Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and beliefs with family and friends

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  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 08:27pm

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    Re: Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and …

My response is “I would sooner be mad than right”

More and more people seem to waking up though, it just depends whether they are open to asking the right questions.

As an aside, the BBC have been showing two series, one titled the Victorian Farmer and the other looking at life for civilians in WW2 using real people who live the experience.  Is the education wrt looking back or forward I ask myself.Undecided

 

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 08:58pm

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welcome, friend.  I get the same reaction with most of the people I introduce the CC to.  Try not to take it personally, and be proud that you tried to do the right thing.  Even if this does not go down during our lifespan, we all know that common sense and restraint and self-sufficiency never goes out of style……

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 09:35pm

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    Being Prudent

 Matt/Nancy

It sounds like everything you have done is quite prudent, whether there is a collapse in our future or not. Use the “non-believers” in your life as a context in which to judge your point of view. Its easy to go overboard with the “preparation for the end” mindset. Use the nay-saying to help you find a balance in your personal perspective. If these people in your life mean something to you, then make sure that you keep an open mind (and ear) to what they are trying to tell you. Personally, I value the opinions of my family and friends more than I do the opinions of people that I have never met face to face and looked in the eye

Prudentacting with or showing care and thought for the future. (whether that future is “ours” or “theirs” or somewhere in between)

All the best…Jeff

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 11:34pm

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Welcome to the club, and thank you for starting this thread.  I experience it every day, especially out here in LA LA land California.  It’s become almost comical to me during conversations with the “unaware” when I point out reality and am labeled as the doom and gloom guy.  Just today someone said during lunch how they “feel” things are just getting so much better with the economy and how much “hope” they have for the future.  They proceeded to lecture me on how I should just take a more positive and optimistic viewpoint.  You can imagine where the conversation went when I said that I have chosen not to bury my he head in the sand and actually started doing something about it 18 months ago.  Although many of my closest friendships have been strained because for whatever reason I pose a threat to their way of thinking, I find solace here at CM in knowing all of you are out there.  Keep on trusting yourselves!

Cheers.

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[quote=livio]They proceeded to lecture me on how I should just take a more positive and optimistic viewpoint[/quote]

Ya know I think that’s a step in the right direction because at least they have a friggin thought, they can engage the conversation no matter how wrong they are…it seems they could potentially wakeup if somebody presented the basic math to them about exponential money.  Most people I encounter can’t engage.  It just can’t compute in their heads.  If you’re talking about the NFL games from last weekend, they’re all over it, but talk about money, banks, economics, and they’re like “uhhhh…wanna play XBOX?” like Beavis & Butthead.

 

  • Tue, Oct 20, 2009 - 04:56am

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Matt & Nancy,

As everyone else has been saying, we all experience the rejection when we’re trying to warn them. I try to be careful to not sound like an OT prophet and preach doom to them.  And, I’m real careful to quickly tell my church friends that I don’t think this is “the end.”  Rather, I say it will be similar to the great depression.  Life still goes on but those people had a hard life for a while. 

Yes, it does get VERY frustrating when those who you care about don’t want to look at the facts and ignore what’s happening. However, one of the most encouraging things someone pointed out to me is this: When it becomes obvious that the economy is crashing around us, they will come to you for advice. And, you have the advantage of time, both from an emotional and learning viewpoint.  You have already gone through the emotions of “Is this really happening?” and “Panic, panic… what do I do now?”   They will not be thinking straight and you can help them get to the next step (whatever that will be at the time) faster than others around them.  For example, gold might already be at $2,000 an once and rising but you can help them buy it quickly before it gets any higher.  You’ve already done the research and know how to buy gold and from whom.  You will save them a lot of time which could matter a lot.  Only a few days head start in front of the masses would help them out a lot. I try to keep this in mind as I continue to learn and be aware of the situations around us.

I hope this helps you. I does me.

