Collapse-A Documentary- Mike Ruppert

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  • Tue, Mar 30, 2010 - 02:48pm

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[quote=Romans12.2]

SS…..to yhom

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I’m… not sure i understand you, yhom? Yhom yoga?

I can assure you I am me and no one else, thank you very much. Although I’m not sure how long I’ll stay here after the welcoming I’ve had!

Best,

  • Wed, Mar 31, 2010 - 05:46pm

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And the alts are back…….sloppy and careless, but back.

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Rick,

To infer that there are ‘Doppelgangers’, ‘Sock Puppets’ or ‘Alts’ along this thread is utterly unreal, shaming and insulting. I guess you’re just another member of the tag team that wish to discredit the content and writers of this thread?

Spiteful of you too.

Let me see if I can redress some balance to this already lopsided thread. Three threads that need no more than a glance at to confirm that in January 2009, you spent the first 18 days of writing here acting as though you had no knowledge of Cat233.

What is more, you fed her opinions so as to gain the notice of other forum users to the existence of two of those threads just like those ‘Talking Head’ Hairdo’s on Fox News.

First Here: – 

Terrible Retail Sales Numbers, Earth To Fed’s Plosser and Greece

https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/terrible-retail-sales-numbers-earth-feds-plosser-and-greece/11641

Then Here: –

Treasury Bubble, and Worst Is Over for Banks… Not Economy: Pimco’s Gross

https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/treasury-bubble-and-worst-over-banks-not-economy-pimcos-gross/11779

Then Cat233 suddenly and miraculously became your wife on the 22nd of January 2009 on post #3 of this thread: –

Why Do You Pay Taxes?

https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/why-do-you-pay-taxes/12031

If, however, you’re inferring that Aaron Moyer is in fact Romans12.2, please disregard all of the above …

What are we playing here anyway, is it a bloody game to you or something? I’m tired of point scoring to get a point over!

Rick, you know what, I have a genuine respect for your wife, Cat. She’s a person who used to write regularly on this forum, and I miss her wise and thoughtful writing. She spoke her mind and didn’t need your input to gain traction to her point of view at all. This is what makes me sad about the bullying tactics that you seem to advocate. They are feeble and spiteful, no matter how genuine your back channelling messages have been to me in appearance.

I don’t and haven’t written here for over 850 posts to make friends. I write and read here to gain a valid review on a variety of subjects that I won’t get from mainstream media. That is all. It is my choice.

We’ll never meet and never share a beer. That’s a pity, because I liked your energy before you became judge and jury. I now hold no respect for the banner you appear to proudly ware: –

“Martenson Brigade Member”

Now lets kill thread shall we, I’ve had a gut full of it …

Well done!

~ VF ~

 

  • Wed, Mar 31, 2010 - 06:45pm

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So I guess you won’t be voting for me for Prom King?

Hope you feel better now Paul.

Been a helluva ride hasn’t it?

  • Wed, Mar 31, 2010 - 11:35pm

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[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]Paul –

Thanks for the belly laugh your last post caused.

I’m not inferring anything.  I am making a definitive statement that there are alts on this site.  I could give a rat’s ass if you believe that or find it “utterly unreal, shaming and insulting.”  Posting using an alt account and identity is self-discrediting (is that even a word?).  Your girl DarkCloud has reinvented herself no fewer than 6 times and has acted as a topical self-enabler to the point that it is in and of itself a discredit to the site and its purpose.

As to why I engaged in “notice posting” – guilty as charged but so f*cking what??  Not that it’s any of your business, but I did so at her request because she felt strongly enough about the subject material that she wanted it bumped back to the visible post list.  Remember how utile that list used to be back when we were actually discussing actionable issues and not the bullsh*t that dominates the threads now?

Whatever dynamic Cat and I discussed regarding our posts before it was known that we were husband and wife became a moot point the second I outed myself.  Neither of us have ever had any other identity on this site and what you see is what you get.  If that sticks in your craw, move on, nothing further to see here.

Cat is gone from this site because of what it turned to – a bunch of f*cking drama queens making sh*t up, practicing creative writing drills and inventing their own pet poison pills.  To what end? 

To answer your question – no this is not a game.  I’m in it to win it and I am doing exactly that.  The diversions Cloud, her alts and her ilk toss out in thread topics that are completely inactionable (yet wholly self-indulgent) are disingenuous and infuriating.  And have no doubt severly hampered the preparation efforts of those who get sucked into that game.

So seeing as how you have decided to be judge and jury with me, dude, that is entirely your choice.  A beer or a nice dram of a huge peaty Islay malt would have been nice.  Should you change your mind and the opportunity present itself, first round is on me.

