Crisis Simulation – Day 1

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  • Sat, Nov 07, 2009 - 04:06pm

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    Crisis Simulation – Day 1

Note: This is the second in a series of threads designed to simulate an unfolding crisis. The purpose of the threads is to determine a “plan of attack” that could be executed quickly if such a crisis were to occur. For more information see Crisis Simulation – Day= -1 .

Also, I forgot to mention one important detail about this simulation: We are going to pretend that we all live in the same geographic community. As this simulated crisis unfolds, there will be many decisions that we will have to make as a community.

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Simulated News:

  • This morning, there is news of an impending terrorist attack all over the blogosphere. A few mainstream media news outlets have mentioned it, but most refrain from reporting the rumors.
  • The stock market is crashing. Gold continues to soar in price.
  • There are reports that the domestic military and National Guard are beginning to be mobilized.

Simulated Circumstances and Events

  • You are very concerned about the situation, and decide that while everybody else is making a run on the banks to get cash, you need to make one more shopping trip to get everything that you put-off buying yesterday.
  • You have to make the decision on whether you are going to leave or stay put. 
  • Your gold dealer shut his door because he is sold out and can’t obtain any more PMs.

 

So based on this information, please answer the following questions:

  • Assuming that it will be chaos at the grocery store or mega-store, what items do you put the highest priority on attaining? List your top 10 most wanted items and be specific about what they are and why you prioritize them the way you do.
  • At the hardware store, what do you plan to purchase and why?
  • Any other specialty stores that you plan to shop at?
  • If you plan to build up a barter inventory, what do you buy? What items would best serve as a “local currency” if their is a shortage of cash / PMs?
  • If you decide to leave, what are you taking with you and why? Where do you plan to go and why?
  • If you plan to shelter in place, what preparations do you make at your home / homestead and why?

Thanks again for your input….Jeff

 

  • Sat, Nov 07, 2009 - 04:53pm

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    Crisis Simulation – Day 1 Update

Situation Update:

In the midst of your preparations:

  • All electrical power goes down.
  • All vehicles built in the last 30 years stop working. Cars are pilled up on the interstate.
  • All modern generators fail to start.
  • All operating photovoltaic and wind turbine power systems go down. Your inverter fails, so you don’t even have access to any power that is in your battery bank.
  • All TV, Radio, Ham radio, cell phones, and land lines cease to operate.
  • Anything that has solid-state electronics in it is no longer functioning.

Welcome to Crisis Simulation Day 1.

Now what?

  • Sat, Nov 07, 2009 - 05:27pm

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Wow.  That doesn’t leave much functioning.  I’m going to cheat and say I have a teensy l’il AM transistor radio that I kept in an ammo can which’d keep the EMP (I’m assuming an EMP knocked out all the electronics) from harming it.  I’d check for news while I packed a daypack and a few liters of water from my supply on hand.  Then I’d ride my mountain bike around to the nearby houses of all the CMers I had the good sense to live near to see how they are and to formulate a plan of action.  Could very well be that for now folks will want to stick close to home, but I’d also plant a seed that perhaps we should double up as space allows at the most ‘hunker-ready’ houses.  (Fr’instance, at our house we have a woodstove that’d allow us to heat the place and cook, and we have 2 free bedrooms [and a rumpus room that could sleep 2-4 people]…so if folks wanted to cluster up for security/company, our house would be a decent place to go.)  

If folks indeed thought that was a good idea, I’d collaborate w/them on how to get critical supplies or whatever from their place to mine (bicycle?  wagon?  wheelbarrow?)…  

I’d keep checking the radio for news and clues…

Viva — Sager

nb:  3rd sentence edited for clarity & completeness

  • Sat, Nov 07, 2009 - 07:13pm

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I would be very sorry that I had not bought more hay and animal feed on day-1. The first thing to do would be to make an inventory of local resources and set up an alternative communication system. Is the land-line phone system up and running? I would ride my bike or my horse around the neighborhood to see what resources were available and I would make a list of them. I would ride the five miles to town to see what the police had available and to establish a regular time for our neighborhood to check in with them. l would tell them who in our neighborhood had old vehicles without electronic elements. I know there are a few. 

