FLCCC Prophy Protocol complete fail..

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  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 11:31am

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    Curt504

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    FLCCC Prophy Protocol complete fail..

The evening news every other day reports IVM taker is treated by the local poison control for over dose (side effects).   Frustratingly without any report from the patient what they took, how much, WHAT ELSE they also took.

Anyone have insites into these IVM adverse event reports?

I’m going to assume some are real and not fabricated by some source to scare off the IVM questers.  Please don’t reply re these being fabricated rather on the possible science of IVM side effects and what could be going wrong for those individuals?

tnx to all, curt

  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 11:55am

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    Bill in La Mesa

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    Poison Control Stats Can Mislead

Poison control centers treat every call as an event, and document the agent involved.  This includes calls from someone who may simply have questions or is seeking information.

“My husband took IVM intended for livestock; is he going to be OK?  Is there anything I should watch for?”

Poison control will always advise “this patient needs to be seen by a doctor”, and will document in their record the patient was referred to medical care.

Some may be frightened by this referral, and actually go to get “checked out”, which will be documented as a poisoning requiring medical intervention in the hospital emergency room records.

There is little differentiation between those who actually experience symptoms, and those who my simply be concerned; though statistics on those requiring admission should exist.

If you’re trying to report a dramatic story, you would ignore actual admissions and simply report poison control and ER statistics.

  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 01:01pm

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    FLCCC Prophy Protocol complete fail..

I’m a alpha variant survivor (with multiple comorbidities) from early March 2020 (who long hauled for 60 days after 30 days of misery). I like that FLCCC is recommending the gargle. IMO, more importantly is the use of pulsitile nasal irrigation with a liter hyper tonic saline solution 2x/day. If active with covid the addition of virucidal solutions like iodine, H2O2, Alkolol, sulfated polysaccarides (iota carrageenen), a surfactant like baby shampoo or licorice root tea.

Along with a nebulizer doing Dr. brownsteins protocol (i was doing between 10 and 20 drops of 3% H2O2 in 5cc of sterilr normal saline) https://thepowerofozone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Dr.-David-Brownstein-Covid.pdf

1 drop can equal 0. 045 – 0. 055 ml, assume that 1 drop = 0. 05 ml

So:1 drop or 0. 05 ml of 3% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide contains 0. 0015ml of Hydrogen Peroxide.

To a 5ml Normal Saline Nebulizer add;

1 Drop 3% H2O2 = 5.05ml Total 0. 0015ml or 0.029% H202
2 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.10ml Total 0. 0030ml or 0.058% H202
3 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.15ml Total 0. 0045ml or 0.087% H202
4 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.20ml Total 0. 0060ml or 0.115% H202
5 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.25ml Total 0. 0075ml or 0.142% H202
6 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.30ml Total 0. 0090ml or 0.169% H202
7 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.35ml Total 0. 0105ml or 0.196% H202
8 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.40ml Total 0. 0120ml or 0.222% H202
9 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.45ml Total 0. 0135ml or 0.247% H202
10 Drops 3% H2O2 = 5.50ml Total 0. 0150ml or 0.272% H202

  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 02:39pm

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    FLCCC Prophy Protocol complete fail..

The updated I-Mask+ Protocol does not include magnesium for some reason. This is really important. Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP) is NOT biologically active without magnesium. ATP is important for oxygen-sensing via the Na-K/ATPase channels in the lungs. It is important for nerve function with the Na-K pumps there. It is important for the prevention of hypokalemia and hyponatremia (low potassium and low sodium). Low sodium can cause extreme thirst. Magnesium is important for the prevention of clots. It helps slow tachycardia (personal experience here).

  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 03:55pm

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    question about making 1% Povodone-Iodine gargle/nasal rinse

Thank you Disco Bear for posting that update from FLCCC.

Prior to this, I thought we were supposed to be using a 5% Povodone-Iodine for the nasal spray. I was making a home made version with 1 mL of povodone-iodine 10% solution added to 20 mL of saline.

