Equality: A fourth ‘E’ for the Crash Course?

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  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 11:11am

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    xraymike79

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    VF,     For those who

VF,

     For those who see no reasoning behind adding a 4th ‘E’ for Equality, perhaps we should institute the 4th ‘E’ as the one having an already apparent effect on the entire world —- ‘Empire’. It’s run by a class of humans called “Homo Colossus” or “Empire Man” whose resource-sucking lifestyle became carelessly and arrogantly detached from the laws of both nature and physics and whose ethics became grotesquely twisted around the single-minded goal of maintaining the ‘American way of Life’ at the expense of all else. His economy and behaviour revolved around the assumption of limitlessness in what is turning out to be a very finite world.

The Three E’s: Economy, Energy, Environment and Empire.

With this 4th E we can sidestep any sort of discussion about ethics and the commonness of mankind. In Empire, the world is your oyster.

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 11:30am

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    War Is A Racket ~ Major General Smedley D. Butler

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It’s the first review for the book at Amazon.com from a list of 108. It was written in April of 2004 with the title –

‘War is a Racket’ ~General Smedley Butler USMC

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FWIW, War is a Racket was actually written in 1935.  It was reprinted at a later date.

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ao,

Yes, and the reviewer used the title of Butler’s 1935 book in reference to Chalmers Johnson’s 2004 book as a heading because it holds a symmetry to it,  written for the 21st century. The reviewer is a huge fan of War is a Racket by Major General Smedley D. Butler (PDF), it would seem …

~ VF ~

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 11:54am

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    Aaron M

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    XRayMike79

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Aaron, is that you in those pictures with the Afghan children? Your smile shows a person who has a good heart, but you are operating within the framework as described above. That’s not a criticism of you, just of the corrupt power structure that operates under the guise of ‘helping’ foreign people.[/quote]

Yes, that’s me. I don’t want to sidetrack this further, but I think it’s important that you know that corruption is a component of any human structure, and that there is a lot of good going on here that you’re not going to see on the syndicated news. Just because there is corruption, I’d encourage you to consider the possibility that there is good going on, and it’s not all gloom and doom.

I can’t really say much more, but the elements we’re fighting here are driven by hate; no amount of understanding of rhetoric is going to “cure” them. They’ll hurt people with absolute impunity if we allow it.

Again, all I can say is that I’m very glad to have an opportunity to serve here.

Cheers,

Aaron

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 01:09pm

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    C’mon Ao, How Can You Deem It Impossible?

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Hmm. I tend to use colour instead of color. I guess everyone has their own idiosyncracies.

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It’s not a matter of idiosyncracies.  It’s a matter of where one was born and educated.  If one is born and educated in the USA, one will spell it ‘color’, not ”colour’.

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Ao

Well, I never attended a British school nor grew up in a Commonwealth nation. I deliberately choose to use colour, honour, and armour instead of color, honor, and armor out of personal preference as a poet. That’s my idiosyncracy.

For all other spellings and terms, I use American because I was educated by Americans. So legalize, realize, and actualize, instead of legalise, realise, and actualise. I also use the American program instead of programme, defense instead of defence.

Poet

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 01:17pm

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    Blowback … Empire as a Forth E …

Aaron,

Maybe I’ll repeat myself for the umpteenth time. I do not want any harm to come to you, no matter what our ideological differences. Neither do I believe that you personally are doing a bad job – this is because of the good you are doing in your own personal immediate circle of influence. These are the good that you recognise and are defending here. I and others here are not attacking this, and never have.

I, too, clearly remember very well indeed, after an incident years ago in Palestine that very much changed the course of my life to the point where I am now in my thinking. I also remember well the experience of coming back to the UK and witnessing so much ignorance about me. Where the incident had changed my life massively, its media comment space was little more than a single solitary paragraph on page 19 of a major newspaper.

Here, then, was the point that I went back heavily into the past of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict, and I saw it for the lie that it was.

Afghanistan has plenty of past in the proof that what occurs there in the present was directly and indirectly caused by the United States Empire in the past. Yet you are there to fix the devastation of it, and in the process of the bigger picture, causing yet more permanent means in giving reason to be there.

In most every case, every country is in the line of fire of the United States by cause and effect. The United States policy is a Rogue State, and the blowback from it is becoming ever more dangerous now, than at any time in prior human history. The United States military will not stop without bankruptcy, and these are the exact terms that have been set by the rest of the world. With luck, we’ll have more than a single solitary blade of grass standing when it crashes.

I’m sure you feel very determined to save the lives about you at this time. But I ask you, do they have a future because of what came before them?

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small “inside” group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many.

 ~ Major General Smedley D. Butler

~ VF ~

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 01:30pm

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    Why I am Not a Painter ~ by Frank O’Hara

Poet,

I just thought of this : –

I am not a painter, I am a poet.
Why? I think I would rather be
a painter, but I am not. Well,

for instance, Mike Goldberg
is starting a painting. I drop in.
"Sit down and have a drink" he
says. I drink; we drink. I look
up. "You have SARDINES in it."
"Yes, it needed something there."
"Oh." I go and the days go by
and I drop in again. The painting
is going on, and I go, and the days
go by. I drop in. The painting is
finished. "Where's SARDINES?"
All that's left is just
letters, "It was too much," Mike says.