We should all have bikes and ham radios, by the way, but starting on day minus one doesn’t give us time so we should all be getting ready for that now. 

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    Meeting Tonight at Sager’s Place.

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I’m going to cheat and say I have a teensy l’il AM transistor radio that I kept in an ammo can which’d keep the EMP (I’m assuming an EMP knocked out all the electronics) from harming it.  

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The only problem with that is there are no stations broadcasting….dead air.

I agree that we should all get together and get organized. Perhaps we should have designated an emergency meeting place and time back when we had communications. For now, Sager and I will ride our bikes around the town of Martensonville and notify everyone of a meeting tonight by word of mouth. We can “recon” the town’s situation as we do this. We will all meet at Sager’s tonight and everyone should bring some food from their no-longer functioning freezer for a BBQ feast. (hope you don’t mind Sager)

Does anyone have a functioning classic car circa 1960s-70s?

 

  • Sat, Nov 07, 2009 - 07:54pm

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 Ah  we do have  a few 70 ‘s-50’s trucks and horses  for back up  . I would have to drive around  to check on the folks and  neighbors , gather up my kids  that  live in town  and pray for my daughter stuck in NYC Little I can do for her from here .

     If it is summer I would have to get busy canning all the meat in the freezer and start the smoker .  We have a usable pump well and rain water in all the barrels . Work hard while the sun shines and be ready for bed at dark .  Listen to my husband curse because he can’t sleep without a fan and winding down in front of the boob tube . 

But it reminds me I better get a solar fencer to keep the animals from wandering to far maybe not such a big deal . Not many will be driving around to hit them.

  • Sat, Nov 07, 2009 - 08:40pm

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 Oh yes we would need to go down the road and help the  dairy  with milking  .  Their family is no where big enough to milk 120 cows twice a day by hand .

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Ok, I guess it would really depend if I was at work or at home.  I guess I’ll assume I was at home.

(in order)

1) Send the wife and baby to spend the day with my dad and stepmom (it’s less than 2 miles away but they’d still probably take the car).  To be on the safe side they will take the shotgun with some extra shells with them, in addition to our bug-out-bags and anything needed for the day (formula, diapers, clothes).  Have my wife and dad and stepmom call up as many family and friends and fellow CM’ers possible to make sure they’re alright and warn them of the potentially bad situation.

2) Secure household valuables (the smaller stuff anyway) in the gun safe before I leave the house for emergency shopping.  Probably include whatever home documents aren’t already in there, picture albums, our Brunton solar charger, my personal and my work laptops and data storage, my home PC (it’s a Shuttle case so it’d fit though the monitor won’t), and my Xbox and games if it’ll fit in with the other crap.  Take out half of the emergency cash and one of my handguns for conceal carry.  If anyone breaks into the place they’ll get the large tv but not much else of value.

3) Take our existing inventory list and the “more-stuff-to-get” list, lockup the place, and head out shopping.  Primary focus is to avoid anyplace with overly large crowds…. banks and most grocery stores.  Places to stop in order:

3a) Gun shop – Take the list I made yesterday and get whatever is on the list that’s available.  Fill out the background check paperwork, and while that’s processing (usually is quick but given the circumstances could take a couple hours or more), take a trip to the…

3b) Grocery/department store – Anything except Walmart… the one near our place is a nightmare even on normal days.  Just a standard all-purpose store like Fred Meyer or Target.  If it’s really crowded, don’t even stop.  Just keep moving.  If it’s not crowded or I find another type of store that’s less crowded (Walgreens maybe?), focus more on non-food consumables on the “to-get” list (baby needs and cold weather clothing are priorities) and pick up any prescriptions my folks might need but haven’t picked up yet (ask them to call it in ahead of time).  Now head to…

3c) Liquor store – Get perhaps a dozen or two bottles of higher-end liquors, and the same amount of cheaper high-proof liquor.  Mostly with barter in mind; my wife said when her home country’s currency collapsed, alcohol was highly valuable (kinda screwy priorities IMO but if it’s what the people want…).  Get 2 twelve-packs of one of my favored beers; I’ll probably want several beers at the end of this day.  Next stop is the…

