Excess Deaths: Who Dies From COVID19?

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  • Sat, May 01, 2021 - 10:09pm

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    Excess Deaths: Who Dies From COVID19?

Alex Berenson posted the following remarkable chart.  This is one of the clearest pictures of what really happened in 2020, unfettered by any nonsense about counting car accident victims who also test positive for COVID19 as “COVID19 deaths.”

This chart shows that virtually nobody under age 65 is at risk – except in the US & the UK, where we tend to be fatter than normal.

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-pandemic-related-excess-mortality-and-potential-years-of-life-lost-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/

Those who might feel the urge to claim that “lockdowns and mask mandates saved our asses” might consider looking at Sweden.  We remember, of course, the horrid callous Swedes had no lockdowns, and no mask mandates.  What happened?

Sweden actually had NEGATIVE excess deaths under age 74.

Take a victory lap, Sweden.  You guys were right.

Also, this chart shows us who we need to vaccinate – this assumes the “vaccine” actually works as advertised.   In general, we do not need to give the shot to anyone under age 65.

Because people under age 65 are not at risk!

And vaccinating children for this particular illness is just nonsensical.  There is the possibility of harm, with no benefit at all.

Note: elsewhere in this report are charts that show that, in the US, blacks & hispanics have substantially higher excess mortality than whites.  That’s either systemic racism – or its vitamin D deficiency.

Too bad our “health” officials didn’t see fit to distribute vitamin D to this vulnerable group just on the off chance the whole thing had a biological basis to it: dark skin in high latitudes = deficiency, especially during winter.

Which we’ve known for about a decade now.

  • Sun, May 02, 2021 - 05:39am

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I’ll be sure and tell my co-worker, whose 3 year old (formerly perfectly healthy) is now (as of Friday) in the hospital FOR covid (not with covid).  I’m sure it will be a great comfort to her.

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You’d also have to consider to what extent the mortalities were caused by the lockdowns themselves. Deduct the suicides, over -doses, and murders caused by people brought to the edge of their sanity by the lockdowns. Or the decisions made in nursing homes which we know have caused many needless deaths.

At the end of the day, if you could ever get real data [ which you cant ], you’d find that the response to covid was orders-of-magnitude more deadly than the virus itself….and all of these responses were created and carried out by the same system that wants you to take their vaccine.

Evil or stupid? Either way the outcome is the same.

  • Sun, May 02, 2021 - 03:09pm

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Dave,

This chart of age stratified excess death, and the chart you posted previously of mortality risk by age band are for… well death.

Have you seen any charts/data of age stratified “permanent damage” from COVID or from the vaccines? Death as an endpoint is quite easy to measure compared to “permanent damage” but for me I’d really prefer to not loose lung function or my sense of smell etc. so would like to do my own risk analysis based on risk of “permanent damage” from covid or the vaccine options.

Chris’ early reporting on the honey badger virus – it’s not the flu bro, was quite compelling. Now the anecdotes from VAERS are also compelling. The spike protein on it’s own does damage, so does the spike protein on the virus. So I guess that leaves IVM prophylaxis as the lowest-risk option? Anyone know of time limits on the current FLCCC IVM prevention recommendation: “Prevention for high risk individuals 0.2 mg/kg per dose (take with or after meals) — one dose today, repeat after 48 hours, then one dose weekly”. Can that be continued indefinitely? Yes IVM is extremely safe but are there impacts from long-term use? I’m personally not high risk so am keeping my horse paste on standby until exposure or symptoms while following the rest of the prevention protocol.

Thank you for your help pointing to any risk data that might be out there.

(Also DF thank you for all the years of the daily PM commentary! And I appreciate you logic and data filled posts filling the Dr. Martenson void.)

  • Sun, May 02, 2021 - 03:38pm   (Reply to #4)

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I don’t think IVM has been used long enough on a weekly basis to know but I haven’t heard of problems. I’d just take HCQ long term if you’re worried since it has loads of history with long term users as being very safe. It is also pretty effective against Covid prophylactically. And then if you do by chance catch Covid or are in a situation where you think you had a high risk of exposure just pull out the horse paste and it will clear it right up.

  • Sun, May 02, 2021 - 04:56pm   (Reply to #2)

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Spiritchi…..so sorry for the pain you friend is experiencing. I lost a family member to Covid and respect it as an awful disease, but I also see the statistics and agree with the general trends. If we vaccinate children we will cause more harm than good.

  • Sun, May 02, 2021 - 06:10pm   (Reply to #2)

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I have known 3 people who died from covid. 2 coworkers and a friend’s mother. All of them had major preexisting conditions. I am still willing to risk it without the vax and have my son not take the vax either.

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Spiritchi,

I think those kinds of outbursts are what has brought us to the state we find ourselves in now. Amplifying one tragedy over a host of others hasn’t been in the interest of public health – as far as I can tell. Children are at more risk of lockdowns than the virus. That is a fact. If you want some grim reading look at the child abuse statistics in the UK over the lockdown period and compare that with the UK Covid stats for the 0 – 14 age range presented above.

I think what are on offer are two models; one is fear and tragedy, the other is reason and compassion. One leads to a functioning society, whereas the other does not.

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Lots of children being harmed by the vaccine too

  • Sun, May 02, 2021 - 08:29pm

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    permanent damage, collective risk

I would assume that excess mortality is a rough measure of severity.  I’m going to guess that some multiple of COVID19 mortality will result in long term injury – some of which can be rehabilitated, some of which cannot.  I just don’t know what the multiple might be.  Here’s an article:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

Most people who have coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) recover completely within a few weeks. But some people — even those who had mild versions of the disease — continue to experience symptoms after their initial recovery.

Older people and people with many serious medical conditions are the most likely to experience lingering COVID-19 symptoms, but even young, otherwise healthy people can feel unwell for weeks to months after infection…

Note that the damage issue from hospitalization can be true for other illness as well.  For instance, my friend’s wife had “permanent damage” from her hospitalization from influenza (viral pneumonia) several years back.  There are tens of thousands of influenza deaths every year.  (Except 2020, of course).  How many “influenza permanent injury” cases are there?

The long COVID experience is real.  Member DaveDD observed that recovering (rehab from) from any relatively unpleasant disease experience takes time and effort.

The reason I posted the excess mortality chart is – I believe it is a rough measure of collective risk for COVID19 that is difficult to argue with.  Those who say deaths were undercounted in some age group will have a hard time explaining the lack of excess mortality.

Based on this chart, for instance, there is little collective risk in the 0-14 bracket. And there’s also the issue of comparative risk assessment:

1)  435 children under age 5 died in auto accidents in 2019.

2) 100 children under age 5 died from COVID, through April 2021.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3

The excess mortality chart confirms the CDC’s numbers.  For young children, car seats, tire care, and safe driving by parents are at least 4 times more relevant to their survival than any COVID19 precautions.

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