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  • Wed, Sep 02, 2009 - 06:58pm

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    Re: Forced vaccinations …

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If not this time, maybe the next. 

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You read my thoughts, Ben . . . This one may go off without a hitch, so that we’ll all see how safe the vaccines are, and so that the vaccine detractors will be discredited and derided, and consequently, we’ll be falsely reassured . . . . so that when the “real” threat comes** . . . . not the dreaded sniffles and cough kind, we’ll happily beg for the vaccine.

 

**  Real threat:  A pandemic that actually makes a lot of people seriously ill, and kills a percentage of the population large enough that it is not measured in negative exponents.

  • Wed, Sep 02, 2009 - 07:11pm

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    Vaccines and Social Engineering

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[quote=RetiredBen]

If not this time, maybe the next. 

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You read my thoughts, Ben . . . This one may go off without a hitch, so that we’ll all see how safe the vaccines are, and so that the vaccine detractors will be discredited and derided, and consequently, we’ll be falsely reassured . . . . so that when the “real” threat comes** . . . . not the dreaded sniffles and cough kind, we’ll happily beg for the vaccine.

 

**  Real threat:  A pandemic that actually makes a lot of people seriously ill, and kills a percentage of the population large enough that it is not measured in negative exponents.

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Or perhaps TPTB have, shall we say, “positioned themselves” to be our “saviors” in the event of a viral epidemic of dubious origin . . . . . “All the better to control you with, my dear . . . . . “

  • Wed, Sep 02, 2009 - 07:23pm

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    Re: Forced vaccinations …

C1oudFIRE said:

Consider the scenario in which one must choose between obeying the law, and taking one’s trusting, loving child, against their will (for no child likes injections), to have an untested substance injected into their bodies . . . a substance that we have reason to suspect may harm them, and possibly, their children, and their children’s children? . . . . Do we have a responsibility, being wiser than our children, and charged with their protection, to carry out that sacred duty to the best of our ability and knowledge?  Do we have the right, or indeed, the duty, to protect our children from the occasional misguided or even malevolent powers that arise?  Or is it just our job to bear the expense and inconvenience of childrearing, and to leave the important decisions to others who have grander plans than just hoping for our children’s health, happiness and prosperity?

You’ve hit on something I think about often, how can I save my family from being injected with something that may harm them permanently.  From my vantage point, if anyone is breaking the law – it is our government. 

Our government has gone further than crimes against the constitution – they have committed crimes against humanity.  We have killed over 1,300,000 Iraqis because we thought they had WMDs.  They didn’t.  How many have we tortured and illegally detained?

Our government stands idly by as the international banking cartel takes every penny we have and no one seems to care that our children and grandchildren are being enslaved in debt.  It should be clear to all that our government no longer functions in our best interests. 

Larry

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C1oudFIRE said:

Consider the scenario in which one must choose between obeying the law, and taking one’s trusting, loving child, against their will (for no child likes injections), to have an untested substance injected into their bodies . . . a substance that we have reason to suspect may harm them, and possibly, their children, and their children’s children? . . . . Do we have a responsibility, being wiser than our children, and charged with their protection, to carry out that sacred duty to the best of our ability and knowledge?  Do we have the right, or indeed, the duty, to protect our children from the occasional misguided or even malevolent powers that arise?  Or is it just our job to bear the expense and inconvenience of childrearing, and to leave the important decisions to others who have grander plans than just hoping for our children’s health, happiness and prosperity?

You’ve hit on something I think about often, how can I save my family from being injected with something that may harm them permanently.  From my vantage point, if anyone is breaking the law – it is our government. 

Our government has gone further than crimes against the constitution – they have committed crimes against humanity.  We have killed over 1,300,000 Iraqis because we thought they had WMDs.  They didn’t.  How many have we tortured and illegally detained?

Our government stands idly by as the international banking cartel takes every penny we have and no one seems to care that our children and grandchildren are being enslaved in debt.  It should be clear to all that our government no longer functions in our best interests. 

Larry

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I happen to agree with every word you say, Larry, but let’s [please] be careful not to derail the subject of this thread, or cross the [invisible, arbitrary] line that will get this swept into the quarantine compound . . . . Surprised. . . . . . . Sealedmmmphh!

 

  • Wed, Sep 02, 2009 - 09:22pm

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    Re: Forced vaccinations …

Into the Controversial Topics bin with us . . . I would be astounded, in a world that made sense.

