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  • Sat, Feb 21, 2009 - 07:17pm

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    Food and shelter

I understand that during the ‘great depression’ farmers destroyed crops while people starved.

Now I understand that houses are going empty while people are without shelter.

Nothing has changed.

Don

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  • Sat, Feb 21, 2009 - 09:47pm

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    Re: Food and shelter

Yes.  And both of those ridiculous realities are a result of the financial oligarchy that controls the world and its criminal debt monetary system.  

watch Money Masters:   

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936&ei=p3WgSZDNApPCqAOKx9CODQ&q=money+masters

  • Sat, Feb 21, 2009 - 10:04pm

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    Re: Food and shelter

Your preaching to the converted. Have a read of http://www.ranprieur.com/ for feb 20th post on anarchy.

Blame only leads to dispirited consensus or another big fix. There is no big fix. 

There are an awful lot of small fixes but.

Thanks for replying.

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  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 12:51am

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    Re: Food and shelter

[quote=pir8don]

I understand that during the ‘great depression’ farmers destroyed crops while people starved.

Now I understand that houses are going empty while people are without shelter.

Nothing has changed.

Don

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Don,

I hadn’t heard about the crop destruction. Why did they do that?

  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 01:32am

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    Re: Food and shelter

Just picked this up from Spark Notes; do with it as you wish

 http://www.sparknotes.com/history/american/depression/section5.rhtml

The Agricultural Adjustment Administration

Roosevelt also encouraged the creation of the Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA) to assist America’s farmers. The AAA temporarily reset prices for farm commodities, including corn, wheat, rice, milk, cotton, and livestock, and then began subsidizing farmers to reduce production. Before the depression, many debt-ridden farmers had increased crop production in order to earn more money. Ironically, this increased production had led to overproduction, which flooded the market and drove prices down, forcing farmers to plant even more the next year in a never-ending cycle. The AAA, however, began paying farmers extra to plant less or destroy their surplus crops in order to raise prices again. Congress also passed the Farm Credit Act to provide loans to farmers in danger of bankruptcy.
The AAA was quite controversial, as many critics wondered why landowners rather than sharecroppers and tenant farmers were receiving federal aid. Indeed, some landowners who received aid unjustly used it to purchase farm equipment, which had the potential to eliminate farm owners’ need for sharecroppers and tenant farmers entirely. Furthermore, many poorer and hungrier Americans were outraged that the government was paying farmers money to destroy perfectly edible crops in order to inflate prices. Despite these criticisms, however, the AAA did manage to raise prices to their pre–World War I highs.
  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 01:36am

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    Re: Food and shelter

Sam

Just did a quick search

http://www.fireandknowledge.org/archives/2008/02/01/the-great-depressions-food-destruction-program-sowell/

All the result of money and government. If you didn’t have money you couldn’t eat even though there was food. Government rules.

Has anything changed?

Don

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  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 01:42am

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    Re: Food and shelter

There are several reasons I’ve heard about that, Sam.  The one that stuck in my mind were those who claimed they would not give away their hard earned crops.  What happened in the actual neighborhoods of the crops is never mentioned when one reads about these things, it’s always talked about in sort of a global way.  "Ranchers killed their cows and farmers burned their crops."  Yeah, right. In my state, the old timers talk about how people moved to the country where the greed experienced in urban areas did not seem to exist so rampantly.  Many of those in New Orleans moved to bayou country I know because that’s where the men in my family sent their families.  My favorite aunt always told me that the only adjustment was changing your views on what was important. 

I think most of what people think will  happen when everything crashes is through urban tinted glasses, and simply not something written about in our skewed press or even the great literature of the 1930’s crowd.  "I had 18 people living in my house for Katrina" a local old timer told me yesterday.  "A lot of ’em didn’t know how to do nothing at first" she said.  "I got ’em workin’ normal, but it took me a coupla weeks" she said, offering me a glass of black cherry "cordial".

Rosemary

  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 01:46am

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Socialism. Same reason they’re trying to inflate real estate prices now.  The ag lobby is huge and laws were passed to help politically connected farmers by subsidizing them to destroy crop to keep the price inflated.  

And people starved…gotta love government. 

  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 01:49am

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[quote=Rosemary Sims]

  "I had 18 people living in my house for Katrina" a local old timer told me yesterday.  "A lot of ’em didn’t know how to do nothing at first" she said.  "I got ’em workin’ normal, but it took me a coupla weeks" she said, offering me a glass of black cherry "cordial".

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Great quote. 

Some of ’em mite take a bit longer but.

Would love to have been there to see. Reality television!

Don

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  • Sun, Feb 22, 2009 - 01:52am

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    Re: Food and shelter

"And both of those ridiculous realities are a result of the
financial oligarchy that controls the world and its criminal debt
monetary system. "

 

Strabes, don’t you think that the financial oligarchy might only control you if finances are what is important to you?  

Rosemary

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