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  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 07:07am

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    Desperately seeking new neighbours

If you live in Australia, or if you’re moving to Australia to live, you might be interested in living next to us…… for more info on our activities, vist my blog where this post is an entry in its own right.

Mike

Desperately seeking new neighbours

22 10 2009

The 2 acre spare block beside us is up for sale. We’ve taken having this empty space for granted for so long, it’s a bit of a shock to see it on the market. Understandably, we are concerned that some yahoo developer could buy it and stick a McMansion on it, and drive his ride on mower all over it twice a week to keep up the great Australian Lawn myth…..

SO……  whilst we still have some control over who might buy it (the owner has not yet put it in the hands of agents), we are doing his marketing!

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The three views above, to the SE at left, due S in the middle and SW at right, give an idea of the landscape as would be seen from what I consider the better house site.

The land slopes gently to the West, but an energy efficient house similar to ours could easily be built there. The soil is quite OK, no great challenge for a Permie soil builder. It’s quite high, only second block from the very top of the hill, and so should prove to have no drainage problems. It’s a blank slate (apart from the magnificent 75 year old Crows Ash evident in the photos) and has tons of potential for another sustainable settlement like ours.

When standing near the bottom and looking up, you can see the following vistas:

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This block also has a great dam site, something our block severely lacks. Even though we are going through adamsiteparticularly dry period right now, we still haven’t run out of water, and with a dam as a bonus, year ’round irrigation would be possible, giving this block great potential as a farmlet project.

The owner would like $250,000, but in the current market I think it could be had for $200,000 (besides I happen to know that’s all he needs to retire to where he wants to move, he told me so!)

The rates should be ~$1000 a year, that’s how much ours are.

The best part of living here is the neighbourhood. The property directly behind this one recently sold to a couple of likeminded people into organics and natural therapies, and the house directly above this block just changed hands weekend before last, and the new owner said to me they bought it to ride out Peak Oil! If that’s not a good sign, I don’t know what is….

Anyone reading this who buys this property would find us very co-operative. Ideally we’d like to have neighbours willing to share skills, produce, labour and friendship…… but living in each other’s pockets would be harder, you’d need to be really friendly maybe? Your decision really….. Cooran being a Transition Town, we would like someone who is not averse to that sort of philosophy. So there you are…… the ball is now in your court. Who will catch it?

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 11:17am

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    Re: Desperately seeking new neighbours

That looks like a nice piece of land (and the neighbors seem nice as well 😉 but the price is astronomical for only 2 acres.  In our area, I could get a beautiful 80 acre piece with some of it in timber that I could sell for profit and renewably use for fuel.  Why so high?

BTW, do you do distant architectural consultations for building an energy efficient home?

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 02:04pm

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Looks like the US Fed will be your neighbor after its next global bailout. Bernanke is probably a good neighbor though, but I doubt he could get citizenship because no one would hire him.

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 03:18pm

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    Funny Formations Down Under

OK, Mike . . . I can’t move down under, but I’m mighty curious about that strange topographic formation in the background of your photos . . . Is it:

A)  An alien launching pad?

B)  An eroded ancient ziggeraut?

C)  A really big aboriginal burial mound?

D)  Abandoned strip mine tailings?

E)  The future site of your water tower, to be used as an energy sink, during those really sunny spells?

F)  [Preemptorily censored]

 

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 07:36pm

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That looks like a nice piece of land (and the neighbors seem nice as well 😉 but the price is astronomical for only 2 acres.  In our area, I could get a beautiful 80 acre piece with some of it in timber that I could sell for profit and renewably use for fuel.  Why so high?

BTW, do you do distant architectural consultations for building an energy efficient home?

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Where the heck do you live!!!  Where on earth can you buy 80 acres with lumber for $200k?  I honestly would like to know as I’m looking for land as we chat!!!

Mike, I would love to move to Australia!  My wife and I have discussed it many times but I’m an avid gun owner and shooter of many different types.  Many just wouldn’t be allowed in your country from what I’ve researched.  And “yes”, it’s that important.  Born and raised with them they become a part of your life…..

