Chinese committing suicide every two minutes

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  • Thu, Dec 11, 2008 - 05:27am

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    caroline_culbert

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    Re: Chinese committing suicide every two minutes

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Dr. Bartlett did warn us that zero population growth is a mathematical certainty.  It’s too bad that this doesn’t come about from fewer births rather than too many deaths.  That seems more rational, but too many people still associate growth with prosperity.

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From an evolutionary standpoint, nothing is "rational".  I’m sorry… but if we haven’t learned, by now, how to control our own population (considering the level of our intelligence) then disease, infertility, deaths, crime, and etc. will take care of the job for us.  We have been led by our families, traditions, dogmatism, churches, and etc. into actions that we cannot reverse.  There are many types of people in this world.  How many are the types that look 5 years down the road?  What about 10 years or 20 years?  How about tomorrow?  Many are living by their two week cycle correlated with their pay periods.  I realize that many are bred into this type of life, i.e., the check-to-check life, and I don’t blame them.  But if we’re to prolong our species, then those are the people we should be educating.  We should be, from an evolutionary standpoint, invest in their education as we would our own children.  Think about it.  If you have ‘x’ number of immigrants expanding at the exponential factor of 3, and those immigrants pass down their substandard levels of education, then what happens if the exponent factor, of anyeducated family passes on their knowledge, is 2?  The result is a tremendous amount of uneducated "whoevers" roaming around making more uneducated babies.  The fact is is that the educators and the educated may be outnumber by the uneducated by a larger exponent.  For those that think this is not true, as far as census, then how does anything get passed down?  It is mostly from your parents, your extended family, your neighborhood, your friends (who are much like you), your church (where everyone like you congregates), and etc.  Those are the habits and traditions of our lives.  What then of our successors?  What might they resemble?– right, you!

Most of us wont be around to see our great great great grandchildren.  Why are we so worried about their future then?  I ask this in a rhetorical way.  Think about it…. You will only be on this planet less than 100 years.  Why care?

  • Thu, Dec 11, 2008 - 03:10pm

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    Set

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    Re: Chinese committing suicide every two minutes

“You will only be on this planet less than 100 years.  Why care?” 

As someone who has no children or plans on ever having any, I think it would be irresponsible and selfish to not care how one generation affects another.  I think those of us with enough knowledge to know the implications of careless breeding of our own species should use that knowledge to educate and even forcibly prevent people who don’t have the means to support even one child from ever having another.  The Chinese have a law that some regard as inhuman, but is actually quite rational as far as limiting human procreation.  The rest of the world would be wise to follow this model.

  • Thu, Dec 11, 2008 - 07:24pm

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    krogoth

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    Re: Chinese committing suicide every two minutes

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  The Chinese have a law that some regard as inhuman, but is actually quite rational as far as limiting human procreation.  The rest of the world would be wise to follow this model.

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Actually, China’s one child law is having some negative effects. The gender imbalance currently caused by this law, with more male babies preferred over female babies (usually aborted) will cause a larger number of men in the future. This may lead to social instability and difficulty in men finding women, thus forcing them to look to other countries for companions in the future. While I do agree with you on the limiting of human procreation, I also think it needs modification based on where it is practiced as policy and where it may be practiced in the future. The male infant preference is basically a Chinese only policy, since they are the only ones worldwide practicing this, but as others may adapt this as population control it should be done in a manner in which the balance of boy to girl infant ratio’s are much closer.

Also, the upper middle class and wealthy ignore this law altogether and have as many children as they want to. Rural enforcement is also harder considering many farmers need multiple sons to help with the planting, growing and harvesting of agriculture as well as other food producing farms such as dairy, meat, pork, and poultry.

 

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