As to holding no respect for my “banner” – I’ll keep that in mind in case I come up one vote short for Mr. Popularity or CM.com Prom King.  If that’s too much of a Yankee colloquialism, it translates to “I don’t give a sh*t what you think about my ‘banner’ “

Paul – my message and my approach to this site has not wavered from Day 1.  (Although my early post about applying Bayesian logic to Peak OiI was in hindsight, nauseating).  I can be an a$$h*le with the best of them.  In many cases, I have raised it to an art form.  This would be one of those cases.

Now all of that said, please don’t judge Cat based on this PM or how I approach CM.com – you know, the “sins of the father visited on the son” theme.  But her absence should speak volumes about where CM.com sits for her.

I sincerely wish you “Fair Winds and Following Seas” in all of your future pursuits – here at CM.com and elsewhere.  Our interactions have been a helluva ride for me.

Be Well,

Rick[/quote]

Politics is what it is Rick, and I’m bored of it.

[quote=Dogs_In_a_Pile]

I’m not inferring anything.  I am making a definitive statement that there are alts on this site.  I could give a rat’s ass if you believe that or find it “utterly unreal, shaming and insulting.”  Posting using an alt account and identity is self-discrediting (is that even a word?).  Your girl DarkCloud has reinvented herself no fewer than 6 times and has acted as a topical self-enabler to the point that it is in and of itself a discredit to the site and its purpose.

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What do you suppose I can do about that Rick? What on earth are you supposed to do about it, railroad other people’s threads with them writing in them? What happens to the value in them then? I see far worse being done by supposedly legitimate posters.

[quote=Dogs_In_a_Pile]

As to why I engaged in “notice posting” – guilty as charged but so fucking what??  Not that it’s any of your business, but I did so at her request because she felt strongly enough about the subject material that she wanted it bumped back to the visible post list. 

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This thread ended up being moved down to the Controversial Topics area because the writers on it were perpetually manipulated by argumentative and intolerant railroading tactics to a level of frustration that it became a free for all. It shouldn’t have ended up down here at all. Every jagged little twist of the knife that went into it was the cause.

Can’t you get it into your head that there are people writing at this forum that are scared witless and need to vent. They’re frightened of what’s coming, and in many cases don’t have a soul around them that really understand how they feel, other than those on this site. They need to express themselves in any way they know how. In your forum philosophy however, they can’t even discuss subjects of their choosing even in the Controversial Topics area, without being subjected to censoring by heavy handed hitters such as yourself. I want freedom from people like you and Aaron Moyer smashing any sense of the subjects I and others write. I want people to genuinely NOT have to simply view the mess that YOU make out of it.

When you can’t even write about actual World history, you know something is broken in a forum like this; where the politics of the site, and favouritism shine over factual content.

Think about this for a moment. If you left well alone, people would choose the subjects that best fit. If it weren’t for you two constantly bombarding thread after thread with bunk, maybe there wouldn’t be any interest in the subject at all?

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

Remember how utile that list used to be back when we were actually discussing actionable issues and not the bullsh*t that dominates the threads now?

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I remember a time when people wrote what they felt, totally unhampered, and long before you had any idea about becoming a member. How can I describe the place without your input? I think generous would describe it admirably. Now there is continual judgement sucking the joy out of the place. Now, it’s your idea as to what quality is, or what is viewed as trash that you appear inordinately driven to censor. What of a public forum with rules? The owners rules?

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

Cat is gone from this site because of what it turned to – a bunch of f*cking drama queens making sh*t up, practicing creative writing drills and inventing their own pet poison pills. To what end? 

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To what end? So leave. It’s obvious the place will never begin to be exactly how you like it? The World ain’t perfect, don’t you know. People come in different shapes and sizes, and not only the ones that fit your narrow ideal.

 Some people have honed their craft and gone on from here to do a lot better. That’s good isn’t it? Strabes, for example, makes me very proud that he survived your judgement. Well, I seem to recall some time back … ? Didn’t you learn anything from that experience?

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

To answer your question – no this is not a game.  I’m in it to win it and I am doing exactly that. 

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You’re Winning WHAT? This is Madness Man! This IS a Damned game to you Rick!

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

The diversions Cloud, her alts and her ilk toss out in thread topics that are completely inactionable (yet wholly self-indulgent) are disingenuous and infuriating.  And have no doubt severly hampered the preparation efforts of those who get sucked into that game.

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Who says you have the right to screw with this or any other subject I or anyone else writes Rick? What hampering? YOU toss topics into threads that are completely in-actionable (and wholly self-indulgent), are YOU a cut above everyone else around here or something?

I don’t much care who is writing on this forum as long as they can add something tangible to discussion. What game are people being sucked into? I see games being run rife from your corner. Judge and jury? I ask you, what is being judged, and mostly, by who exactly?

