Fish in a Barrel: Las Vegas shooter

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  • Thu, Nov 09, 2017 - 07:17pm

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    Grover

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    Thanks, Rector

That was a great link, Rector! Much of it is based on plausible speculation, but without real facts … that's what we're left with. Wonder when/if the official investigation will be concluded and reported? It's already being attributed to a lone crazy gunman. No need to muddy the waters with unnecessary facts that might conflict with the official report.

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  • Thu, Nov 09, 2017 - 08:42pm

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    Time2help

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    First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs to be demolished

Probably best to get rid of the school, err…church. Keep things simple.

Pastor: First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs to be demolished (KSAT 12)

  • Mon, Nov 13, 2017 - 08:15am

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    Grover

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    Saw this on JSMineset.com

Saw this on JSMineset.com

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  • Mon, Nov 27, 2017 - 07:36pm

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    The public has forgotten Mandalay Bay, but its still there…

…rotting away.  There is something very "rotten in the State of Denmark."

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2017/11/more-rose-fertilizer.html?m=1

Gunman Stephen Paddock fired more than 1,100 rounds the night of the Las Vegas  shooting, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Wednesday. 

The new total includes about 200 rounds fired from Paddock’s Mandalay Bay corner suite and into the hallway of the 32nd floor late Oct. 1, injuring hotel security guard Jesus Campos. 

Lombardo was aware of the previously unreported total because the Metropolitan Police Department’s forensics lab is working in conjunction with the FBI to process all ballistics evidence from the mass shooting, which left 58 concertgoers dead and more than 500 injured. 

Investigators have not determined why Paddock stopped shooting. Lombardo said they found about 4,000 more rounds of unused ammunition in the gunman’s suite. 

The sheriff also mentioned that “multiple weapons” had jammed, as the Review-Journal has previously reported, but Lombardo again did not provide a specific number. He also did not provide a detailed list of the weapons Paddock had available to him. 

Investigators still have not determined the gunman’s motive.

Top. Men.

 

 

And despite nearly two months, they still haven't identified the weapons involved, but have notified us that multiple weapons "jammed". Y'know, like they do when you shoot them.



And oh, BTW, they have no idea why Paddock is supposed to have started shooting. 

Nor why he stopped. 

Nor why he quit with over 4,000 additional rounds remaining.



I repeat, this wasn't a mass shooting as much as it was a photo op. One or two weapons is a shooter. Twenty-three is a press release.



And quitting while fully healthy, with over 80% of your rounds remaining?



The simple answer is that the shooter didn't want to get caught. And didn't. 



But he (or they) left us Schmuck Paddock, helpfully already dead on the suite floor, likely the exact same place he was when the shooting started, as he/they made their retreat a full 10 minutes before anyone from LVMPD arrived to secure the shooting scene's perimeter.



And both the Clark County Sheriff's Department and the FBI know this, but they have no idea who they're actually looking for, so they don't want to reveal that nugget.



Or, alternatively, they know exactly who they're looking for, and don't want to reveal that nugget.



Either way, once again:

Top. Men.

  • Mon, Dec 11, 2017 - 05:43pm

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    Non-information from LVPD continues

 

New Mysteries Emerge from Las Vegas Mass Shooting

Tucker Carlson visited Las Vegas discussed the mass shooting event with a lawyer and a casino security expert – more questions were raised than were answered.  Doug Poppa has written 35 articles for the Baltimore Post Examiner, and he says that the police are not cooperative.  The police refused to answer his question about where the 40-member SWAT Team was during the event. It is unknown whether the shooter, Stephen Paddock, was known to law enforcement prior to the event.  The Las Vegas Police Homicide division was pulled off the case. Most of the weapons in Paddock’s room had bipods to stabilize them, and ‘bump stocks’, which are used to make semi-automatic rifles fire faster, cannot be used with bipods. Additionally, it does not make sense to have two shooting positions. The lawyer received the special event permit from the city for the outdoor concert that was filled out by hand by a Mandalay Bay corporate executive, instead of Live Nation Entertainment, the producer of the event that took place across the street from the hotel.

The second video features two employees of Mandalay Bay Hotel who filmed themselves during the shooting, police lockdown inside the hotel, and the evacuation. Their footage proves that police were concerned about multiple shooters and that there was a suspected shooter on the 4th floor of Mandalay Bay, although the media ‘debunked’ this information. This event may have been a drill, or a drill that went live.

