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  • Wed, Jun 22, 2016 - 06:13am

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    thc0655

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    Brexit or Bremain? Vote here, early and often.

It’s about 24 hours until the British vote on remaining in the EU. Will it be Brexit or Bremain?  

I say a Brexit would be too disruptive to the status quo and those who benefit from it for the elite to ALLOW it to happen. Therefore, I’m sure the vote will be Bremain, and I’m nearly as sure that the voting will be fraudulently altered as necessary.

“The Collapse” is ready for another big stair step down, a Black Swan if you will, but I don’t think it will be initiated by a popular vote.  Voting is too easy to control.  A more likely spark in my mind will be the giants fighting among themselves for the last scraps of power and wealth and inadvertently breaking something vital.

What say you?  Brexit or Bremain?

  • Wed, Jun 22, 2016 - 01:34pm

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    cmartenson

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    Bremain!

There's no question about it in my mind.  Even if 75% of the people voted for leaving, the reported tally will be 53% remain, 47% leave.

But if 86% voted to leave, then the reported result will be 53% remain, 47% leave.

Alternatively, if 53% vote to remain and 47% to leave.then the result will be 53% remain, 47% leave, and everyone can congratulate themselves on trusting democracy to deliver the right result at the right time.

  • Wed, Jun 22, 2016 - 02:00pm

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    No question

[quote=cmartenson]

There's no question about it in my mind.  Even if 75% of the people voted for leaving, the reported tally will be 53% remain, 47% leave.

[/quote]

Wonder if one of this guy's colleagues might happen to be on vacation in the UK right about now…

  • Wed, Jun 22, 2016 - 04:58pm

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    HughK

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    Bremain

I agree.  Whether due to a genuine, fair vote for Bremain or due to media manipulation leading up to an honest election or due manipulation of events, esp. the assassination of MP Cox, or due to a rigged election, the UK will stay in the EU.  

Although, the referendum would have no binding power, so even if Brexit won, Parliament would have to follow up with its own legislation to make the Brexit official, and it could water down the final outcome to something that looked like a Brexit but left the UK paying taxes to Brussels and being included in many of the existing free trade arrangements.  

I have not taken any financial positions based on a Brexit because for a while now it has seemed so unlikely.  

Also, while I think the pro-EU people in the UK have the upper hand, I do not necessarily think that it is better for the UK to exit.  I just don't understand the pros and cons to have an opinion on that complicated question.

  • Thu, Jun 23, 2016 - 10:06am

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    davefairtex

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    me too

I agree with Chris – this one is too important for Brussels to lose.

My sense is that the politicians, once they no longer are in power in their own home countries, go off to work in Brussels where they have a nice cushy job more or less for life.  Life After Domestic Politics.  That's why the main politicians are all for the EU.

I've actually taken positions that assume Remain.  I started entering after the reversal on Thursday (post assassination) and have added to them since then.

So yeah.  Remain.

Short bonds, and short volatility.  I'm less sure about short gold, but there's no way I'd be long gold at the moment.

  • Thu, Jun 23, 2016 - 01:24pm

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    M.V. Morejohn

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    Excellent Brexit interview wtih Dr. Liam Fox

The guys at RealVison TV just made this video public, and everyone should listen to this. Pippa asked all the right questions and Liam nails the issues brilliantly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZLfo5_pst8

Just wish this came out a month ago as I don't believe the Leave camp will win.

Miguel

  • Thu, Jun 23, 2016 - 04:00pm

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    thc0655

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    Brexit cartoon

  • Thu, Jun 23, 2016 - 05:03pm

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    Michael_Rudmin

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    Around here, it seems to be the opinion that EU killed MP Cox

Some might have to disagree. 

Some might think it's quite possible the EU killed Lindh. 

THEN

they killed MP Cox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Lindh

Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

Soooooooo….

It seems that this Brexit deal is really a nonissue. 

 

Oh, BTW… how exactly do you upload a picture?  I try, and instead I just get an option to link to a file already existing in the PP server.

  • Thu, Jun 23, 2016 - 07:25pm

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    New_Life

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    Bremain (voted Leave tho)

[quote=cmartenson]

There's no question about it in my mind.  Even if 75% of the people voted for leaving, the reported tally will be 53% remain, 47% leave.

But if 86% voted to leave, then the reported result will be 53% remain, 47% leave.

Alternatively, if 53% vote to remain and 47% to leave.then the result will be 53% remain, 47% leave, and everyone can congratulate themselves on trusting democracy to deliver the right result at the right time.

[/quote]

 

Too funny Chris, my prediction was for approx the same as the Scottish referendum. ie ~ 56%

Got money betting on an official turnout of >70%.  Kinda kicking myself I didnt place money on Bremain at odds of 1/2 (50% profit) at the wknd, odds now 1/8 12% profit…

Voted leave but it didn't sit comfortably knowing I was in the company of idiots and full blown racists.

To be honest this could of easily been avoided if the EU was just a trading body rather than attempting to be a political superstate.

  • Thu, Jun 23, 2016 - 07:31pm

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    New_Life

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    Betting odds

Have a look yourself, better predictor than opinion polls…

 

https://m.oddschecker.com/t/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result

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