CDC PCR testing guidelines to change for vaccinated?!*?

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  • Tue, May 11, 2021 - 11:52am

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    CDC PCR testing guidelines to change for vaccinated?!*?

I’m sure many of you here remember the article last summer where the New York Times questioned the cycle counts of PCR testing and a possible false positive rate of 90%. As I understand it, every cycle is basically a doubling of virus traces that keeps going exponentially. At the time most tests were using around 40 cycles…..remember that the inventor of PCR who hated Fauci said that if cycled enough times the test could find almost anything…..reminded him of Buddhism. Then the Who came out in January warning that weak positive tests should be carefully scrutinized.US cases dropped off a cliff pretty much that day.
https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05?fbclid=IwAR2xnpBkQlXXDHohNooWj0R_1cwlyICGz8koaGI4pKmnMaNLoJRNNlqwSVY
As I recall the sweet spot for cycling was thought to be about 33 cycles. Step forward to the other day and the CDC changed the cycle count to 28 for those vaccinated. Does this sound like some serious bullshit or what? If we had a 28 cycle test the whole pandemic how would it have affected death and infection rates?
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0PgkhGn65iR_mI_X2Mi1CSb5ytJ8coEzW-x37O382dhp5iXIi9P0eCFQ0

  • Tue, May 11, 2021 - 01:23pm

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This is really bad science when you construct the data to make it look the way you want.  That had the PCR test actually as high as 45.  AND telling people to quarantine etc, when they are actually healthy people.  This really blew up the numbers.  Now, they are doing the vaxing , they not only want to make sure that they have no false positives, they are actually even hoping to deflate the numbers , to verify effectiveness.

However, the CDC has actually even changed this “diagnosis of vaccinated.”  It is now only people who test positive and need to be hospitalized and die.  IF you are vaccinated and do not need to be hospitalized , you are not counted as having COVID no matter your symptoms or testing status.

How about that for science?

There is noway to make this less incriminating.  Big pharma and the CDC are not equity players.   There is no way to take these organizations seriously when it comes to science.   AND they expect us to take their vaccines?   Not if you are really believe in science.  But when they push them , its believe the science.   IF you are not a vaxxer, you are a science denier.   Okay.   whatever.

  • Tue, May 11, 2021 - 04:52pm

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    PCR tests unreliable according to Portuguese and Austrian Courts

Regarding PCR Test accuracy…

From a court ruling in Portugal:

An appeals court in Portugal has ruled that the PCR process is not a reliable test for Sars-Cov-2, and therefore any enforced quarantine based on those test results is unlawful.

Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests “Unreliable” & Quarantines “Unlawful”

The ruling in Portuguese: http://www.dgsi.pt/jtrl.nsf/33182fc732316039802565fa00497eec/79d6ba338dcbe5e28025861f003e7b30

And the English translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dgsi.pt%2Fjtrl.nsf%2F33182fc732316039802565fa00497eec%2F79d6ba338dcbe5e28025861f003e7b30

The actual wording of the ruling (English translation):

C. The only element that appears in the proven facts, in this respect, is the realization of RT-PCR tests, one of which presented a positive result in relation to one of the applicants.
D. In view of the current scientific evidence, this test is, in itself, unable to determine, beyond reasonable doubt, that such positivity corresponds, in fact, to the infection of a person by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, for several reasons.

And another supporting ruling in Austria:

Austrian court: PCR test not suitable for diagnosis

The ruling in Austrian: https://wp.tagesstimme.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Verwaltungsgericht_FPOe-Versammlung.pdf

 

  • Tue, May 11, 2021 - 05:14pm

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    CDC PCR testing guidelines to change for vaccinated?!*?

My understanding is that the faulty and inappropriately used PCR tests are the foundational basis for the class action lawsuits that have been launched, and which we have been discussing on the Nuremberg 2.0 forum.

This video – all in English – well explains that aspect of it.

As does this one which speaks to how the PCR test was not made for the application in which the ‘managers’ are using it.

In this exclusive interview with The New American magazine’s Senior Editor Alex Newman, world-renown German-Thai-American microbiologist Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi warns that the COVID hysteria is based on lies and that the COVID “vaccines” are set to cause a global catastrophe and a decimation of the human population. Starting off, he explains that the PCR test has been abused to produce fear in a way that is unscientific. …

 

 

  • Tue, May 11, 2021 - 07:16pm

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Thank you WCJ for this post.  The video of Dr. Bhadki confirms what many here know.  We have a “pandemic” based upon fraud.  PCR confirmed “cases” do not equate to symptomatic illness.   As the good doctor states, the PCR test with high cycle threshold could test positive for Covid those with the flu or many other illnesses.  How many untold thousands of deaths have been fraudulently attributed to Covid?

How does one share this video with those excited to have received their jab(s)?  I feel compelled to share this with friends to prevent them from getting the “booster” but they would likely think I’m a nutcase.   Do we not owe it to others to share this video…even at the risk of losing their friendship?  I have shared with family members.

The question lingers, what is their ultimate agenda?

  • Wed, May 12, 2021 - 11:00am

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    CDC PCR testing guidelines to change for vaccinated?!*?

If someone respects me enough to consider what I am saying, I will tell them about things like this. Otherwise I don’t.

If someone is most likely not going to take you seriously then no good can come from sharing these things. Be their friend, relative, or colleague, but keep some things to yourself. You get used to it. It may seem dishonest, but this is how you get along with people with different viewpoints. Not everyone is a close friend.

  • Thu, May 13, 2021 - 05:06am

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    CDC PCR testing guidelines to change for vaccinated?!*?

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I read the document and my understanding of it is that the CDC is finally trying to get a handle on the breakthrough cases of people that have received the vaccine. To do this they are requesting samples from labs doing the testing. The document that you listed are guidelines for the labs to follow when sending in the samples. Since they want good quality samples, one of the guidelines is that the sample test positive in less than 28 cycles, which would indicate that there is a lot of COVID or variant in the sample. I do not believe that this is a general change for all people that have had the vaccine.

 

  • Thu, May 13, 2021 - 11:23am   (Reply to #7)

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    CDC PCR testing guidelines to change for vaccinated?!*?

I’m not sure what to make of it, but to me it looks like they are changing the rules.

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