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Department of Justice is lying about racial drug-related data

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  • Thu, Apr 16, 2009 - 08:08am

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    Department of Justice is lying about racial drug-related data

Looks like the financial sector of the government isn’t the only one that’s willing to cook the books:

http://www.tremblethedevil.com/my_weblog/2009/04/even-without-lies-the-damage-is-already-done.html

 

  • Sat, Apr 18, 2009 - 02:16am

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    Re: Department of Justice is lying about racial …

that article got greenlit to Fark’s main page yesterday: http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4331774

…for a place that’s pretty intent on flushing out the government’s lies I’m surprised no one has any reaction to this.

  • Sat, Apr 18, 2009 - 02:19am

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    Re: Department of Justice is lying about racial …

Anyone care to paraphrase for those of us who have browser blocks at work?

  • Sat, Apr 18, 2009 - 03:18am

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    Re: Department of Justice is lying about racial …

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Looks like the financial sector of the government isn’t the only one that’s willing to cook the books:

http://www.tremblethedevil.com/my_weblog/2009/04/even-without-lies-the-damage-is-already-done.html

 

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This is the bare bones of it: [quote] When you are sworn into Federal Court, you are exhorted to tell "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."  Each of these phrases carries a slightly different angle against any possible lie – not only are you swearing to speak the truth, but also to not hold any part of the truth back, and to not mix in lies among the truth you do tell.

By its own standards, the US Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics is openly and unabashedly lying about the racial divisions that remain within the American penal system. 

A report by The Sentencing Project uses data provided by the Bureau of Justice Statistics to come to the cheery conclusion that over the six-year period from 1999-2005 there was a 21.6% drop in African-Americans serving state prison time for drug offenses, while the number of white increased by 42.6%.  This fact headlines every major newspaper article about the report, including articles in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Christian Science Monitor, and The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Ignoring for a moment the extraordinary racial disparity in the enforcement of drug laws that existed prior to 1996, with blacks accounting for less than 15% of all drug users but over half of those in prison for drug offenses, when you take the time to examine these numbers you’ll see that by courtroom standards they are lies.[/quote]

  • Sat, Apr 18, 2009 - 02:52pm

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    Re: Department of Justice is lying about racial …

Might be that a majority of the posters, viewers here are white. I find this no surprise, as any number of statisics are being manipulated these days. Can anyone believe government numbers today, tomorrow?

  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 03:44pm

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    Re: Department of Justice is lying about racial …

HotRocks,

Please be careful with that temper. There is no need to take this where you are going.

Davos does a great service for this site which he does not, to my knowledge, get paid for in any way. Everyone appreciates his investment. Making disparaging comments about him or his inclusions of things you don’t specifically care for are hurting your position greatly. After all, if you don’t think Uncle Jay should be included (which I do because it cannot be ALL BAD NEWS ALL THE TIME or we go insane) then it is just as easy to dismiss your article on the grounds that it is equivalent to Uncle Jay in validity.

You may have a point here, but try a different tact bud.

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  • Wed, Apr 22, 2009 - 11:55pm

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    Re: Department of Justice is lying about racial …

What temper?  The words I had in quotes were from the Uncle Jay videos, which stride some odd line between quirky and patronizing but haven’t seemed particularly newsworthy to me.  Where do you think I am going?

If people think it’s important, they can drop Davos a line.  If they don’t, they don’t. 

I said "I don’t understand," I asked "how is this not important and newsworthy?" and I speculated that it seems like the Uncle Jay videos pass for important on this site since several of them have been put up on the Daily Digest.

If I seemed worked up or something… well yeah, when hundred of thousands of Americans get thrown behind bars because of laws that have racist origins and then when the Department of Justice manipulats its data to try and make it seems like things are changing more than they are, yeah maybe I get a little excited. 

That seems at least as notable as somewhat the obscure bits of economic data that may or may not directly effect people’s lives which regularly get at least one or two posts on the Digest.  Maybe that’s just me though.

 

  • Thu, Apr 23, 2009 - 12:14am

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    Re: Department of Justice is lying about racial …

Which laws have racist origins?

I’m still struggling to see how this is important.

In general, I’m against *most* laws – because they don’t do any good.
That said, there is very little in the way of "Jim Crow" laws these days… Correct me if I’m wrong.

I thought we were talking about skewed statistics, not racist laws…?

  • Thu, Apr 23, 2009 - 12:22am

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Internet Snafu – apologies.

  • Thu, Apr 23, 2009 - 12:25am

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    Re: Department of Justice is lying about racial …

[quote=HotRocks]

That seems at least as notable as somewhat the obscure bits of economic data that may or may not directly effect people’s lives which regularly get at least one or two posts on the Digest.  Maybe that’s just me though.

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HotRocks — do you understand what the purpose of this site is?  Are you familiar with the three "E"s?  What does this have to do with the three Es?

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