Bin Laden for President!

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  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 06:40am

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    Bin Laden for President!

Geithner for Treasury Secretary? Right.

How about Bin Laden for President?

How about Hitler for Israeli Defense Minister?

I didn’t file an income tax return (2005) because the government owed me money. Four years later, after a year-long writing sabbatical and after returning from living overseas, due to the convenient way the government (federal and state) have their information reporting systems constructed, I was being hunted by the state and the IRS, supposedly owing the state of California over $129,000; you can imagine the IRS extortion. While I was working overseas in the public school system of my chosen foreign country, attempting to present the American as a peace loving, hard working, dedicated servant to the world,  I developed a reputation in my California neigborhood for being some kind of crook because of the visits made by these corrupt organizations–hunting me as a criminal because of faulty information collecting systems that they design.

As it turned out, both agencies owe me money, and my 2004 tax return had been siezed for another mistaken assessment that was made without any explanation to me–just a notice that they were taking it.This is how things work if you’re one of the "small" people.

Now we have a candidate for Treasury Secretary who knowingly failed to pay his taxes for…4?…years? And there is no outrage? There should be burning effigies! But that would not be sufficient. There should be jail time. This was no casual mistake.

WTF!?

I predict: if this alleged criminal is confirmed, the U.S. will self destruct within weeks, for surely any hope that there are remnants of the legal foundation upon which our country was founded still in effect will be realized as an utterly quaint and vain reminiscence of the lies our parents tried to tell us about the value of honesty.

If there is a lawyer out there that would like to handle a defamation of character case against the U.S.of A. and the state of California, you can get my email address from Chris Martenson.

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 07:00am

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I would also add to this the now 2nd appeal to the Supreme Court against Obama for not being a citizen, largely based on the fact that he won’t produce a birth certificate. Does anyone else know any more about this situation? If (and it’s a big if) the Supreme Court actually found Obama Unconstitutionally eligible as President, can you imagine what that might mean? I think we would be on the verge of a racial civil war and (unfortunately) a Constitutional Crisis.

I only recently found out how many armed agents work for the IRS. You can just youtube the videos of them wrongly raiding small businesses and refusing to return the confiscated (stolen) property, even after it is proven that the IRS is in error. Many people fear the IRS.

Just to take the historical angle yet again, let us remember the status of the tax collector in Roman Society: not very well liked. And many would say the Roman Empire fell in large part due to its inability to run itself without greatly increasing the taxes. Unjust taxes played a central role in our own Revolution.

It’s a little surreal to think about, and I know the status quo is very strong, but something really tells me that this is it.

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 07:59am

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/opinion/15thu1.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

"According to the report, when Mr. Geithner’s tax returns for 2003 and 2004 were audited by the I.R.S. in 2006, the auditors found that he had failed to pay self-employment tax in those years… The story does not stop there. Mr. Geithner also failed to pay the self-employment tax in 2001 and 2002. Those returns, which the report says Mr. Geithner prepared himself, were not audited and so the I.R.S. did not order him to pay up — which raises the question of why he did not voluntarily amend those returns and pay the taxes and interest at the time of the 2006 audit. Instead, he waited until after vetting by the Obama team late last year revealed the shortfall — $19,176 in taxes and $6,794 in interest."

 http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/730-Heh-CONgress-Wake-Up!.html

"You expect us to accept a new Treasury Secretary (after the old one who was responsible for a big part of our economic mess) who despite being told in writing annually by the IMF that he was responsible for both halves of FICA and Medicare did not pay for four years – tens of thousands of dollars.  He was eventually audited and caught for two of them – the IRS did not look at the other two years and he did not confess.  It was not until he was tapped to be Treasury Secretary that he admitted to and paid the back taxes.  Are you really going to confirm a new head of the IRS who’s PERSONAL MORAL CODE on taxation appears to be "Cheat on your taxes and pay only if audited and caught – and then only to the extent you are caught", but expect that WE THE PEOPLE will simply pay what we owe?  I predict a dramatic increase in unlawful tax avoidance if you confirm Geithner.  Can the US afford mass tax protests?"

