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  • Fri, May 04, 2012 - 03:02pm

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    docmims

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    Canned goods are good for 10

Canned goods are good for 10 yrs.

 

Easy start is to buy an extra case of vegetables, dried fruit, peanut butter or tuna fish a week.  Whatever is on sale. you will have a good supply of food in no time.

You can start canning and go with the 20 year freeze dried stuff, but I think it is just a lot easier to buy stuff at your local grocery store or Sam’s while it is on sale .  Don’t make a big deal out of it. start small and build.

 

If you start talking about 40yr storage and those kind of logistics, you are probably better off getting guns and artillary and just taking everyone elses food.  (just kidding)  I plan on being one of the zombies, so watch out!

  • Fri, May 04, 2012 - 09:44pm

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     I Agree 40 year storage is

 I Agree 40 year storage is a waste of time. If you can’t grow your own food for 40 years I’m guessing the planet isnt going to be much fun to be on anyway. I just keep about 3 months extra basic food in stock and rotate it every week. 3 months is easily enough to get yourself sorted and find sustainable sources of food. Knowledge is more powerful than stocks of food.

  • Fri, May 04, 2012 - 10:38pm

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    flyattic wrote: I Agree 40

flyattic wrote:

 I Agree 40 year storage is a waste of time. If you can’t grow your own food for 40 years I’m guessing the planet isnt going to be much fun to be on anyway. I just keep about 3 months extra basic food in stock and rotate it every week. 3 months is easily enough to get yourself sorted and find sustainable sources of food. Knowledge is more powerful than stocks of food.

Nobody is talking about storing 40 years worth of food.  We were talking about storing food that will last at least 10-15, more likely 30, possibly longer.

It’s in the buckets, it’s in mylar, it will sustain 4 adults with the minimum nutritional requirements for a year.  I hope to never need it – it’s like an insurance policy.

And as such, worrying about a source of food is now out of mind.

  • Sat, May 05, 2012 - 08:14pm

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    Dogs_In_A_Pile

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flyattic wrote:

 I Agree 40 year storage is a waste of time. If you can’t grow your own food for 40 years I’m guessing the planet isnt going to be much fun to be on anyway. I just keep about 3 months extra basic food in stock and rotate it every week. 3 months is easily enough to get yourself sorted and find sustainable sources of food. Knowledge is more powerful than stocks of food.

Nobody is talking about storing 40 years worth of food.  We were talking about storing food that will last at least 10-15, more likely 30, possibly longer.

It’s in the buckets, it’s in mylar, it will sustain 4 adults with the minimum nutritional requirements for a year.  I hope to never need it – it’s like an insurance policy.

And as such, worrying about a source of food is now out of mind.

Ah yes i actually realised that after I posted. I apologise for my gaff, whoops. But still, I would put foraging skills far ahead of food stocks (even if they last 40 years) . You have to remember that many people just can’t afford the huge amounts of cash you need for that freeze dried goop (i looked into it). I can quite happily live out the year living off wild edibles and some stored potatoes and winter squash for the winter months. Learning bushcraft is far more empowering and useful in any kind of situation In my humble opinion. I heartily recommend it. 

  • Sat, May 05, 2012 - 09:32pm

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flyattic wrote:
Dogs_In_A_Pile wrote:
flyattic wrote:

 I Agree 40 year storage is a waste of time. If you can’t grow your own food for 40 years I’m guessing the planet isnt going to be much fun to be on anyway. I just keep about 3 months extra basic food in stock and rotate it every week. 3 months is easily enough to get yourself sorted and find sustainable sources of food. Knowledge is more powerful than stocks of food.

Nobody is talking about storing 40 years worth of food.  We were talking about storing food that will last at least 10-15, more likely 30, possibly longer.

It’s in the buckets, it’s in mylar, it will sustain 4 adults with the minimum nutritional requirements for a year.  I hope to never need it – it’s like an insurance policy.

And as such, worrying about a source of food is now out of mind.

Ah yes i actually realised that after I posted. I apologise for my gaff, whoops. But still, I would put foraging skills far ahead of food stocks (even if they last 40 years) . You have to remember that many people just can’t afford the huge amounts of cash you need for that freeze dried goop (i looked into it). I can quite happily live out the year living off wild edibles and some stored potatoes and winter squash for the winter months. Learning bushcraft is far more empowering and useful in any kind of situation In my humble opinion. I heartily recommend it. 

Foraging skills are definitely valuable but, if, for example, there is nuclear, biological, or chemical contamination of your local foraging spots, you’re SOL if you don’t have any access to stored foods.  I’ve got decent plant foraging skills and have eaten that way for brief periods of time but after a year of eating that way, I’d disappear if I turned sideways.  I’ll either need to kill something with blood in it or have stored food stocks to survive.  YMMV, 

  • Sat, May 05, 2012 - 11:18pm

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    Hmmmmmm, let’s see……..

 

……… foraging for food, or stockpiling food, or growing food in the ground or raising food (as ao says) ‘with blood in it’?   How about All Of The Above? That oughtta do it.

  • Sun, May 06, 2012 - 06:27am

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     yep, thats what I’m doing.

 yep, thats what I’m doing. (barring the livestock, you’re opening a can of worms there)

  • Sun, May 06, 2012 - 07:49am

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    Hiding Food Thread

Time to mention the other thread about Hiding Food, which also includes a discussion on why hunting may not be the best idea…

Hiding Food
http://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/hiding-food/53143

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  • Sun, May 06, 2012 - 02:00pm

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    Food storage…

WIthout knowing where you live, let me give you a little local history.

During the Great Depression, there were around 25,000 people in my county. The deer herds were in prime condition as was the other wild food stocks. Heck, we still had two of the local tribes migrating with the herd, my neighbor is old enough to remember it and tell me the stories.

So at the end of the Great Depression, the herd had been decimated. Disease had set in and the overhunting had damaged the genetic diversity to the point where other animals eventually had to be brought in to save the herd.

Today there are 85,000 people in my county, the Feds/State have prevented mountain lion and severely restricted other predator hunting, all the while issuing the same amount or more deer hunting licenses. The results speak for themselves here, there will be no wildlife to support a human population within 180 days of a disaster that stops the trucks rolling. And this is within an hour of Yosemite National Park.

If things go bad, people will scatter about like locusts, consuming everything in their path, in total ignorance of the Native American systems for preventing the outright destruction of the life cycle.

Without some food storage, we would not have a chance. I imagine the state of nature and lack of human population in your area would have to be much better than mine for you to feel that you can forage effectively long term, without depleting resources. Native Americans migrated to prevent localized resource depletion, so I am not sure how things have changed, in light of our nationwide and global population explosion, to make nature more resilient and capable of supporting human life than it has been historically.

Just Sayin.

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  • Sun, May 06, 2012 - 03:07pm

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     You would be amazed

 You would be amazed at 

a) the amount of wild edibles around. (i’m talking plants here, not animals. we can live without meat, leave the meat for the yahoos with their rifles)

b) How little people know about what is and what isn’t edible. There are still enough ultra poisonous plants around to scare the sh*t out of people and stop them just randomly eating stuff.

Point taken, I do live in the countryside and I know exactly where all the local wild edibles spring up each year. But if you’re still in the city then you’re f*cked if your storing food or not. Gangs of teens would invade every house they could, they’re even more likely to make you a target if you have defenses and stockpiles (as shown to the outside world by your lack of coming out of the house). This is all obviously a what if, worst case scenario as collapse is more likely to be a slow process (or so I’m constantly told)

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