Brazil’s P1 Covid variant stronger than Chinese Vax

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What is the cause of Brazil’s surge in Covid deaths? Partiers and a right wing Government are being blamed. But could the problem lie in the Chinese Vaccine which seems ineffective against the P1 variant? Could a weak vaccine actually exacerbate the virus spread?

 

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Geert Vanden Bossche’s explanation is stronger variants will be produced by prophylactic mass use of a vaccine during a pandemic. It isn’t that the vaccine was weak, it was that the people vaccinated hadn’t produced enough antibodies yet, at a time when the vaccine was also stifling the innate immune system and when mutants could readily jump to others. Not a weak vaccine, necessarily, but because of a weak response. It’s why he’s pleading with the international community that max vaccination stop immediately.

Is the timing in Brazil of mass vaccination consistent with the vaccine driving this result?

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After watching Case Counts rise, very recently, in Brazil & Europe, I am wondering “what happens next” in the US.

Conversely, Iceland is doing very well relative to Covid19.

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Seasonal winter viral curve swinging up in the Southern Hemisphere might be the main driver on the bus.

Watch out (smug) New Zealand and bootjack Australia.  You have little population immunity since you suppressed the spread with wrecking ball lockdowns.  You might defer colliding with the virus, but you cannot hide from it forever.

You might have a tough go if it this winter which you are soon entering.

See the presentation of Dr Byram Bridle on this very topic.





 

 

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>>>  Watch out (smug) New Zealand and bootjack Australia.  You have little population immunity since you suppressed the spread with wrecking ball lockdowns.  You might defer colliding with the virus, but you cannot hide from it forever.

 

They might have more intelligent Doctors.

e.g. Doctors that treat Covid19 outpatients with Ivermectin & Vitamin D, instead of sending them home to “Pray & see what happens” as in most of the US.

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“They might have more intelligent Doctors” ???

Except that many trying to treat with IVM and the like are threatened with jail time.

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So it kills .04% instead of .03%?

  • Tue, Mar 16, 2021 - 11:10pm   (Reply to #6)

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Group Therapy,

Bolsonaro has been actively pushing ivermectin and hydroxychlorquine. The country is floating on a sea of ivermectin. Who is throwing doctors in jail? Link?

  • Fri, May 28, 2021 - 04:33pm

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A sad sentiment shared by many Brazilians that I am seeing. It reads:

Twitter handle – Ivermectin is for lice

“Do you prefer to take the Chinese vaccine to protect yourself, or do you prefer not to take it and be sedated with Chinese Propofol, intubated with a Chinese tracheal tube and ventilated with a Chinese mechanical respirator?”


Even the very popular Átila Lamarino who I thought used to provide some good science has turned to “scientism” and politically driven information.

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Ask him how he feels about hospitals treating Covid patients with Rat Poison (blood thinners).

<strike>Tell him hospitals learned to do this from Dr Kory who is trying to teach them about Ivermectin.</strike>

Oops, I was so mad I forgot it was cortico-steroids’ Dr Kory promoted not blood thinners.

 

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