Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and beliefs with family and friends

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  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 12:31am

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    Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and beliefs with family and friends

First of all I thank God that my brother shared the Crash Course with me. I have taken the red pill and it has changed my life forever. Since then I have been able to share the crash course with several family members and friends over the past year. Many of these people I consider to be very intelligent and are people I care about. What I have found is that most times I get the vibe that they think I am some kind of nut or some will say there is nothing we can do about it. Meanwhile while my family has become debt free, have a good size food pantry, have significantly addressed our protection needs, and have acquired PMs. While they continue to live as if there is no tomorrow, increasing their debt obligations. Many have made the argument that over time the stock market will provide healthy returns, housing prices over time always go up and that the US will always be the world’s super power. With the DOW recently breaking 10,000 I have had several of them tell me that I am missing the boat and I will rue the day that I lost all trust in the markets and banks. While others opinions have never really affected me personally I still care for these people and worry that they will one day be sadly mistaken. The dilemma is that if everything that I have been preparing for does happen ( which I believe it will ) I believe that many of my family members will then be at my door step expecting me to help them out. I have a wife and two sons, one of which is handicapped I do not have the money nor the storage space to prepare for those other than my immediate family. I believe that if that day comes it will be very hard to turn them away but my responsibilities are to my wife and children first.

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 12:50am

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    Re: Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and …

Better to be prepared and not need it than need it and not be prepared.  The consequences of not being prepared could be dire.

Ask them how they felt last November.  That feeling is not worth the risk to me.  Everyone has to make their own decisions.  Personally, I refuse to allow Wall Street to have my money to play with anymore and I am satisfied with that decision.

If the time should come that your family needs your help, you will find a way yo help them in some degree.  I agree that immediate family is first.

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 01:23am

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    Re: Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and …

I’m baffled by the hype over the DOW reaching 10,000……. it did this in 1999, or in other words has gone NOWHERE in 10 years!

Greedy gambling…… that’s all all that investing stuff is. Once you’ve got everything you need to survive…… well you don’t need any more now do you?

Mike

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 03:09am

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    Re: Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and …

Welcome to the Club, Matt . . . We are nuts . . . But that’s beside the point . . .

In this world, in the end, you’ll only have yourself to answer to . . . so diligently seek the truth, and act on it . . . Others may or may not follow . . . That doesn’t change the course that you’re on, or the outcome. 

With regard to oasis-crashing family . . . Yeah, that’s a drag . . . For myself, I deal with that prospect thusly:

1)  I put up more than my immediate family will need.

2)  I do my best to wake my family and friends up, and to get them to act.

3)  If that produces no results, I put them on a reality notice that I won’t be able to help them much after their error becomes undeniable and irreparable.

 

So, how it worked in my house was thus:  Our nearest relatives, my inlaws, after an initial panic during the crash last fall, had fallen back into apathy, and were even  bitching (behind our backs, of course) about how “crazy” all of our preparations were.  So, after mulling this over, one day, we put this ultimatum to them:  In so many words, we told them that the Ark door was closing, and that, if they wanted a ticket to be on board, they’d better get their heinies in gear, and start pitching in.  They aren’t much for bucks, so we didn’t require a financial contribution from them.   However, they’re still capable of light work, so, instead of shouldering everything ourselves, for the four of us, we divvied up jobs.  Mom got promoted to Food Prep Czar.  She is responsible for locating, collecting, and preparing food for canning and preserving by other methods.  Dad was appointed Garden Soil Czar.  His current responsibility is to see to it that the gardens are prepared, each season, as needed.  Hubby handles all of the building and remodelling, including remodelling our home so that we can shoehorn the inlaws in here, when need be.  My job is to plan, finance, and procure, and to make sure that everyone has what they need, in materials, equipment, tools, and knowledge, to get their jobs done.  I also handle all of the horticulture.  Of course, this is highly oversimplified, but you get the picture . . .

The result?  So far, so good.  Surprisingly, the bitching has stopped, and they are both enthusiastically on board . . . In fact, they seem to be thriving on taking some action, and on being part of an extended family, in a very concrete manner.  They also seem to respond well to being the “boss” of their own territory . . . I think that’s a role that our oldsters kind of miss . . . With the world changing so quickly, and the general disregard that older folks get in our “modern” society, they don’t get enough sense of dignity and authority, in the normal course of things.  Though we jokingly call them “czars”, I can tell that they secretly get a bit of a charge out of it. 

Anyway, I don’t know whether this helps in any way, for your situation . . . For us, a “You’re in or you’re out” edict was useful . . . but then, that’s a hat that fits me well . . .

