Best Article I Have Seen on Vaccine – Please Read

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  • Sat, Apr 17, 2021 - 03:05pm

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    Island girl

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    Best Article I Have Seen on Vaccine – Please Read

One concern I have long had is the fact that these experimental gene therapy “vaccines” force our bodies to manufacture the spike protein. My concern is that the spike protein itself is biologically active.  There is evidence of spike protein in pathological tissue of the heart, brain and other organ tissues in severe COVID, in the absence of complete viral particles, as far as understand it.  The microthrombosis (minute blood clots) in severe COVID I believe was also linked to activity of the spike protein (don’t have a reference).  That makes me wonder what happens if spike protein manufactured by our own cells in response to the vaccine could enter the blood stream and be responsible for unanticipated effects, like the clots with a backround of reduced platelet count seen in Oxford-AZ and JnJ DNA vaccines, or the prolonged heavy menstrual periods some women are experiencing after the vaccine.

  • Sat, Apr 17, 2021 - 03:42pm

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Island Girl,

You wrote:

My concern is that the spike protein itself is biologically active.

I believe that it was Michael Yeadon who said that. The spike fuses blood cells together giving rise to the blood clotting.

I looked for cite but I could not find it.

  • Sat, Apr 17, 2021 - 05:28pm   (Reply to #37)

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Yggdrasil wrote:

2) If you get Covid then you are more likely to have severe Covid if you take the vaccine, see below:

Placebo group: 162 people caught Covid, with 3 of those being a severe case: 3/162 = 1.85%

Vaccine group: 8 people caught Covid, with 1 of those being a severe case: 1/8 = 12.5%

Yggdrasil, you are using the wrong numbers.

In the vaccine group 1 in 18,198 had a severe case. That is 0.0054951%

In the control group 3 in 18,325 had a severe case. That is 0.0163711%.

The people in the vaccine group were less likely to develop a severe case. That means the vaccine was most likely working as intended. Nothing to see here.

  • Sat, Apr 17, 2021 - 05:56pm

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    Thank you OOG for this link

I have shared with numerous people.  Unfortunately many don’t want to hear the truth about covid.  Sheeple being guarded by lions.

Lest we forget Saul Alinsky’s first and most important rule for radicals in creating a Socialist state:

“Control the healthcare and you control the people”

https://bolenreport.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-radicals/

 

  • Sat, Apr 17, 2021 - 06:42pm   (Reply to #37)

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We can’t really say anything about severe covid with or without the vaccine.  The sample was too small. The results were far from statistically significant. Only 1 person who got the vaccine and 3 who did not ended up with severe disease.

Of course there are those suspected cases among vaccine recipients that were never tested and therefore not counted, but those were very mild cases if I remember correctly – a risk for transmission though.

  • Sun, Apr 18, 2021 - 06:24am

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Island Girl @52

This link was on another forum I visit occasionally. Seems relevant: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827936/

“SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Elicits Cell Signaling in Human Host Cells: Implications for Possible Consequences of COVID-19 Vaccines”

  • Sun, Apr 18, 2021 - 06:57am   (Reply to #37)

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    No, you missed the point

Hotsauce:

Yggdrasil, you are using the wrong numbers.

In the vaccine group 1 in 18,198 had a severe case. That is 0.0054951%

In the control group 3 in 18,325 had a severe case. That is 0.0163711%.

The people in the vaccine group were less likely to develop a severe case. That means the vaccine was most likely working as intended. Nothing to see here.

No, I’m not talking about total participants. I am talking about those who caught covid during the trial in relation to severe effects. Hence my question, why does the Pfizer vaccine make severe outcomes more likely if you catch Covid? Do you have an answer?

 

  • Sun, Apr 18, 2021 - 07:14am

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    Also, I’d like to get my hands on this study

https://www.timesofisrael.com/real-world-israeli-data-shows-south-african-variant-better-at-bypassing-vaccine/

In their study, the prevalence of the South African strain among vaccinated individuals who were infected despite their inoculation was eight times higher than its prevalence in the unvaccinated infected population. Though the number of such infections among the vaccinated was relatively small, the findings indicated that this variant was far more successful in getting through vaccinated individuals’ defenses than other strains.

“Based on patterns in the general population, we would have expected just one case of the South African variant, but we saw eight,” Prof. Adi Stern, who headed the research, told The Times of Israel. “Obviously, this result didn’t make me happy.”

So does this mean the vaccinated now have to get continually vaccinated for new variants whereas the unvaccinated should stay unvaccinated?

  • Tue, Apr 20, 2021 - 02:25pm

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So given No. 9 (vaccine doesn’t stop transmission or infection) and No. 10 (the vaccinated can still get Covid), how does vaccination contribute to “herd immunity?”   In other words, if all vaccine does in lower the impact of symptoms (but see #37 and #58 above), does it create immunity at all?

  • Tue, Apr 20, 2021 - 02:53pm

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    Another possible vaccine reaction

I am sitting in the ER with my wife. Here are two texts I sent my mom:

Overheard conversation in the ER. 40s ish woman. Spontaneous bruising, intermittent fever, swelling (not sure where) nasty headache. All after receiving vaccine. No history of bruising like this.

And:

What do you know? Easy bruising is a sign of possible clotting issues. What are the odds? I’ve seen/ heard enough today to know 4 people’s issues. 2 obvious impact injuries. One Covid pneumonia ( intubated) and this. Excuse me, but 5 cases of clotting per million doses and elephants fly.

Capital district has at best 100000 recent vaccinations. That should be 0.5 cases but I am being generous. And I am in just the right place at just the right time to overhear it?

 

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