  • Fri, Feb 02, 2018 - 09:23am

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    Grover

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    Fishier and Fishier

It has been 4 months since the shooting. Still, very little new information has been brought forward. I saw this article on ZH. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-01/clark-county-coroner-refuses-release-vegas-shooter-coroners-report-despite-court. I found it interesting that Paddock’s body was cremated on 12/21/17, yet they haven’t finalized the autopsy report. Hmmm.

I read the comments to see if any interesting links were provided. There were a few good ones. Here’s a post by user “JSBach1” with a couple of links. The second one has 28 photos. JSBach1 asks some good questions. I’d really like to hear THC’s thoughts about this. How about it Tom? Does this pass your sniff test? Would you expect bullets to leave such clean holes through a door (See pic #16)?

Grover

Follow me here and use these two sources for reference:

(1) Mandalay suite plan (see the hotel layout for reference) : https://www.intellihub.com/staged-crime-scene-photo-shows-l-bracket-scr…

(2) Mandalay room photos (take note of picture numbers and titles for reference): https://www.intellihub.com/28-new-crime-scene-photos-released-from-insi…

Look a the following series of pictures from above reference #2:

 

Pic #2. 32nd floor Hallway

  — notice entrance door (in one whole piece) down on the tile floor with door closer still attached

 

Pic #5. Inside room 32-135

  — notice (bottom left) entrance door on tile floor

  — also notice what appears to be blood spatter trail on tile floor, in middle right of picture

 

Pic #10. Sitting area toward master bedroom 32-135

  — notice both doors to master bedroom still attached.

  — also notice on tile floor where ceiling lamps are on the right side pieces of wood from entrance door being blown off

 

*** Pic #16. Entry door 32-135 & Pic #17. A portion of entry door

  — notice on Pic #16 entry door with door closer still attached now is missing the lower half (when it was a single whole piece in Pic #2 & Pic #5 on the tile floor) and is now on a carpet floor belonging to master bedroom 135 {see Pic #18 and notice the same carpet floor pattern in master bedroom 135}

  — notice on Pic #17 the bottom half of the entry door from Pic #16 upper half of entry door….and notice in Pic #17 top right corner there is a round cylindrical column room support (see layout from reference (1) above) together with the carpet pattern proves this broken entry door is located in master bedroom of room 135

 

*****Conclusion: two different entry doors (one as a single whole piece laying on tile floor at room entrance, and a completely different entry door broken in two parts, one upper and one lower sections, and both of these pieces lay on carpet in master bedroom…how did this other entry door — broken into two pieces — make it to the master bedroom?) Notice both doors, the whole one and the one broken in to two pieces…they both have the a door closer still attached. The broken door could not be from master bedroom entrance for these reasons and see Pic #10 as both of those doors are undisturbed. ***** Busted!

 

Pic #8. Bar area 32-135 & 9. Kitchenette

 — notice wooden piece of entrance door under the rifle (after door was blown off how did a piece of wood get under rifle bud)?

 

Pic #11. The connecting doors 32-134 (adjoining room) & Pic #20 Looking into bathroom of 32-134 & Pic #21 Hallway of room 32-134

  — if Paddock was the lone shooter and running between gunfire lulls via the attached doorway (connecting to adjoining room 134-135 {see layout in reference (1) above if need be) why is the adjoining door is knocked down and off its hinges (i.e. it must have been locked in the first place)

  …so how did Paddock run in between a locked door, or did he lock the door in between his mad dashes?

  • Fri, Feb 02, 2018 - 10:08am   (Reply to #106)

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    The investigation appears to fraudulent

It seems obvious to me that those in charge of the investigation (FBI, apparently) are trying very hard against numerous obstacles to create a coherent narrative that fits their purposes and values (whatever they may be).  This does not seem like an objective search for the truth, letting the chips fall where they may.  They seem to only want to present “evidence” that supports whatever narrative they’re pushing and not allow anything to leak out that conflicts with that narrative.  And it looks like a lot of the “evidence” is problematic for them, so it has to be distorted, hidden destroyed and explained away.  The superficial, short-term working experiences I’ve had with FBI field agents have all been positive, but I have no trust whatsoever in anything at the FBI above the level of field agent.  The numerous scandals and failures I’ve seen over the last 20 years have totally disillusioned me (or opened my eyes to the truth).  Don’t get me started on how field agents who were on to the 9/11 terrorists taking flight training were shut down by the FBI administrators before the event (apparently so it could go off without a hitch).  And wait until the FISA memo comes out later today.  Apparently, it may spell the end of the FBI altogether.