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    Re: Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and …

Thank you all for your responses to this thread. It does help to know that others have experienced some of the same things that I have. One thing that I take comfort in is that all the preparations that we have made regardless of the future outcome of our economy will have positive effects for our family. Also I am very grateful of my supportive wife who is on board 100%. I also appreciate the support I receive here on the CM site.

 

Thanks Again,

Matt

  • Wed, Oct 21, 2009 - 02:48pm

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[quote=bearmarkettrader]I for one cant wait for the current system to come to a end as the corruption and arrogance and deceit coming at the top is so frustrating. At least in feudal times the serfs knew that they were serfs and also knew that the nobility was the nobility. Now, the serfs are constantly lied to and think they are middle class but little do they know that they are on the road to serfdom quickly.[/quote]

That sounds like a pretty sick thing to say.  That’s like saying “I can’t wait for this massive hurricane to hurry up and get here because I’m tired of being hunkered down and I want to go swimming again.” It is something that I know is inevitable and I certainly hate the anxiety of waiting for it but I do not look forward to it happening. I wish things could “go back to 2005” and stay that way but I understand the reality. Please learn to enjoy the “good times” now because they won’t last instead of looking forward to worse times. I hope when the SHTF that you and your family are protected from the chaos and anarchy that may come from the crash and I hope at the time that you’re not revelling in enjoyment at the downfall of our country and the loss of lives and livelihoods of the majority of Americans. Just because someone knew he was a serf in feudal times did not make his standard of living better than the “serfs” of today. Things were pretty rough back then.

I have tried to spread the word to at least a dozen people, friends, family and coworkers. Other than my wife (thank God!) I think only 1 person has really bothered to try to prepare. The rest are in denial and sick of my “attitude”. I had some family members get mad at us for “forcing” them to buy silver last year when it was high. It has since gone down in value and now I’m the bad guy giving bad investment advice. It doesn’t matter that I explain why they’re actually buying silver and it isn’t because it such a great investment. My neighbors barely speak to me anymore since trying to get them to watch the CC. People at work call me the “Doom & Gloom Guy”. The thing I find soooooo ironic is how easily these people will put faith in religion, something they have no first hand experience about since they did not live 2,000 years ago. They must take it on face value that what has been written and translated over and over is truly “The Word”. But when you try to show them real facts and real evidence that says “the next 20 years will be very different than the last 20 years” they cannot accept it. It’s easier to believe a minister than cold hard facts.

I no longer care what other people think or do for themselves. The only thing that matters to me now is preparing for my immediate family’s future. That means my wife and children only. The brothers and sisters, parents, aunts, uncles and friends have all been warned, repeatedly. There is nothing more I can do to help them. When they come knocking on my door looking for food and shelter, well that’s one of the reasons I now own a gun. I’m sorry to say it but I cannot help everyone.

On the other hand, maybe I should be glad no one gets it. Afterall, our fiat system is based on faith. When all the people lose faith it will come crashing down. Their faith in this dying system prolongs it and gives me more time to prepare and enjoy the world as it is today before it is all gone.

  • Wed, Oct 21, 2009 - 03:31pm

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I find it strange how many people see the Crash Course concepts as doom and gloom when I see my perception of the next 20 years as just the way it is and am going about my life in preparation for where we are going. I am actually quite happy about having a direction to take and plan in place. In fact I feel much better about our future knowing more of the facts rather than just having a sense of foreboding knowing that many things are not right, but not being able to tie the pieces together.

A typical response I hear is that I don’t want to hear “that stuff” because I can’t focus on my job (especially sales) with an optimistic outlook and consequently I will fail. I try to get then idea across that with knowledge we are all able to to  a better job by applying what we know to our workplace, however, I usually get a blank stare.

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  • Wed, Oct 21, 2009 - 11:17pm

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I have learned to be very cautious in who I engage in this conversation due to lack of interest and disbelief. I now have an idea of what I will say next time I do engage and find some incredulity. I will pose a question like: How do we get out of this debt? Whatever the answer is, I will pose another question. For instance, if they say we’ll pay it back over time,  then ask “How?”  in order to make people think about it. Maybe that will work. Can’t hurt.

 

 

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