Deepest Dive I’ve Seen into the Lab Leak vs Act of God Hypothesis

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  • Fri, May 07, 2021 - 08:49pm

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    Bill in La Mesa

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    Deepest Dive I’ve Seen into the Lab Leak vs Act of God Hypothesis

Some may feel it’s best not to think too much about the unthinkable, but this topic has been smoldering in the back of my mind too long.  This is the best deep dive into the topic I’ve found.

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

It covers a lot of what Chris explained last year, but also quite a few aspects I’ve never heard of before.

It’s a tall glass of water, so make some coffee.  Skip ahead if you find the first half a bit tedious.  The second half is truly enlightening.

It boggles the mind to think there may be dozens/hundreds of people who go to sleep every night knowing exactly what happened.  Are they truly capable of taking these secrets to their grave?  I realize many of them may already be in their grave (disappeared), but some surely remain.

  • Sat, May 08, 2021 - 07:17am

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    Deepest Dive I’ve Seen into the Lab Leak vs Act of God Hypothesis

The plot thickens…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9556415/China-preparing-WW3-biological-weapons-six-years-investigators-say.html

China was preparing for a Third World War with biological weapons – including coronavirus – SIX years ago, according to dossier produced by the People’s Liberation Army in 2015 and uncovered by the US State Department

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    Deepest Dive I’ve Seen into the Lab Leak vs Act of God Hypothesis

https://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/news/coronavirus-likely-escaped-wuhan-lab-says-former-cdc-director-robert-redfield

“Coronavirus likely escaped from a Wuhan lab, says former CDC Director Robert Redfield”

Speaking to CNN on Friday, Redfield, who served in the Trump administration, said it didn’t make sense for human-to-human transmission to spread so quickly to become one of the “most infectious viruses in humanity” had the virus originated in a bat.

“I don’t believe this somehow came from a bat to a human,” he said. Usually, it takes awhile to become more efficient in human-to-human transmission.

“I just don’t think this makes biological sense,” said Redfield, a virologist.

The most likely etiology is the virus escaped from a lab, he said. It’s not unusual for respiratory pathogens to infect laboratory workers.

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When you have people like Redfield speaking on record, and even NPR beginning to go from Lab leak conspiracy theory to ????, I think the narrative is changing.

What this means? Anti-China MAGA thrust of Trump was not fought by Dems, now perhaps Biden team picking up the gauntlet.

War with China? Or excuse for more defense spending?

Rickard’s “default on US Treasuries Bonds to China to pay for Wuhan Flue” thesis playing out?

When the Narrative changes, there is a reason… What is it?

 

 

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    Here’s a potential Wuhan lab leak mechanism (fully documented)

Here’s a potential Wuhan lab leak mechanism that’s fully documented:

Here’s an excerpt of a “tip” email that I gave to a medical reporter for the NY Times on 7/28/2020.  I don’t think he ever ran a story on this:

I’m not a big fan of PAPR for hospitals because of complexity, disinfection challenges, etc.   Also, I’ve attached the well-done paper on disinfection that you had a link for in your article.  I’ve attached it in case you want to see the markup version that I send to doctors.  It’s interesting that it found the hose on the 3M BreatheEasy PAPR couldn’t be disinfected of live virus.  BTW, when I read that paper, I recalled that’s the same PAPR that was used in a Wuhan virology lab when creating “chimeric viruses” by splicing the common cold virus with the SARS virus back in 2015:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

I wonder if it’s possible that the hose on this PAPR was in fact the mechanism for an eventual “lab leak/escape” that resulted in the current pandemic??  Who knows.

 

Here’s the paper on the extreme difficulty that researchers had in disinfecting the 3M BreatheEasy PAPR that was used in the Wuhan lab in GOF / PPP experiments:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6193495/

Here’s a key excerpt:

For cleaned-only surfaces, [only] 1 of 17 surfaces demonstrated recoverable viable virus: 1.73 ± 1.33 log10 TCID50 from the breathing tube of the 3M Breathe Easy model.

Interestingly, it says that Honeywell/North 7700 respirators were easily disinfected.  I began suggesting their use by hospital workers before I ever read this paper.  (I regularly use them myself.)  I still am willing to donate them for free to hospital workers, in the hopes of widening their use in preparation for future pandemics, etc.

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