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 08:16pm

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Where the heck do you live!!!  Where on earth can you buy 80 acres with lumber for $200k?  I honestly would like to know as I’m looking for land as we chat!!!

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I’ve said this many times before. Midwest USA. Southern Missouri, Arkansas. 80 wooded acres without improvements will run about $70 – $80K. Add a well, grid connection, and some other structures and you are still only at $120K.

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 08:16pm

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Logan……  in Australia, you don’t need guns! Nobody around here owns one, the hunting is pathetic – I do know people who go “out west”, and I’;’m talking 1000 miles, just to shoot feral pigs and bunny rabbits, all of which are worm ridden and unedicle, killed for the sake of ridding the environment of really destructive pests. You could shoot ‘roos for meat, though even here you’d have to be careful of parasires. Australia is not kind to white man’s northern habits I’m afraid! None of this will be possible within maybe three years when Australia’s oil production will be terminally compromised….

The mountains in the photos are old volcanic plugs (and I mean millions of years old!) They are the reason our soil is somewhat above the Australian average mediocre soil quality, we at least have some minerals here.

Cooran is on the main rail line running up and down Australia’s East coast.

I totally agree that the price of land is ridiculous. As I’ve posted in other threads before, we luckily bought our block for $49,000 in 2002, minutes before the market went ballistic. In no time it was worth $150,000, then $200,000….. but it’s not the money worth I was interested in, I wanted somewhere secure and reasonably fertile to settle. Had I known land was about to skyrocket, I would have bought all the other blocks I refused and made a killing! There’s nothing like 20/20 hindsight, is there?

This google earth screenshot gives you an idea of the area…… the five white square dots indicate the approximate corners of the land for sale.

Someone else asked if I would do architectural consultancy on this….  you betcha! And if the right person comes along, I’d even consider doing it for free. I said we’d be co-operative. I would also assist in Permaculture design should you kno nothing about how to do this……

Mike

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 08:28pm

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    Re: Desperately seeking new neighbours

Logan,

Here is a quick search, this property is only about 20 miles from mine…

http://www.unitedcountry.com/search06/SearchViewProperty.asp?SID=75773901&Item=723650&Lcnt=&Page=9&Office=24140&No=24140-51940&AU=N&FT=P

United Country has a great web search engine for land, check it out.

R

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 08:33pm

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Logan……  in Australia, you don’t need guns! Nobody around here owns one, the hunting is pathetic – I do know people who go “out west”, and I’;’m talking 1000 miles, just to shoot feral pigs and bunny rabbits, all of which are worm ridden and unedicle, killed for the sake of ridding the environment of really destructive pests. You could shoot ‘roos for meat, though even here you’d have to be careful of parasires. Australia is not kind to white man’s northern habits I’m afraid! None of this will be possible within maybe three years when Australia’s oil production will be terminally compromised….

The mountains in the photos are old volcanic plugs (and I mean millions of years old!) They are the reason our soil is somewhat above the Australian average mediocre soil quality, we at least have some minerals here.

Cooran is on the main rail line running up and down Australia’s East coast.

I totally agree that the price of land is ridiculous. As I’ve posted in other threads before, we luckily bought our block for $49,000 in 2002, minutes before the market went ballistic. In no time it was worth $150,000, then $200,000….. but it’s not the money worth I was interested in, I wanted somewhere secure and reasonably fertile to settle. Had I known land was about to skyrocket, I would have bought all the other blocks I refused and made a killing! There’s nothing like 20/20 hindsight, is there?

This google earth screenshot gives you an idea of the area…… the five white square dots indicate the approximate corners of the land for sale.

Someone else asked if I would do architectural consultancy on this….  you betcha! And if the right person comes along, I’d even consider doing it for free. I said we’d be co-operative. I would also assist in Permaculture design should you kno nothing about how to do this……

Mike

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Thanks for the explanation, Mike . . . I’m guessing the land in question is at the bottom of your aerial shot?

  • Thu, Oct 22, 2009 - 09:24pm

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Matrix,

I feel the tingle of jealousy running up my spine. Laughing

But unless your community is looking to hire a non-citizen law man at a living wage, I don’t think it is going to work out for me.

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