But me? One day I am thinking of
a color: orange. I write a line
about orange. Pretty soon it is a
whole page of words, not lines.
Then another page. There should be
so much more, not of orange, of
words, of how terrible orange is
and life. Days go by. It is even in
prose, I am a real poet. My poem
is finished and I haven't mentioned
orange yet. It's twelve poems, I call
it ORANGES. And one day in a gallery
I see Mike's painting, called SARDINES.

 

~ VF ~

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 01:34pm

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    VF

No worries at all – I never had the impression anyone here didn’t want the best.
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I’m sure you feel very determined to save the lives about you at this time. But I ask you, do they have a future because of what came before them?[/quote]]

Most. Definitely.

This is going to muddy the “facts”, but it may be an important time to recognize that Standards of Living as defined by Western Culture are abscent here. So, I find it to be extremely hipocritical to say that we’re “oppressing” citizens – we’re not. We’re suppressing violent militants in the same vein as the RUF in Sierra Leone – so that the Afghan people have a shot at prosperity.
Are there ulterior motives? Almost certainly. But in general, the future they could have – education, functioning civil services, access to necessities – is not even possible under Taliban rule.

So, it’s my belief that we are doing good in general.
I think that many of the young people here would agree.

Cheers,
Aaron

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 01:37pm

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    The “Four E’s”: Economy, Energy, Environment and Empire …

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VF,

     For those who see no reasoning behind adding a 4th ‘E’ for Equality, perhaps we should institute the 4th ‘E’ as the one having an already apparent effect on the entire world —- ‘Empire’. It’s run by a class of humans called “Homo Colossus” or “Empire Man” whose resource-sucking lifestyle became carelessly and arrogantly detached from the laws of both nature and physics and whose ethics became grotesquely twisted around the single-minded goal of maintaining the ‘American way of Life’ at the expense of all else. His economy and behaviour revolved around the assumption of limitlessness in what is turning out to be a very finite world.

The Three E’s: Economy, Energy, Environment and Empire.

With this 4th E we can sidestep any sort of discussion about ethics and the commonness of mankind. In Empire, the world is your oyster.

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Mike,

If I had my way the Crash Course would have twenty two chapters instead of twenty, with those extra two dedicated to the logical premise of your post!

~ VF ~

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 04:05pm

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    A lot of that is just plain wrong

There are a lot of issues in the health care industry in the US.  Nobody will argue that.  The article above seems to add myth in an attempt to dispel myth.  In particular, point 5 is way off base.  The focus on health care reform is wrongly focused on the insurance industry.  I’m no fan of that industry, but I do recognize that they are one of the few sectors that has a vested interest in reducing the cost of health care.  Just about every other segment of the system benefits from increasing costs.

A lot of people forget that insurance companies are generally not free to set the rates as they wish.  For almost  every rate change, they need to submit data that shows the expenses that these rates are based on to the state level department of insurance.  That agency has the ability to either approve or deny the charge and they will deny a rate change if they don’t see the need for it in the data.  When insurance companies applied for a 30% rate increase in California, the media hyped it as price gouging, but never mentioned that the DOI approved that change based on the 30% increase in the cost of the medical care.

Health care reform took a broad swipe at the insurance industry while leaving tort untouched.  It focused on the one industry that has been trying to reduce the cost of health care through wellness programs while failing to address fraud or tort reform.  The whole health care system needs reformed, not just the one part it.  Starting with only that one part can cause more harm than damage.  Take the issue of pre-existing conditions for example.

There is always a lot of talk about how evil the insurance companies are because they do not cover pre-existing conditions.  As long as we have a health care system that allows people to either buy insurance, or not buy insurance, you cannot cover pre-existing conditions.  The auto insurance business does not allow somebody to buy insurance only after having an accident to get the repair covered, but nobody questions the idiocy of allowing a person to only buy health insurance when they need it.  The concept of insurance in this country is basically that a group of people pool their money to share the risk of any one of them becoming ill.  Yet, there is a large number of people that feel they have the right to dip into that pool when they need the money, but have no desire to pay into that pool when they don’t.

The insurance industry does need reform, but there are other segments of the health care system that need it first.  I agree that insurance should go back to being a not for profit business and become customer owned again.  But, that can be said for most other segments of the health care industry as well.  The US has sold out too many industries for profit and we are feeling the pain from that choice.  Our system of education is run for profit and we now see students that have a choice of getting an education and becoming an indentured servant of the government or skipping education.  We have drug companies that skip development of drugs that could help smaller numbers of truely ill people to focus on broad appeal lifestyle drugs for conditions like ED.

In the interest of self disclosure, I need to mention that I work in the insurance industry.  I don’t care for it and believe it could work better, but I’ve never seen the type of activities that this article speaks of.  I have seen programs to try to improve the health of the customer.  Sure, programs like that are self serving , but it’s a win-win if there ever was one.

Tim

 

  • Wed, Jun 29, 2011 - 05:23pm

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Hmm. I tend to use colour instead of color. I guess everyone has their own idiosyncracies.

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It’s not a matter of idiosyncracies.  It’s a matter of where one was born and educated.  If one is born and educated in the USA, one will spell it ‘color’, not ”colour’.

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Ao

Well, I never attended a British school nor grew up in a Commonwealth nation. I deliberately choose to use colour, honour, and armour instead of color, honor, and armor out of personal preference as a poet. That’s my idiosyncracy.

For all other spellings and terms, I use American because I was educated by Americans. So legalize, realize, and actualize, instead of legalise, realise, and actualise. I also use the American program instead of programme, defense instead of defence.

Poet

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So you were born in the US and had your education in America by Americans?

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