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  • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 10:30am

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    Sport7777777

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Well fellow members here it is the so called “vaccine” has been approved. Now is the time for us all to stand up for our rights and make it know WE THE PEOPLE control the U.S. There is going to be hardships ahead with this approval but we must continue to fight it is just one more step to the governments control over the country.

I myself may even loose my job because I work in the military but you know what I am not a guinea pig to be experimented on. Enough is enough and I have only spoken the truth about these so called “vaccines”. It may fall on deaf ears but you know we will bring the truth to this situation.

Contact all of your elected officials let them know the truth and push until we have breakthrough. For we were born for such a time and we must fight or we will falter.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

 

Much Love to All

V/r

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  • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 10:54am

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    Mike from Jersey

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Courageous stand, sport7777777.

I am retired so I am not facing such decisions. But, now that the vaccine has been declared “safe and effective” – which is a sick joke – I expect the “authorities” to run absolutely wild.

I am making plans to expatriate if necessary.

  • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 11:36am

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    Dontknownothin

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https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2021/08/19/what-discipline-could-you-face-for-refusing-the-covid-vaccine-when-it-becomes-mandatory/

The navy’s top doc says you may have time before they start the NJP or court martial process. Hopefully it becomes self evident how bad of an idea this was before our entire military effectiveness is compromised by this shot.

  • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 11:50am

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    BigMountainMan

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So I have a suggestion/request. I’m not vaxxed and will probably in the end be fired. I do however work for people who do not seem to be completely enveloped into the narrative. I believe their thought is “everyone is doing it”/”Why not they can’t financially retaliate”/”the Govt going to make it mandatory anyways”. I’ve been watching the YT videos for over two years and have greatly appreciated the information and the great benefits of this community. Does it make sense or does it already exist and i haven’t found it to show more about why “if” there is a difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed is once the person gets the virus and we need to each make our own decision that this process of mandatory vaxxing should not exist. Rather than all the bad sides of the vaxxing process, i.e. just show the simple data around the facts concerning the fact everyone will probably get the virus, the virus loads are the same, etc. Basically a misdirection using Govt. data that you cannot compare a sterilizing vaccine to this vaccine. Something that would show the proper data with links (maybe a power point), and would simply provide facts to people who are about ready to fire you but honestly don’t, they really see you as a valuable member but they are looking for an “out”. I know we can say “They are not leaders” or “They need to stand”, and etc. however my rebuke to that would be that we all have to start somewhere and everyone is at a different place. I welcome the thoughts and feedback from the community!

  • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 12:04pm

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    nordicjack

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That is exactly the mentality of why not to do it.. Just because everyone is doing it; that they are going to mandate it. ( no they wont.  the federal govt has zero ability to do so )    They will attempt to mandate it by taking away your job, your money, your ability to do things and visit places.   This is just more illegal ( civil rights ) attempts to coerce you.   HOLD THE LINE.  YOU will not have to take this.  Employers are calling your bluff.  Unless you are easily replaceable ( most are not ) employers suffer by mandating. ( they will not harm themselves , its a poker bluff)   The problem is as there are smaller and smaller percent of unvaxxed, the more likely we wear the gold star – and are rounded up and put in camps or worse.      Don’t do it.

  • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 12:15pm

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    Dontknownothin

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Matthew Ellison,

I’m not clear on what you’re asking. Is there a difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed in terms of health outcomes from Covid? Yes, there is. The vaccinated seem to have lowered risk of serious infection early on (first four months of vaccine roughly) but then once efficacy wanes, the vaccinated are representing higher rates of serious complications including death. This is in addition to the absurdly high adverse events associated with the vaccine. So the overall health risks to the vaccinated are much higher over time than the control group.

As far as a cut sheet or power point expressing all this information, since the situation is fluid there’s not really any way to say “these are the facts” despite the CDC doing just that and pushing mandates. But it would definitely be helpful.

As far as activism using the publicly available data, it is absolutely a good idea. The problem becomes that the government and media have made it so difficult to locate raw data, practically a crime for reporting it, and so difficult to interpret statistically that the common person is largely alienated from the facts and opens such factsheets or websites (openvaers.com for instance) to baseless fact-checking and doxxing to shut them down. This is a losing battle more like Dunkirk, where we’re informing as many as possible to evacuate before the tyrants completely crush us so we can regroup for a later assault. This has to play out more and there’s no time to reach everyone before the last boat leaves unfortunately.

The grim hope is that the vaccine deaths start to manifest and self evident, but the march toward full vax mandates and persecution is moving forward unabated. Its time to get to the boats.

 

Sorry if i miss-spoke, I’m willing to be fired and move. I’ve been looking to see what my house will sell for in the market. I’ve also been updating my resume and looking at jobs to determine what employers are looking for in my field. Also understand I have a large family so to do this is not a light decision. I’m simply asking “on my way out the door” it would be nice to simply open their eyes just a little and have them completely understand what they are doing and the fact that it’s destruction will be felt for generations. I’m just looking for easy, readable, simple data points that help prove the points.

I also think we need to understand the times we are living in right now are not “sane” by any measure, so I’m preparing for Plan B.

 

Thanks again for the input and I agree.

I get you. I’ve been doing the same. My house goes on the market this week and I am retreating to my property in the woods until this all blows over. I’ve been thinking about employer vax mandates and agree it would be good to give them a fact sheet along with the possible implications to enforcing it (namely a diminished and dying workforce of only vaccinated). The only thing I have in my pocket is the knowledge that those companies will collapse within a couple years and any persecutions of the unvaccinated won’t be forgiven once restrictions are lifted. Since government and first responders and most of our active economic system will be in shambles, I suspect retribution will only be regulated by God and lives will once again be “brutish and short” as Thomas Hobbes says.

  • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 12:44pm   (Reply to #5)

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I work for a relatively small US arm of a larger international company.  I have built a reserve of good faith as a technical leader.  I am going to use that good faith to make a scientific case against a vaccine mandate.  So far there is no talk of a mandate, but I know business leaders will be under pressure to enforce them.

My approach will be 100% science.  I have nearly completed a section (of powerpoint slides) relating to evolutionary biology and immune escape, this to counter the narrative that we should all take the shots for the good of society.  I will also delve heavily into the safety and efficacy of early treatments since this is a necessary counternarrative to the vaccines, which are demonstrably neither.  I will touch on vaccine safety, but I will not make it an overt focus because I am speaking to mostly vaccinated, i.e. pot-committed, managers.  I likely won’t be done with this for another week, but I will discuss more and potentially share some of it when ready.

  • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 01:24pm

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    wilderabbit

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I remember thinking last fall that when the vaccines became approved and not EUA that perhaps ivermectin stood a chance at being recognized as an early treatment (officially). I find that so laughable now. I don’t think it changes a thing for any off patent medicines.

Also,  I wonder how closely the Moderna and J&J follow suit. Will they still be an option pending approval or just the Pfizer? I don’t want any but some people might be more comfortable with the one and done (in theory!) vs the mRNA.

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