Ford HCQ study now that Dr Fauchi has dismissed it

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  • Sat, Aug 01, 2020 - 09:45am

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    jturbo68

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    Ford HCQ study now that Dr Fauchi has dismissed it

Id like to hear thoughts about the Ford HCQ study, now that Dr Fauchi has dismissed it because it was only a retrospective study and not double blind placebo controlled  and didnt account for the use of steroids in the HCQ population.

I recall Chris was generally positive about the study in early July, but noted that it was not a double blind study, didnt include zinc and still wasnt particularly early, as the patients were only given HCQ once they showed up at the hospital.

I think that maybe the study tried to account for the steroid use, but dont understand the details or significance of this.

This is an important topic as this study is probably the ‘best’ study that we have at the moment, while waiting for some real blinded trials.

 

  • Sat, Aug 01, 2020 - 11:18am

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    nordicjack

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    Ford HCQ study now that Dr Fauchi has dismissed it

Simple money grab.   Its been killed.  done and done.

  • Sat, Aug 01, 2020 - 08:01pm

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    Island girl

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    Ford HCQ study now that Dr Fauchi has dismissed it

Thats study was analysed on this site early on but in another forum. Will try to find the post and give the link here.

The potential confounding factor of steroid use was recognized and addressed statistically, and the decrease in mortality was significant.  Dr. Fauci failed to mention this and that is deception by omission.

All that said, the arguments over type of study are a digression. The real issue is that COVID is a multi-phasic disease, and the mechanism of action of the triple cocktail of Zn/AZT/HCQ is pertinent to the early phase. .The study designs being debated are late-phase (hospitalized patients). Don’t you want a simple, inexpensive 5-day treatment that will keep you out of the hospital in the first place?

It has been claimed that 200 mg HCQ twice a week and 50 mg daily Zinc (with micro amounts of copper) is a prophylactic. I have not seen the data so I rfeserve judgement. But if that were true, wouldn’t you rather a cheap, effective prophylactic that can help short circuit the spread and help normalize life? After all, people with lupus take higher daily doses for years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Sat, Aug 01, 2020 - 09:16pm

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    Ford HCQ study now that Dr Fauchi has dismissed it

We had the couple that had Covid-19 over for a cook-out today.  The husband got it first and was taken the hospital.  His wife had just started feeling sick so was not taken to the hospital.  He received HCQ during his stay following correct dosage.  His wife was not taken to the hospital so did not receive HCQ.  The husband recovered much more quickly.  She went through a hellish month.  The husband did have hallucinations during his treatment with HCQ and stopped taking it.  Once he learned that HCQ was causing the hallucinations, he could control them.

So American doctors are definitely treating patients with HCQ on an emergency basis.  Since we learned about it from France and other foreign countries, I guess it has to be kept a big secret.

  • Thu, Aug 06, 2020 - 10:00am

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    Ford HCQ study now that Dr Fauchi has dismissed it

Ya, as much as I like Chris, he didn’t mention about the use of steroids on that study at all. I was a little surprised, since he’s usually pretty objective and analytical.

  • Thu, Aug 06, 2020 - 10:55am

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    Kathy

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    Ford HCQ study now that Dr Fauchi has dismissed it

Some consistency would be nice.  If the FDA needs a double blind controlled study, they should ban the use of all drugs that don’t have one for an illness.  We need to stop the dispensing of amoxicillin for Strep, SSRIs for all sorts of things and birth control pill for mensural cramps.

The piece I find so confounding in all of this is the lack of my control over my health.  Why does a politician get to stand in between me and my doctor?

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