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 10:29am

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My post was prompted by James Corbett’s latest editorial:

https://www.minds.com/CorbettReport/blog/sunstein-won-cognitive-infiltration-of-the-alternative-media-1283971671316762628

It serves mostly as a warning to not go too deep down the path of ‘everyone who disagrees is an infiltrator’, as it is counterproductive thinking.

Probably the biggest consequence that I see here sometimes are long, well thought out rebuttals (to questions or comments that mostly either don’t make sense or are a rehash of MSM points that have already mostly been discussed in the forum), that obviously take alot of time to write, potentially taking time away from writing or thinking about something else.  The rebuttals do though serve as good references in many cases so even then I can see the value of ‘wasting time writing a response’.

Lastly, and I’m not accusing anyone of anything, more trying to make a joke, but it is interesting that posts 3&4 (the ones that derailed the original topic), the users have the same sign up date (i.e. team anyone?, lol).

All that said I personally don’t worry about this all too much.  For myself, I find it fairly easy to spot most of the tactics outlined in the article.  More importantly, there are some stout intellectual guard dogs that roam around and protect this territory pretty well imho.

  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 11:01am   (Reply to #13)

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    Canuck21

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Dontknownothing, your TV link made me laugh, thanks.

But you do not know that any lurkers here are specifically CCP, they could be from anywhere. I am actually surprised that your own thoughts went in that direction.

  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 11:04am   (Reply to #2)

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2-3 yes, 1 please not!

  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 12:03pm   (Reply to #2)

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    AndrewOregon

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    Better platform software suggestion

Not to highjack post, but responding to

 Stph

Here is a very good version of what does what we all want, and I think is just “off the shelf.”

https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/

An ability to quickly follow threads, all threads by title, track responses to posts we’ve made so we can stay in the conversation, use tags so that content is searchable, have basic categories of posts which guide browsing to subject matter, and a good searchable quality.

It also is directly linked to its own “Wiki” which is permanent, curated reference material, accessed on a tab upper left. The two link easily back and forth.

This version is outdated, so the host is undergoing a big project to redo/update, but I am sure there is a similar product out there they’re working to go into.

You don’t see all the features unless you sign up, which like PP is free.

Heads-up web folks here at PP!!

Thanks for taking this from a non-paying member who would be more interested to pay if we had a good interface here.

 

  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 12:26pm

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    Dontknownothin

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    Reply To: Guide to Forum Spies

I just say CCP because they are typically the easiest to spot, LOL. As in, any criticism of the regime elicits a strong and unwarranted rebuttal illuminating everyone of their virtues. But the same thing happens for all organizations silently watching the dark corners of intellectual discourse… there’s many ways to bait a rat.

Update: I should have ended with “observe” and then linked the part 1 of the afghanistan essay.

So how do we identify them?

I seem to be at a lot of targeted sites and new members were scrutinized by all but that might not work here?

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