3d) Gun shop – Come back to pick up my purchases, with some boxes of ammo if some are available.  If the background check still hasn’t gone through, tell them I’ll pick it up later today or early tomorrow and head straight home.  As the day progresses things will likely get more chaotic and traffic jams and accidents are more likely to occur, so try to be back home before lunchtime.  Now…

3e) Drive back home – Unload the truck.  Spend the next couple hours putting the purchases away, filling the collapsible water jugs if I hadn’t already done so yesterday, and updating the inventory list.  Turn on the tv or radio to listen for new developments while I work.  Once that’s done head back out to make another shopping run to the hardware and grocery store and pick up my order at the gun shop if it wasn’t ready before.  I assume that the EMP would strike during this 2nd trip or earlier that afternoon while at home (hopefully it wasn’t earlier during the 1st trip, otherwise I’d be pushing all that stuff a few miles in a shopping cart Frown).

4) Change of plans.  If I’m out shopping, make sure the truck is parked safely off the road, take out whatever high-priority stuff (cold weather gear I keep in the trunk is at the top of the list) I can carry or push by cart, and hoof it to my parent’s place immediately.  Maybe catch a ride if possible, as old 70’s and early 80’s cars and pickups are still somewhat common here.  If I’m already home, lock up the place and run over to the family.  Make sure they’re alright and confirm that their electricity and electronic devices are also FUBAR, and if they still have running water fill up the bathtub and any other available containers.  Turn off the gas and leave the water running at a trickle (so pipes don’t freeze), and move the fridge/freezer to the back porch.  Hmm, I guess that’s something that could vary location to location…  where I’m at the temps are already below freezing this time of year.

5) Make sure my family sets a watch, and then head out to check in with neighbors and friends and collect and relay any information I can and note who still has working vehicles or generators.  After the last stop, head back to my place and move the fridge to the arctic entryway.  Now open up the safe, and take the laptops out and see if any will power on.  There’s a decent chance the gun safe may have protected some or all the electronics inside as would a Faraday cage.  If they work, celebrate with a beer.  If they don’t, commiserate with a beer.

6) Make sure everything’s locked up good and tight, then take my portable indoor propane heater and my rifle and head back to the family.  Nail up blankets around the living room to keep the heat in.  With the fireplace and the propane heater (if needed), we will be good for the night.  Have at least one person keep watch overnight and listen periodically to the crank radio for any news.  Tomorrow we will see if we can get any of the cars working (EMP does not always disable all late-model cars as completely as we’re given to think) and figure out where to go from here.

Boy, I think this was my longest post ever.  I think I went a little apesh*t here Tongue out

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  • Sun, Nov 08, 2009 - 01:14pm

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    Re: Crisis Simulation – Day 1

Start canning the meat in the second freezer.

Hook 25kw generator to the “Ole Deere”(only need an hour of electricity/day)

Hay the beeves

Mix whiskey sour and get out acoustic guitars,bass,drums gonna grill and jam. The noise will bring a neighbor

who will give us the news, being self sufficient in rural south-central VA is a way of life. We’ll wonder a bit about

when the hoards will arrive to pillage.

robie husband,father,farmer,optometrist

 

Pre-’86 mercedes diesels with manual trans are bullet proof,seviceable and efficient(for their era).

also Honda trail “CT” series pre ’81 are EMP resistant,simple and efficient.

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    Re: Crisis Simulation – Day 1

Computer hackers cause major blackouts

By Richard Reynolds

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/08/2736567.htm?section=justin

An official with Brazil’s electricity regulator has confirmed that large scale
blackouts in 2005 and 2007 were caused by people hacking into the computers that
control the electricity grid.

The official with ANEEL, which regulates electricity producers and transmission
in Brazil, said that while the evidence was not absolute, it was widely believed
that hackers broke into control computers and shut down power to millions.

The 2005 attack in Espirito Santo state shut off power to about four million
people.

Another attack in 2007 shut off power to about one million residents in Rio de
Janeiro.

The perpetrators were never identified.

Australian authorities are also concerned about such attacks.

The office of Attorney General Robert McClelland has a special advisory group to
monitor progress in protecting infrastructure such as power grids.

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