What has the world come to when I agree with something Rush Limbaugh said?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011409/content/01125109.guest.html 

"Now, just like when Rahm Emanuel’s dealings with Blagojevich, Obama has thoroughly reviewed Treasury secretary select’s Timothy Geithner’s situation and given it his blessing.  Everything’s okay!  Obama has cleared his nominee again, so I’m glad that’s over.  Having a guy in charge of the IRS with multiple tax issues might have sullied the Immaculate Inauguration, but now that Barack Obama has determined it won’t be a problem, it won’t be a problem.  But it was close. It was a close one.  Here’s my question.  If Hillary Clinton’s massive conflicts and political payoffs don’t bother Obama or his fellow Washingtonians, why should Timothy Geithner’s failure to pay taxes bother anybody? Rahm Emanuel’s frequent contacts with governor cesspool, they didn’t bother Obama."  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/01/09/DI2009010903168.html

"I don’t see how Geithner can fill the treasury secretary job. Nonpayment of self employment taxes by any IRS employee means dismissal, by law, no matter what the excuse."

A BIG P.S.

For the first time in my life, I am beginning to comprehend the concept of a "world not worth living in," and the personal philosophy of "live free or die." This is how corrupt our nation’s government has become: it has introduced me to the desperate hoplessness (in some initial, glancing way) that has driven population after poplulation of the oppressed and exploited, generation after generation throughout history, to find death a preferable alternative to the status quo…

The greatest song ever written, in my estimation, is John Lennon’s Imagine. I teach all my students this song overseas; we talk about the meaning of it.  I would like to add a stanza or two:

"Imagine there’s no Wall Street

It’s easy if you’re armed

No crooks among us

Around us no more cons

Imagine all the people

Keeping all they earn…youhoo…

You may say I’m a dreamer

But I’m not the only one

I hope someday you join us

As a  jury who’ll convict these cons…"

I, personally, have already given up on America and am abandoning it in favor of what I believe to be a better place. However, I fear what those who are "armed" are going to do to those who just Don’t Get It Even Yet–as they attempt to install a man who knowingly avoided paying taxes to a position which governs the collections of taxes…

As Karl Denninger says, "I predict a dramatic increase in unlawful tax avoidance…"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEmoZPNMc90&feature=channel_page

 

 

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 08:17am

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Nonzeroone,

I’m beginning to tire of these posts of yours, which seem lately to be mostly a stream of angry statements and angry analogies recounting how bad the world is, how its collapse is imminent, and how this person or that person or the whole society ought to be jailed, disbarred, dethroned, defenestrated, or otherwise done away with.

I hate to sound like Dr. Phil, but there’s really nothing whatsoever that can come of this angry negativity.  There are really only two ways that a person can respond to your post above.  The first is to say, "Yes, you sure are right, Nonzeroone: the world sucks, the system sucks, people suck.  Tear it down.  Tear it all down.  To hell with everything."  The second is to say, "Take a deep breath and come back to the keyboard when you’re feeling more constructive."

Well I’m choosing the second option.   The purpose of these forums is not to provide support and encouragement for your expessions of personal dissatisfaction with the world. 

I have something to tell you: everybody here is perfectly aware of what is wrong with the world.  Sometimes it makes us angry. When it does, we’re generally courteous enough to avoid exposing other users to it.  We come back when we have an actual constructive and helpful thing to say. After a night of hard drinking, people are expected to comb their hair,
wash their faces, and clean their own vomit off of themselves before coming back in public.  When you’re angry, you ought to do the same (metaphorically speaking) before you start writing.

If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion aside from the belief that the world is circling the bowl, then my suggestion is that you find a cabin in rural Montana and begin stockpiling ammunition and muttering angrily to yourself.

If you have something constructive to share with us other than anger, then please do so, and find another way to vent your anger rather than always into the ears of other users.

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 08:51am

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jrf29,

Spanking accepted…

Though as you can see, I’m not the only one with an opinion on Geithner.

Wanna bet a buck that he doesn’t get confirmed due to people like me as opposed to calm people like you?

P.S. What if I’m right? Would you like to compare posts about financial market predicitons for the past ten years?

P.P.S. Since I haven’t read any of your opinions lately, I can’t really respond to your implied message that you are making a contribution, whereas I am just whining.

As I’ve told several people here in private emails–and the hundred or so people that called me over the weekend when I posted my real phone number, I believe there is value in demonstrating just how angry some of us are with the corruption that has become our government and Wall Street.