 

PS:  If anyone repeats a word of this to my inlaws, you’ll have to face The [Cloud]Fire . . . . Wink . . . So, mum’s the word. Sealed. . .

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 06:34am

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    The ones that listen are…

in their 70’s and 80’s.

My Aunt and her friends can see and understand what is going on.

I talk to them and show them what is happening and they get it!

Why? Because they lived through a depression and WW2 and saw the propaganda back then and what resulted.

The have also seen many governments come and go and political oppression, revolution and martial law.

History is their teacher.

Soon it will become ours… but too late for many I fear.

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 07:00am

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    Re: Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and …

Welcome friend!

I completely understand your frustration. In fact, only 2 of my friends have watched the crashcourse. One of them rejected it and the other has knowledge. The rest of them are sleeping. Its sad too because most of my network of people have JD’s, PHD’s, BA’s, MBA’s etc etc. Its almost as if this class of people will be less prepared then the blue collar man. Strange, how people who work at gas stations have a “feeling” that things will get worse whereas my college educated friends think they are smart cus they read CNN MSN FOX DRUDGE REPORT. Dare the educated types trust a site such as CM or Zerohedge, Calculated risk, Mish.

As CM says in the crash course: first the truth is laughed at, then opposed, then accepted as self evident. Most people today are in the laughing phase. Once you realize that people who dont care for the truth dont DESERVE to know the truth, you wont care about them thinking your crazy or for caring whether they know or not. Its sounds cold hearted by tough. The information is out there on the net for all to see. What, are we some geniouses for finding these sites? No, we just ask questions, we dont believe what the MSM says. We seek truth.

All of us here in the CM community have different beliefs on what the future will look like. Some see it as dark and impoverished, others see a slow decline. Others see a great depression II. Either way, most of us here can agree that based on the facts of unsustainable debt, money printing, limitied cheap oil supply, future US liabilities, we know that the next 20 years wont look anything like the past 20 years. We know that inflation will cause severe hardship to many. We know that our money system of exponential debt will hit a wall sooner or later (as it may already had hit the wall).

The only advice i can give all who read this post is this: things will change for the worse but we can still be optimistic and happy. We could prepare and at the same time hope that things could get better. We can learn many new things about living on a smaller scale. The relationships we make on this journey will be strong as the truth and integrity bind us together. I for one cant wait for the current system to come to a end as the corruption and arrogance and deceit coming at the top is so frustrating. At least in feudal times the serfs knew that they were serfs and also knew that the nobility was the nobility. Now, the serfs are constantly lied to and think they are middle class but little do they know that they are on the road to serfdom quickly.

Whether the outcome is a 5 year depression or a 30 year paradigm shift at least we will be physically, mentally, emotionally prepared. Let the sheep depend on CNN then.

 

The bear

 

 

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 07:30am

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[quote]most of my network of people have JD’s, PHD’s, BA’s, MBA’s etc etc. Its almost as if this class of people will be less prepared then the blue collar man[/quote]

The JDs and MBAs are the worst.  They’re establishment thinkers…the elite’s worker bees that have created the exponential system of debt, banking, corporations.  In some ways they’re the most indoctrinated since the pavlovian system rewards the A students the most, so of course they’re going to be the last capable of waking up to how they’ve been used. Some will continue to be used as the system collapses because the elite will need to maintain a portion of the corporate system to maintain the pyramid…much like they’re doing in China…a small corporate class to run things…everyone else is a serf.

[quote]I for one cant wait for the current system to come to a end as the corruption and arrogance and deceit coming at the top is so frustrating.[/quote]

Agreed.  Looking forward to the collapse.  I just hope it really collapses instead of being morphed into the next phase of control the elite is planning–global banking and government–because that elite is responsible for the unsustainable system in the first place.  They should be punished.  

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I just hope it really collapses instead of being morphed into the next phase of control the elite is planning–global banking and government–because that elite is responsible for the unsustainable system in the first place.  

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Now, that’s what I’m talking about . . . .

  • Mon, Oct 19, 2009 - 08:04pm

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    Re: Being labeled a nut after sharing the Crash Course and …

Matt Welcome to the club,

We all have gotten that.  People do not want to beleive change is coming  even if the proof is in there face with facts.  They want predictable, even if predictable is horrible. 

Good luck on your journey in the time to come.

 

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Yes Matt — keep your chin up, man.  I mostly get denial from the people around me, apart from those already in on the Reality of Coming Things.  When I tell my brother that if TSHTF he & his family can come stay with us, at least he just nods instead of giving me his “things are just going to go sideways for awhile” monologue (like he used to last year)…

Viva — Sager

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