If I am understanding FLCCC, I need to change it to 1 mL of povodone-iodine 10% solution added to 100 mL of saline to make the 1% gargle/nasal rinse, right?

  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 04:34pm

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    Reply To: FLCCC Prophy Protocol complete fail..

No, that would make it 0.1%.  (And your original solution was 0.5%.)

I intend to use 1% if I have symptoms.  Otherwise, no more than .5%.  And it may not need to be that strong.  The following study shows it can be effective at .23%.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8026810/

  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 04:51pm   (Reply to #25)

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    making 1% Povodone-Iodine gargle/nasal rinse

Aria, to make a 5% solution starting with a 10% solution, you would only need to double the volume.  To 1 ml of 10% povidone iodine solution, you would add enough saline to make the total volume be 2 ml.  In other words, you would add only 1 ml of saline.

To make a 1% solution starting with 1 ml of a 10% solution, you would add 9 ml of saline.  In your final mix, you would have a total of 10 ml of solution, and .1 ml of that would be povidone iodine.  .1 ml / 10 ml = .01, which is 1%.

Your method of calculation would be correct if your povidone iodine solution was 100% pure povidone iodine.

  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 04:54pm   (Reply to #21)

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    FLCCC Prophy Protocol complete fail..

The evening news…..didn’t know anyone still watched it. Worst source of information out there. One could counter their stories all day long with solid fact-based rebuttals and still get nowhere. Curt, the Media is no longer independent nor is it truthful or reliable. Don’t buy into their stories, they are only meant to scare you and make you more compliant with their agenda.

  • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 05:05pm

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    How to consider Povidone/Iodine concentration

Let’s go to a root source paper.  As a chemist, it would strike me as strange and confusing if the papers were referring to anything other than absolute concentration, an example of which would be taking commercial 10% povidone/iodine and diluting it 1:20 with water to get 0.5%.  If we are saying that the 0.5% is relative to the commercial 10% solution, i.e. 0.5%, or a 1:200 dilution of that initial solution (of 10% conc.) I would be really surprised.

This paper shows that even at the lowest tested concentration of 0.5% (absolute), Povidone/Iodine shuts down the virus in vitro;

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2770785

Again, it would be utterly confusing if a paper was citing relative concentration, vs absolute concentration.  The 0.5% stated in the paper above is the same as a 1:20 part dilution of commercially available 10% povidone/iodine “Betadine” solution.

BTW, another paper I am looking at mentions something I was not aware of previously, and that is the affect of povidone/iodine on thyroid;

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2775984

Thyroid stimulating hormone elevation (median [IQR], 3.4 [2.6-4.3] mIU/L vs 2.1 [1.4-3.1] mIU/L at baseline) was observed in all patients after 5 days of PI exposure, exceeding the upper normal value in 5 patients, with a return to baseline values 7 to 12 days later. No modification in thyroid hormone (T3, T4) or creatinine levels was observed.

Thyroid dysfunction occurred in 42% of the patients exposed to PI, with spontaneous resolution upon treatment discontinuation, as previously reported.6

Maybe another reason to keep this strong stuff on the shelf unless you are really in the heat of fighting early infection.  After playing with 0.5% nasal irrigation a bit myself, I find it too strong to use on a daily basis.  I use iota carrageenan spray daily – I think this works mainly by disrupting the enveloped coating of the RNA virus.  In simplistic terms, like dissolves like.

 

 

Peter– I had COVID in June, with several co-morbidities.  I never went for medical care while sick, but have IgG antibodies for SARS COV2 administered after I recovered.

I make a habit of saline irrigation of my nose and sinuses every night and continued that practice while sick. I monitored my oxygen levels with an oximeter and controlled fevers. Interestingly, the infection never went to my lungs.  Prior to the infection I was already taking vitamins D, C, Zinc (in a calcium/magnesium tablet), famotidine, quercetin, and melatonin.

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