Covid or Vaccine Spike Protein shed?

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  • Fri, Sep 24, 2021 - 11:00am

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    drsharp

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    Covid or Vaccine Spike Protein shed?

Hello!

I have a bit of a technical question that’s been rolling in my head recently and I wanted to get some thoughts from the excellent people here at PP. Here’s the question, then I’ll fill in background details and ask it again:

Is it possible to get COVID-like symptoms from shed spike proteins from someone who was recently vaccinated? And if so, how would you know the difference?

So here’s the background on why I’m asking this…

I got sick in April 2021, along with my wife. We thought it was just a cold but then got tested and got a positive PCR test that it was COVID-19. She was mildly sick for about a week. Mine was a bit more severe and I did in fact take some IVM after about a week, which I believe helped. We are both fine now (yay!) but here’s where the story muddles in my mind:

The most likely explanation for where/how we caught it was a party we threw with 5 people… close close friends… who had been our prayer partners during my cancer treatments. We threw this party to celebrate me being cancer-free (double yay!). One of the ladies is an older gal who had decided to get vaccinated and I remember talking to her about it before the party. So she was recently past her first jab. None of the others were vaccinated that I’m aware of, but knowing them I’d wager that none others were.

Anyway, it’s possible that my wife and I caught C19 from somewhere else… maybe our 19yo son could have had an asymptomatic case (he works at Starbucks and is frequently exposed to fellow workers who get COVID). Or maybe just some other random interaction. Who knows. BUT I do wonder about our lady friend who was vaccinated and then spent 3 days with us around the time of that party.

So question one which sets this up: Does the generation of spike proteins via the mRNA vaccines result in a situation where a vaccinated person might be shedding those spike proteins? And if so, could someone catch those shed spike proteins? And if so, would they have COVID-like symptoms but not actually have COVID (i.e. they didn’t come into contact with SARS-CoV-2 but rather the manufactured spike proteins)?

And the follow-on question if some/all of that are true: how would one know for sure? As in: my wife and I had positive PCR tests at the time. Would that have only been positive for COVID? Or would this “infected with spike proteins shed from the vax” also invoke a positive PCR test?

I apologize if I’m not being super clear in this. I’m just wondering if this is even a thing and if so how to know for sure?

Thoughts? Or questions if I’m not clear?

Thanks,

Dan

  • Fri, Sep 24, 2021 - 11:57am

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    Covid or Vaccine Spike Protein shed?

My understanding is that the spike protein created by your own body in response to the vaccines is not a live virus.  It is only a part of the Covid 2 virus and cannot replicate.

“Shedding” is a term that describes the process by which a viral infection can spread outside of the body via the delivery of whole viral particles from one person to another, via aerosols or droplets, I don’t believe the vaccinated “shed” a live virus capable of causing a Covid infection.  At most, they might be able to expel a spike protein, but spike proteins cannot cause a Covid infection.

It is possible your friend, although recently vaccinated, simply got an Covid infection herself prior to your party.  We now know that is entirely possible, particularly if she did not receive both shots well in advance of the party.  She also may have been without symptoms and never knew she had it.

  • Fri, Sep 24, 2021 - 12:34pm

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    Covid or Vaccine Spike Protein shed?

“Shedding” is definitely a thing with the vax.  I don’t see any consensus about what the mechanism might be or really what the shedding entails.  It wouldn’t be Covid, but it might involve some of the adverse effects that a vaccinee would experience depending on exactly what was “shed”.

  • Fri, Sep 24, 2021 - 12:38pm

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the spike causes all the damage, not the virus. and the spike is extremely small, much smaller than the virus. so it crosses all manner of barriers and when produced in the billions/trillions after vaccination could easily be breathed out to others nearby.

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    Covid or Vaccine Spike Protein shed?

While it is possible to suffer COVID19 symptoms from just the presence of the spike-proteins created by the mRNA serums, and it is possible for these spikes to be transferred to others via shedding, it is also possible your immune systems could react to these shed spikes to produce antibodies against them…but to a much less extent..as the person, who was actually jabbed.   Your reaction to the synthetic spikes would create the a PCR positive…but, so would just about anything else…if they are using more than 25 reps.

It could even be possible you both simply had a normal “cold” or a non-Covid19 flu.

