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  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 04:06am

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rowmat! The guitarist is awesome. Thanls for posting that.

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No worries but which one are you referring to?

I’ve posted quite a few different ones on this thead.

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 04:39am

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    Re: Monte Montgomery

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rowmat, if you like acoustic guitar, I’d recommend checking out Monte Montgomery of Austin, TX.  He won the SXSW Festival Best Acoustic Guitar Player for seven years in a row, and was named one of Guitar Player Magazine’s Top 50 All-Time Guitarists.  He prefers to play around Texas rather than touring, but those who have seen him live are impressed.

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Okay he can play a guitar, it’s just that his playing style doesn’t do anything for me at all… sorry.

There’s a lot of exceptional players out there.

Some of the better ones are the least well known.

I don’t think the guy in the following clip has won any SXSW Festival Acoustic Guitar awards.

He probably has never even been to the SXSW as he’s an Aussie.

To be frank I wouldn’t buy his albums, but he can rip out some explosive blues riffs as good as anyone.

Lloyd Spiegel: "I’ve never considered myself a guitar player…. and still don’t."

I reckon he could show Monte a thing or two about playing blues guitar, awards or no awards. ;>)

Lloyd ("I’m not a guitarist") Spiegel – Instore promotion for Cole Clark guitars (sound is thin due to videocam mic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHWLA7pSUI8&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mebBBuHggqs&fmt=18

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 06:32pm

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rowmat, if you like acoustic guitar, I’d recommend checking out Monte Montgomery of Austin, TX.  He won the SXSW Festival Best Acoustic Guitar Player for seven years in a row, and was named one of Guitar Player Magazine’s Top 50 All-Time Guitarists.  He prefers to play around Texas rather than touring, but those who have seen him live are impressed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-twMy33FRbU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31QQ1gNpAaY

 

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Certainly, music is a pretty subjective thing, but we’re such a naturally contentious and opinionated bunch, that won’t stop us from arguing about it! So I disagree with rowmat. Your guitarist, Monte Montgomery is great. He generates a fat pocket (groove), and he’s got a great feel. He’s a pleasure to listen to. 

I’m wondering if rowmat listened to both videos. In the first one, Montgomery uses an unconventional tuning called D-tuning in which the open tuning of the guitar is tuned to a D chord – D-A-D-F#-A-D. And actually, like a lot of blues guitarists – Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn – he also tunes down a 1/2 step, so he’s really in Db. (some guitarists like this, because it makes the guitar a little darker, and it gives them a little more leeway, bending strings) But it is the D-tuning which necessarily completely changes the guitarist’s approach. And so I’m wondering if that’s why rowmat may have been less than thrilled.

In the 2nd video, Montgomery uses conventional tuning for his rendition of Little Wing. You better be good if you’re going to cover a Jimi Hendrix tune! – also famously covered by Stevie Ray. In my opinion, Montgomery delivers, big time. (Paul, did you see this?)

But I’ve certainly got no complaints about any of rowmat’s videos.  They’re all all great. Lloyd Spiegel is a monster! But it’s hard to compare him to Montgomery. He’s in a clinic setting where the idea is to pull out your bag of tricks and wow all the musicians (mostly other guitar players) while Montgomery is out there making music. It’s apples and oranges.

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Greg

PS: To any non-musicians – I apologize on behalf of all the musicians who have hijacked this thread a little bit, but I’d like to think, in return, you’re getting exposed to some pretty great and inspiring artistry you might not have encountered otherwise.

PSS: Admin, you are far and away the hippest administrator I know of! 

 

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 07:05pm

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Greg,

What can I say… At the 1.10 point I needed to change my pants!!!

…and that sit-down crowd… Look at the guy with the goatee…??? I would’ve been practicing my ‘figure-of-eight’ on the bint beside me if I was him…only maybe with a bag on her head!!!

Monte Owned The Master… :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo_WAbnKCPc&feature=related

"…to the bottom of the bottle until the worm comes out your nose…a sonnet cathedral of pure sound and vision, rave on…"

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  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 07:10pm

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 And in tribute to the hucksters who convince folks to spendspendspend:  Tom Waits —

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Txqmgr1k0Y

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 07:59pm

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    Re: Tommy Emmanuel – ‘Angelina’ (tune written for his …

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Tommy Emmanuel playing ‘Angelina’ on KBS1 (TV Channel in Korea) before his concert in Korea.

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Hey rowmat, having seen Monte perform enough times, I know he would be the last person to mention his awards.  Given that his awards have for the most part been from his peers, I think it says something.  He can’t be that bad if Tommy has great respect for him?  

I think one of the commenters on YouTube put it well: "In my opinion these are the 2 best acoustic players out there each has a very distinct style Monte uses absolutly every inch of his whole hand to mute/squeal/and wiggle, and Tommy uses his whole body to keep the rhythm…sometimes he uses the whole body of the guitar to beat out a rhythm both are extreamly uniqe players and if you havent heard them before I highly recomend it."

 

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 09:30pm

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    Re: Monte Montgomery

Seems like I’ve started a pissing competition!

Basically music is subjective… like women.

One man’s princess is another man’s ….. well you can fill in the spaces!

I didn’t say Montgomery couldn’t play, I said his style doesn’t do it for me and I’ve seen nothing to change my opinion.

The video of him playing with Tommy is too hard to hear clearly.

Many years ago I bough an album… "Passion, Grace and Fire" it featured three players which were considered amongst the best on the planet at the time… Al Di Meola, John McLaughin & Paco De Lucia.

Plenty of people raved about this album.

Could they play? Of course they could.

But I listened to it a dozen times and tried to convince myself that I SHOULD like it but I just didn’t so I gave it away.

A friend thought I was nuts, but so be it.

Sure it was technically brilliant but what emotion there was (if there was any) seemed contrived.

The main element it appeared was more a less a pissing competition between the three of them to see who could outplay one another,

For me the emotion has to come first.

The other thing Monte should do is something about his amplified acoustic guitar sound… it sucks big time.

Typical piezo pickup quack!

But hey, that’s just my opinion.

Maybe then I might find it a little more listenable.

The bottom line is if he was an electric player I wouldn’t have even have given an opinion.

I’ve been listening to many good acoustic player recently and (from what I’ve heard thus far) he wouldn’t appear anywhere on my list.

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 09:39pm

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Very true, Rowmat.

And I was speaking of Emmanuel when I complimented you on your post.

But Monte plays a mean guitar as well. I suspect that Emmanuel is mentoring him??

The reason for that lousy sound was that it was obviously done on a high scale home video recorder by someone in the audience.

But Emmanuel needs to stick to the guitar as he cannot sing….

 

 

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 09:42pm

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    Re: Monte Montgomery

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Sure it was technically brilliant but what emotion there was (if there was any) seemed contrived.

The main element it appeared was more a less a pissing competition between the three of them to see who could outplay one another,

For me the emotion has to come first.

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I completely agree, that’s why I like him so much.  But his "emotion" does not come from just guitar playing.  He’s a talented songwriter and lyricist, and his expressive wordplay makes most of today’s songs seem banal in comparison.  I haven’t seen many musicians who have a comparable level of playing ability *and* songwriting ability.  It’s really hard to do both at a high level.  But then again, that’s just my opinion.  

I like many acoustic guitarists, was just offering one with which you may not have been familiar.

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 09:48pm

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…But Emmanuel needs to stick to the guitar as he cannot sing….

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I don’t disagree with you at all on that.

For a singer he makes a great guitarist!

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