  • Wed, Sep 02, 2009 - 10:51pm

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    Re: Forced vaccinations …

*sigh* I had a nice post all typed out and I thought it had posted. I guess it got swept up, too. Anyway, as best as I remember it…

Here is a link that might interest you. http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2009/08/17/fifteen-things-you-can-do-if-you-are-forced-to-take-a-flu-shot/

Other thoughts I’ve had about forced vaccinations:

On children: Unless you plan on leaving the country (and possibly even then) you might have to choose between allowing them to be vaccinated or losing your children.

What about those who’ve already had the flu? My dh just got over it and I’m almost there. I never went to the doctor–didn’t see the point. It was definitely the flu and H1N1 is the only one circulating right now. They’re not even culturing to make sure it’s the swine flu now, anyway. But sooo many people have already had it. What good is the vaccine if you’ve already had the virus?!

I’ve heard about shortages. How can they force vaccinate if there isn’t enough vaccinations to go around? Perhaps it’s a ploy to get as many people to take it as soon as possible (otherwise, you know, they might run out!)

There is a lot of people unhappy with the government right now, and vaccinations in general is a hot-button issue. I guess it’s possible they really don’t care (or are oblivious to this fact), but they’re going to make people even more angry if they do this. So why do it?

Forced vaccinations doesn’t really make sense to me. It seems more like a threat to me. Maybe they’re not really planning this right now, but using this opportunity to prepare for another way to sieze freedoms.

  • Wed, Sep 02, 2009 - 11:21pm

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    Re: Forced vaccinations …

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*sigh* I had a nice post all typed out and I thought it had posted. I guess it got swept up, too. Anyway, as best as I remember it…

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Yeah, that’s part of the “collateral damage” of threads being moved without notice.

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On children: Unless you plan on leaving the country (and possibly even then) you might have to choose between allowing them to be vaccinated or losing your children.

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That’s a good point, and a good example of how control is achieved in a stepwise fashion . . . . First, laws and agencies that provide for children to be removed from the home for “abuse”.  Then, decades later, the laws that characterize nonvaccination as “abuse” are passed.  Can you feel the noose tightening yet?  How long will it be before our children are taken from us, as they are delivered, in the same way that calves are separated from their mothers . . . For their protection, of course. . . . When will we say “No more!”?

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What about those who’ve already had the flu? My dh just got over it and I’m almost there. I never went to the doctor–didn’t see the point. It was definitely the flu and H1N1 is the only one circulating right now. They’re not even culturing to make sure it’s the swine flu now, anyway. But sooo many people have already had it. What good is the vaccine if you’ve already had the virus?!

I’ve heard about shortages. How can they force vaccinate if there isn’t enough vaccinations to go around? Perhaps it’s a ploy to get as many people to take it as soon as possible (otherwise, you know, they might run out!)

There is a lot of people unhappy with the government right now, and vaccinations in general is a hot-button issue. I guess it’s possible they really don’t care (or are oblivious to this fact), but they’re going to make people even more angry if they do this. So why do it?

Forced vaccinations doesn’t really make sense to me. It seems more like a threat to me. Maybe they’re not really planning this right now, but using this opportunity to prepare for another way to sieze freedoms.

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Great analysis, Aura.  All of these observations are good evidence for this “pandemic” only being used as a false flag to “cover” for heinous legislation.

  • Thu, Sep 03, 2009 - 02:02am

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Have you noticed the things we talk about now, relative to our government, that would have been called something like conspiracy theories just 10 years ago.  Who would have believed it then?  

Wonder how many will look back 10 years from now, and say “I just couldn’t believe things were getting so bad, back in 2009?

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Have you noticed the things we talk about now, relative to our government, that would have been called something like conspiracy theories just 10 years ago.  Who would have believed it then?  

Wonder how many will look back 10 years from now, and say “I just couldn’t believe things were getting so bad, back in 2009?

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Hiya Ben;

Actually, I’ve noticed a shift toward acceptance, here on CM, over the past 9 months.  Just a few months ago, just the idea that we should be wary of vaccines was considered highly controversial . . . There were quite a few members who were buying the whole pandemic thing, hook, line and sinker . . . I guess after observing the ongoing criminal governmental hanky panky, some minds have been opened to the possibility that our government is peopled by sociopaths . . . .

  • Wed, Sep 16, 2009 - 06:58am

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    Re: Forced vaccinations …

Many important points have been raised.  I would also encourage you to have a look at the video on this site….  brainguardmd.com  

This extremely qualified MD and Phd has done research that suggests vaccinations often cause mini-strokes that result in cumulative neurological damage.  Scary stuff!

 

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