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

As to holding no respect for my “banner” – I’ll keep that in mind in case I come up one vote short for Mr. Popularity or CM.com Prom King.  If that’s too much of a Yankee colloquialism, it translates to “I don’t give a sh*t what you think about my ‘banner’ “

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How dare you waste my time. A year of watching you crush people wishing to write an alternative view. There are moderators and Chris Martenson himself that have the noble position of removing or chastising posters on this forum, not you!

This started out as a place where the brightest could shine. It’s grown some, and now has people at different levels of intelligent’s and awareness. They have to be given the space to learn and develop. The site has to evolve, not devolve. Eventually, you’re going to end up running from one end of it to the other and you’re still not going to keep up. It has to change, and if it fails its task, then more fool you for ostricizing future writers from bothering to join!

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

I can be an a$$h*le with the best of them.  In many cases, I have raised it to an art form.

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No Comment.

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

Now all of that said, please don’t judge Cat based on this PM or how I approach CM.com – you know, the “sins of the father visited on the son” theme.  But her absence should speak volumes about where CM.com sits for her.

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I have nothing but praise for Cat as I said in my previous post to you. As for her absense, if I were listening to you wining on about the forum going to hell, I’m not surprised she’s quit.

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

I sincerely wish you “Fair Winds and Following Seas” in all of your future pursuits – here at CM.com and elsewhere.  Our interactions have been a helluva ride for me.

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Why give up while we’re ahead, lets you and I add one more ride …

~ VF ~ 

  • Thu, Apr 01, 2010 - 12:58am

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May I make a suggestion?

Can we start over with the original intention of this thread in the main forum – Collapse – and let this thread die the death it desparately deserves? Many of the posters have crossed many lines both on and off the public forum, and this has become a soap opera rather than healthy debate, IMO.

As a token, I am happy to provide a copy of Collapse to anyone who has not seen it to try to get things back on track.

Can this be the last post to this thread?

Please?

  • Thu, Apr 01, 2010 - 02:14am

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[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]Paul –

Thanks for the belly laugh your last post caused.

I’m not inferring anything.  I am making a definitive statement that there are alts on this site

I sincerely wish you “Fair Winds and Following Seas” in all of your future pursuits – here at CM.com and elsewhere.  Our interactions have been a helluva ride for me.

Be Well,

Rick[/quote]

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Paul,

I am confused by this post.  If I understand it correctly, you just posted a PM from Rick to this public forum.  I can begin to describe how inappropriate that is.  If I am incorrect, please accept my apologies.

  • Thu, Apr 01, 2010 - 02:16am

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Paul 

I suggest you just take the advice in the signature. ” just pee on it and walk away”

There is absolutely nothing to be gained engaging on ANY level.

As I said previously Psyops are everywhere on the net.

Ready

I think that would be a great idea. After all Mike Ruppert has been publishing about this stuff longer than the CC has been around by a long shot. Of course the same problem exists. How do you keep the children from using their crayons on the wall? The original post was upstairs for a long time then thanks to certain posters it ended in the basement where certain posters followed it and continued to disrupt it.

As for people leaving the site I can’t say I blame them but it has happened to lots of people who got tired of seeing threads like this one hijacked. Seems like I have not seen anything of Nacchi lately. I learned a lot form him I hope he returns.

I think this site has a bias towards dispassionate analysis and a fear of passionate dialog. My feeling is if you are not passionate at his point well think about taking your pulse. Long time posters like DTM  (who I disagree with regularly ) have asked many times where is the outrage? Well it is not going to be found here and it will actively be discouraged.

So go ahead Ready start a new thread and see what happens. I will be waiting right here when it gets exiled, though I truly hope not.

V

  • Thu, Apr 01, 2010 - 03:31am

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Ready I would love a copy of collapse!  I want my husband to watch it…and the original link to it does not work anymore.

VF I loved your rant!  You are so eloquent.  I am a bailbondsmans wife from Michigan, I am not Aaron, I had no idea what “alts” were until this whole little spoof.  Why does everyone get so upset?  I have learned so greatly on this thread….you are all so forum savvy, don’t you remember what it was like when you were new?  How much you wanted to learn and read?  Don’t get all angry and stop posting – please ’cause I still have to much to learn. 

I think the reason I like DIAP is ’cause he reminds me of my own husband, very assertive 🙂

I’m trying very hard to find a thread that will teach me exactly how to prepare for both deflation and then inflation.  I mean other than buy tons of stuff, have tons of cash and also lots of PMs. Everyone says cryptic things like “I’m preparing for inflation as the end game”  or “the deflation camp knows how to best prepare”.

Anyone know where to find real answers with real facts/numbers?  I loved the recent thread about the beef….but again no one says exactly what they do to prepare. No beef.

 

 

  • Thu, Apr 01, 2010 - 05:05am

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Hey Vanity,

Thanks for posting that PM.

Very enlightening.

  • Mon, Apr 12, 2010 - 04:05pm

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