Which house do you think the criminal is going to target, the one with the pit bull chained to the Harley or the one with the poodle in a pink sweater?

Where do you work?

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 09:39am

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[quote=Nonzeroone]

Wanna bet a buck that he doesn’t get confirmed due to people like me as opposed to calm people like you? [/quote]

Public passion doesn’t really matter, I don’t think.  The bailout votes taught us that.  The backroom negotiations and deals in the offices of the party bosses are driven entirely by cool calculations of how many votes and how much campaign money (votes-in-a-bottle) will ultimately be gained or lost.  The anger of the voters is often played upon, but in the end only the hard numbers matter.  The calm voter who votes against a candidate is just as damaging as the ill-tempered one. 

Of course for the rank and file representative, the decision to vote against their party leadership’s chosen candidate is restrained mostly by fear of being shut out of gov’t spending for their district by the committees (and hence lose votes).  A senator who doesn’t "bring home the bacon" is often voted out of office.  The uninformed voters who vote him out of office do not know that the reason why he is not "bringing home the bacon" is because he is being punished by his own party for voting his conscience. That’s why the voters need education, not just anger.

[quote] …whereas I am just whining [/quote]

I don’t claim that my contributions are particularly valuable.  If
I’d contributed something spectacular, I assume somebody would have
told me.  Really I’m just chewing the fat. But let me be clear: the reason why I wrote you is because you usually don’t "just whine." You just seem lately to be angrier than usual.  If you hadn’t made many positive contributions in the past, I wouldn’t have bothered talking to you at all.

 

[quote] As I’ve told several people here in private emails–and the hundred or so people that called me over the weekend when I posted my real phone number, I believe there is value in demonstrating just how angry some of us are with the corruption that has become our government and Wall Street. [/quote]

Maybe so. Personally I don’t like the way anger makes me feel.  I’m convinced it’s not healthy.  Instead I write letters to my representatives calmly telling people how upset I am.  If need be, I’ll pretend to be angry.  All of the benefits, none of the side effects 🙂

 

[quote] Which house do you think the criminal is going to target, the one with the pit bull chained to the Harley or the one with the poodle in a pink sweater? [/quote]  I’ve never said anything against a person’s right to defend themselves.  A person who does not properly provide for their own defense, and by extension the common defense, is negligent in their duty to themselves and to their community.  One doesn’t need anger to provide for their defense, though.

[quote] Where do you work? [/quote] I work in the factory that makes the little pink sweaters for the poodles….we have a pit bull out front.

 

Pleasure talking with you again, Nonzeroone.

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 09:39am

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jrf29,

Damn you! No matter how hard I try, I just can’t get mad at you. Thought you might get a laugh out of this:

 jrf29

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 09:42am

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😀

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 10:43am

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I think the anger is useful to the extent it stirs you to action. As soon as the anger really rises, it’s time to do something constructive about it, like protest or call Congress (202-224-3121). I’m very disappointed in our system, just like everyone else. But I won’t go down without a fight, even if ‘fight’ simply means that I’m kicking and screaming the truth. But I do agree that most people on this site, already feel the same way so it’s most effective to channel the frustration towards another avenue.

It’s really sad to hear how the US has practically deserted you, nonzeroone, particularly as you attempt to repair our image overseas. I’ve found myself in a similar situation a couple times, and I know I’ve been more welcomed overseas than the US would have been to foreigners here.

I can also sympathize with nonzero on the fact that we have a system that seems to crush dissent pretty effectively. It will take a monumental effort to change the status quo and my hope is that it can be done without some sort of violent Revolution. That’s where this site comes in. But the only way this will work is to continue to educate and spread the message. After a while, we all are beating dead horses preaching to each other. I know I’m guilty of it at times.

Mike

  • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 10:59am

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[quote]I would also add to this the now 2nd appeal to the Supreme Court against Obama for not being a citizen, largely based on the fact that he won’t produce a birth certificate.[/quote]

John McCain was born in Panama.

 

Barrack Obama’s mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth.

 

Osama bin Laden is not eligible by birth to run for President.

 

Nonzeroone wants sympathy because he ducked out on his taxes and then fled the country. Good luck.

 

Nothing to see here folks. Just move along.  

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