But, your normal immune reaction to simply the shed spikes, would cause the typical symptoms of associated with the production of antibodies…and the normal defensive body functions.

Your slight symptoms and short-term illness and positive tests could all be the result of mRNA spike shedding reaction.

  • Fri, Sep 24, 2021 - 02:03pm   (Reply to #5)

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Ision, you wrote:

Your slight symptoms and short-term illness and positive tests could all be the result of mRNA spike shedding reaction.

But the symptoms weren’t really that slight, especially for me. I had problems taking a full breath for about 2 – 2.5 weeks. I don’t know if I lost my sense of taste because the 4 months of chemo treatments messed that up so bad it was hard to tell what was “normal” or not, at least for a while.

I think my big concern is simply this: if it’s possible that my wife and I didn’t suffer a reaction to SARS-CoV-2 but instead to mRNA-vax-induced “shedding” (assuming that’s a thing), how would we actually know? or find out?

Maybe I’m over-thinking and over-reacting. We did get an antigen test a few weeks after recovering and it was positive for both my wife and I (but negative for our 17-yo daughter who lives in the house with us. Interesting). So maybe I should just not worry… but I want to know that we have full-on natural immunity to COVID-19, and not some immunity to shed vax particles, if that makes sense.

Cheers,

Dan

  • Fri, Sep 24, 2021 - 02:24pm

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You would need to have more than a positive PCR test to discover exactly what occurred to you and your wife.

Because of your suppressed immune system, due to cancer therapy.  I would expect your symptoms to be greater than your wife’s, just because of this.

In effect, you could have been impacted by the shedding of spikes, which goosed your immune system to produce antibodies…which further weakened its resources…and could have allowed you to a deeper immune reaction, including in your lung.  The amount of shed spikes could have been greater for you…and inhaled spikes attached to the ACE2 receptors there..causing cell damage, and causing your body to produce lung specific macrophages and lymphocytes…and your lungs to flood a bit (a normal immune reaction).

One must remember that an INHALED SPIKE does not cause the same reaction as an internally manifested mRNA generated spike, which is in the blood and internal tissues.  The inhaled spike sits on the outside surface of the lungs, and require different lymphocytes to address.   The same antibodies people develop, when injected with an mRNA serum…is simply not the same…as those infected via their inhaling the pathogenic spikes.

You would need to determine exactly what kind of lymphocytes your body created, and whether your T-Cells and B-Cells can be found for the virus.  If your body displays a FULL IMMUNE RESPONSE…naturally, you came in contact with the real beast.  If it does not, you were exposed only to the synthetic spike.

Then again…  It is still possible to have been infected with a synthetic spike, shed by a jabbed person…AND..to then become infected with the actual SARS COV 2 virus…at the same time.    Just as you could become infected with ANY other disease, as one does not prevent the other.

 

  • Fri, Sep 24, 2021 - 07:04pm

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Can you all show me some data that suggests that shedding is a real thing with an inactivated spike protein? Even if spike protein can shed to someone else, it can’t replicate inside of anyone. Are you suggesting the mRNA can shed?  I am not trying to be difficult, but I do not understand the mechanism behind the shedding theory. If individuals were shedding spike protein after vaccination, they would routinely test positive shortly after vaccination. I don’t think this has been shown in the literature.

Most likely, you were exposed to COVID somewhere by someone who was asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic. (I was – pregnant young person got tested because she was a bit more tired than she felt like she should be – she and her husband were positive. Everyone who was in the same facility, even with minimal interaction with the couple, ended up getting covid unless they were previously infected or vaccinated, including teens. So, asymptomatic transmission is absolutely possible.) And, in the big picture, you now have some level of natural immunity and shouldn’t be as severely sick in the future when you run into the coronavirus again. Congrats on beating cancer and COVID!

 

  • Fri, Sep 24, 2021 - 08:20pm

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If in doubt, look and listen to this YT clip. This is a stunning admission, from a pro-Vax doctor, I believe this used to be the PP CEO.

 

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    Looks like the prions have taken up residence.

So HER kids are TOO YOUNG to VACCINATE but the real risk is – despite being fully vaccinated – she might still bring it home to them from all the unvaccinated people???

Maybe the prions have already got her?

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