I’m about 2,500 miles from Las Vegas, so I’m hesitant to say anything specific about certain pieces of evidence without having been there and examined it myself.  However, those do look like high velocity bullet holes in the door, though if they were created by a drill I wouldn’t be able to tell from the photos. Did Paddock shoot himself or did the police shoot him? Haven’t they had two stories on that?  I can see no possible reason to withhold Paddock’s autopsy except: 1) they’re hiding something that contradicts their narrative, or 2) there’s something about it that reveals an active part of their investigation. For instance, if they think he didn’t shoot himself but he was shot by a partner and they don’t want that partner to know they’re on to him/her.  I suspect the former because it would be easy for them to tell us that they’re withholding the autopsy on Paddock because there’s something their investigating they don’t want anyone to know about yet.  I still have not seen anything near enough shell casings in photos of the room to account for what allegedly happened there.  I could go on, but what’s the point? There are many, many inconsistencies and unnecessary secrets.  Something fishy is definitely going on.  And I’m pessimistic we’re ever going to find out because they’re covering their tracks: Exhibit #1 – Paddock’s body was cremated, not preserved or buried. Now they can make up anything they want, or leave out anything they want, from the autopsy report (and still they won’t release it).  I guess they don’t want to release the autopsy yet in case it needs to be altered again from whatever it says now.   Exhibit #2 – The excessive secrecy about nearly every little detail.

It’s either the Keystone Kops or the Stasi running that investigation.  Since they’re not stupid, I assume their dirty (Stasi, it is then). But why?  What are they hiding?  What are they up to that requires that their machinations be this obvious to the public and the world?  

Thanks, Tom! Although we’re both removed from being in Vegas, you’re much, much closer to this line of work. When you say it smells fishy, it means more than when I say it smells fishy. At least the Mandalay Bay didn’t collapse in its own footprint. Be thankful for small miracles.

People are getting trained to accept official myths much more readily. The event happens, there’s a flurry of activity around it, a plausible explanation is proffered, and the MSM dutifully disperses the explanation without questioning any of it. There may be a few dissenting voices in dark corners of the internet, but it is explained away as nutters complaining. Then, another crisis erupts and the “flash cube” attention races to the next strange attractor. Since people are convinced of the mythical explanation, they don’t care to revisit the event. After all, it was such a tragedy. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I’ll keep my eyes open to information about this event. If anyone else finds something about the investigation, please post it to this thread. Thanks,

Grover

thc0655 wrote:

It’s either the Keystone Kops or the Stasi running that investigation.  Since they’re not stupid, I assume their dirty (Stasi, it is then). But why?  What are they hiding?  What are they up to that requires that their machinations be this obvious to the public and the world?  

Do  a Google search for Saudi connections to Las Vegas massacre and see what you make of it. Is it true that the top floors of the Mandalay Bay are owned by Four Seasons aka Saudis? Was the Saudi crown prince escorted out of the Tropicana under heavy guard the same evening? How did Paddock actually die? All good questions. Does anyone have any answers?

  • Sat, Feb 17, 2018 - 02:59am

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    Youtube truther content being deleted

In the wake of the most recent “shooting” in Florida I’ve noticed that virtually all of the Youtube content exposing the previous terrorist attack hoaxes has been deleted and / or they do not show up in searches (and this hoax too, although I can’t really say if this one was a hoax because the content just isn’t there. Even videos uploaded a couple days ago are now gone). There are still a few here and there but you have to do a lot of searching, and they seem to be only keeping the whacko nutjob videos.

Looks like the authorities are cracking down. “He who controls information controls the world”. The average person falsely believes that in this day and age of the internet, truthful information is more likely to get out but it’s actually the opposite because it is extremely easy to tag some search topics and shun them with algorithms, or simply outright delete stuff on Youtube. Whadda you gonna do about it??? Today, people have no other means of sharing information whereas decades ago paper constituted a good portion of it.

Makes me wonder if they are preparing for the big finale.

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