Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

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  • Tue, Apr 27, 2021 - 11:35am

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    Steven Kelso

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    Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

I’m ENTP. No pressure to get vaxxed, here.

Folks that know me avoid entering discussions of depth, because they know I’m fairly ruthless in debate.
It’s nothing personal. It’s never about being right; it’s about the truth.

  • Tue, Apr 27, 2021 - 12:02pm

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    pforth

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    Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

Seems to me that the dangers of getting a vax… while not zero, remain an order of magnitude less than the dangers of getting covid (death, long term disabilities etc) even with Ivermectin as a backstop.

I’m happy to get the vax just to be able to reduce my personal risk and go out in the world with a degree of comfort again.

  • Tue, Apr 27, 2021 - 12:23pm

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    Blaggers

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    Reply To: Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

If asked about when I’m going to get vaccinated I’m going to reply “when the human trials are completed”.

For Moderna that’s the 27th October 2022 and Pfizer 31st January 2023.

If that means I can’t travel internationally, go to sporting events or concerts for another year then so be it.

I’m not prepared to be part of an experiment for big Pharma.

  • Tue, Apr 27, 2021 - 02:54pm

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    Joegrane

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    Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

There is definitely some pressure but I am well prepared to politely defend my position.  It is really important that we take the opportunity to better inform the very deceived general public.

Medical decisions involve a risk-benefit analysis as well as informed consent.

I had low risk for a bad outcome before Ivermectin and I-Mask+ came along and before I got the infection and had a mild case.  Furthermore I’ve had my vitamin D tested several times in over the past ten years and should be near the center of the normal range.

I actually prepare 1 or 2 page handouts about Ivermectin, vitamin D, FLCCC, medical leadership corruption, VAERS reports of adverse reactions, etc.

So with such low risk for a bad outcome from the virus and protection from previous infection why would I want to accept risks associated with an experimental vaccine?  It would be insane to accept the risk and get little or no benefit.

Furthermore with the long history of corruption at the CDC and in medical studies why should I trust their numbers about vaccine safety and efficacy?  It is hard to assume there is honest informed consent.

My C19 infection was a little over 3 weeks ago.  I gave blood yesterday thinking I would contribute to the convalescent plasma program, but was notified that the program is currently paused.

Supposedly the Red Cross is still doing antibody testing.   I may get a second antibody test but I hear that 3-4 weeks after symptom onset is a good time to get the test.   If anyone has information on that I’d be very grateful.

  • Wed, Apr 28, 2021 - 07:20am

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    It’s a really tough decision.

My father and brother are all over me about getting the vaccine. I have some long term health issues so they are probably correct.

I tend to try to look at things from the perspective of my DNA. My body, brain, and identity is just a machine that my DNA built to get it from one generation to the next.

If my entire genetic lineage have taken this RNA (got the vaccine) into their code, then maybe I shouldn’t.

My daughter got through COVID, as did my wife, so no need for them to get vaccinated. Of course, I need to be around to help my daughter take the DNA football and run with it.

It’s a really tough decision.

I’m not trying to be an asshole, but I’ve learned over the years to do the exact opposite of the community consensus here. Which means I will probably incorporate that spike-protein RNA at some point.

I just want to drag my feet a little longer.

  • Wed, Apr 28, 2021 - 12:31pm

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    IAMMichael

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    Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

I did get a lot of pressure to get vaxed from my family at first. Once I started going into it with them they realized that I had done my research and they had not. They then defaulted to “you are a conspiracy Theorist” which I replied, no, I am informed.

If I come across someone in public who asks me if I will get it I tell them, no, I am in the control group. If they ask what I mean by that I tell them about how both Pfizer and Moderna un-blinded their control groups and vaxed them, so there really is no control group right now in the human trials that are ending in October 2022 and 2023. Most times they have no idea that the FDA has not “Approved” them and that trials are still going on. Based on how the discussion goes I will try to get in as much details as they can handle such as:

The Moderna reports stated that there were no deaths in the vax group and one death in the control group, then stated during the review committee meeting that they actually had 3 deaths in the vax group, 2 heart attacks and 1 complication to liver issues, but they determined that they were not related. I think that it is crazy that those conditions would be considered Covid deaths if they had it with them but not as vax deaths. How do they know that they didn’t contribute to those conditions.

I tell them about the issue with pregnancy and the mRNA vaxes leading to placenta rejection and them screening out pregnant women before starting the trials. Why would they do that when they knew that there were issues. I then tell them about the women who got pregnant during the trial and how some had miscarriages.

I tell them that I have a real problem with the trans-human aspects of the vaxes. If they ask, I tell them that all of the vaxes including the J&J are gene therapies and anyone who takes them are now GMOs. All of the vaxes start with the spike protein DNA. The J&J puts that DNA into an edenovirus to deliver it into your cells to reprogram your DNA to make the spike protein. The DNA is used to make mRNA in the Pfizer and Moderna versions and that is encapsulated with 4 different kinds of lipids to make the cells take up the mRNA and then the cells will make the spike protein. The cells targeted by the mRNA are dendritic cells, which are nerve cells and brain cells. That is why so many people are having nervous issues, Bells Palsy that doesn’t go away, etc.

If they still ask me if I am going to get vaxed after all of this I shake my head and walk away.

  • Wed, Apr 28, 2021 - 01:09pm   (Reply to #26)

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    Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

DrBeen (google youtube) likes the Novovax vaccine — maybe try to hang on for that?

  • Wed, Apr 28, 2021 - 02:27pm

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    Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

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If the VEARs reporting gets 1/100 actual adverse events and the vaccine deaths reported for the US are 3486, then it could actually be  as high as 348,600. Total US deaths recorded from (or with) Covid 588,161. In Wisconsin(?) there was an estimate that only 6% of covid deaths were actually from covid alone; there have also been numerous reports that covid death totals are exaggerated. So it would appear to me that there may be similar risks of death. The vaccine is forever and the complications (other than death) are now 86,080 (X100) which to me is more worrisome. There is treatment for covid, and to me, that seems to be better odds.

  • Wed, Apr 28, 2021 - 03:27pm   (Reply to #10)

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    PhilH

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    Do you feel pressured to get vaxxed?

It is not a lie to tell someone that is NOT entitled to the truth.  If it’s none of your business, then you don’t get the truth.

  • Wed, Apr 28, 2021 - 04:11pm

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    Israel may be the test case for full-on vaccine passport implementation

You really must read this twitter thread written by an Israeli lawyer – it’s a cry for help.  Click on the box below and it will take you to the thread;

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