Attn: Anyone Interested in saying No to COVAXing

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  • Sat, Oct 24, 2020 - 08:35am



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    Attn: Anyone Interested in saying No to COVAXing

Good Morning

I found this the other day.  I cannot find the link again-perhaps it has been taken down. I have included the text as such.

I have no idea how much use this statement can be but this was recommended to have on hand- printed out -to be ready for a possible attempt at mandatory vaccinations.

I do not know if this has legal foundings so perhaps anyone in law can help.

I personally have had vaccines and have allowed them for my children in the past.

We are in a new time… and to not want the COVID vax does not make one anti- vaccine. Something obvious to many but not to all.

If this statement below seems unseaworthy, perhaps people can lead us to something better.

Clarity of vision is difficult.  Being one step ahead normally proves of value.

Complete lack of government trust -shaped by their own doing/misdoing, sadly makes such planning needed.



I do not know what is in your vaccine.

I do not believe your vaccine is safe.

I know that many vaccines have been found to contain toxic adjuvants and toxic foreign materials.

I know that toxic contamination is present in vaccines which are easily preventable with current technology. This suggests intentional contamination of vaccines with toxic agents.

I know that many vaccines are not effective and actually cause the ailment they are purported to mitigate.

I know that adjuvants are put into vaccines to “shock” the immune system into extreme response, and that causes biological “crisis”, stress and damage to the immune system, the blood and the whole body.

I know that vaccine death and injury statistics and information are suppressed by media which receives billions of dollars in pharma advertising annually.

I know that vaccine death and injury statistics and information are suppressed by government in which pharmaceutical regulatory agencies are largely run and controlled by pharma industry executives, loyalists and lobbyists.

I know that vaccines kill hundreds of thousands of people per year.

I am aware of reports that vaccine experiments have caused tens of thousands of cases of sterilization, polio, autism and other diseases and injuries globally.

I know that vaccines are so hazardous that the vaccine industry lobbied for, and received immunity from the harm vaccines are causing.

I know that taxpayers have paid billions of dollars to families who’s members were injured or killed by vaccines.

I do not trust the vaccine industry, government agencies or international agencies which seem to be acting on behalf of vaccine sales and promotion and suppressing information of vaccine hazards.

I know that most vaccines have not been tested or proven safe.

I know that under current law all physicians and healthcare workers must have my consent to administer medicine to me. My consent is hereby denied and refused.

I know that if someone is not a doctor, such as an elected official or bureaucrat, they may not administer medicine at all, much less “mandate” medical treatments for the general population.

I know it is possible to mitigate and control all contagious diseases with safer and more effective means than vaccination.

Anyone who claims privilege to inject materials in my body without my consent is my enemy and is criminal.

I will treat anyone who threatens to violate my body as a criminal assailant.

No, you may not vaccinate me or my children. If you try, I will exercise my right to self defense against you and your accomplices to any extent I deem necessary to protect ourselves.

Forced vaccination is not authorized or permitted under Founding Law. If there is a code or statutory “mandate” for forced medication, it is unconstitutional, unlawful and unenforceable.

You may not attempt or threaten non-consensual vaccination, and if you do, you will be dealt with in a manner to restore rule of law, justice and to protect our right to personal physical security.

Your ignorance of vaccine hazards and medical rights and your inability to understand the facts above do not give you any immunity or any license to commit the crime of forced non-consensual medication.

Can you name every ingredient of your vaccine? Presumably not.

Can you predict the physical effects of each of those ingredients? No.

Can you predict the consequences of combining those ingredients? No.

Have you offered to personally take full responsibility to pay for any harm your vaccine causes? No.

Therefore you do not have the slightest authority or privilege to forcibly administer vaccines.

  • Sat, Oct 24, 2020 - 10:50am

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The use of the term, “I know that,” and the word “toxic” are not entirely true. This document should read, “I believe that,” and then the word “toxic” could be used with more honesty.

  • Sat, Oct 24, 2020 - 12:14pm



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Thumbs-up! Thanks for posting that message. Like you, I am also not a total anti-vaxxer. Within the last decade, I got a booster for tetanus. I did it because I’m outside working in the soil so much and poking myself (accidentally) with blunt objects. At the time, I thought it was worth the risk and got the shot.

I knew about titers to determine antibody effectiveness, but I didn’t think to apply it to myself. I wish I had, but there’s nothing I can do about it now other than being prepared for the next opportunity.

Like you, I don’t trust that vaccine makers are more concerned about my health than the health of their bottom line. Since they can’t get sued (because Reagan gave them immunity,) they don’t have financial incentive to produce anything more than a product that sells. Does that mean they don’t have concern for my health? Not at all. It just means that they can’t get sued. Complaints go to “vaccine court” where a bureaucrat decides if harm was caused and how much compensation should be awarded. That’s the only remedy available.

I got the measles as a child. It wasn’t the most comfortable disease, but I got over it. As a result, I’m immune to measles. Even if measles mutates, I’m immune. Why? As it was explained to me, the immunity is to a critical part of the measles genetic code that keeps it viable.

Those who got the measles vaccine have to get booster shots to keep levels up. Sand_puppy posted a thread a while back concerning vaccines. (I couldn’t find it with PP’s search engine.) I remember reading that more people died from complications of the measles vaccine than from measles itself.

Since people have gotten Covid more than once, the body’s immune response isn’t directed at an integral part of the virus. It may be directed at a particular protein that the virus can function without having. The common cold is a coronavirus. There isn’t any effective vaccine against it since it mutates so readily. What makes otherwise intelligent people think that the vaccine makers will be able to effectively solve that monumental problem while rushing to get their vaccine to market before their competitors do?

agitating prop,

I support your right to inject anything you want into your body (as long as you accept responsibility for your choice and you pay the costs.) If you want to trust that vaccine makers are producing a totally safe and effective product, that should be your choice. Do you know everything they put in the vaccine? I don’t. They use mercury (which is toxic) as a preservative sometimes. They also use molecules with aluminum for adjuvants sometimes. Aluminum is very toxic to the brain. Do you know the long term implications of these products? (I don’t.) As long as you don’t expect me (or the general public) to rescue you from your bad choices, I support your decision.

At the same time, if I don’t think a vaccination is in my best interest, should government be allowed to force me to take it? I appreciate the public health issue. I’m willing to quarantine myself as long as necessary if I get ill. I do that as a matter of course for any illness. I’m being a responsible citizen. Isn’t that all that society should expect of me concerning disease prevention?


  • Sat, Oct 24, 2020 - 01:52pm



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Absolutely not an anti-vaxxer, but no way will I let anyone near me with any covid ‘vaccine’ till I can see the results of a few years on the vaccinated.

And if the vaccine actually does any good considering mutation rates of coronavirus’ and that people are getting covid a second time.

The RNA vaccines; brand new and never tested before actually modify human DNA. So if the vaccine has adverse effects, well, hey there… Sorry!
Get a new body.

This is all about gazillions of dollars for big pharma, and very little about a covid remedy for humanity, particularly in light of the situation with HCQ and now Ivermectin

  • Sat, Oct 24, 2020 - 07:19pm



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I am on page.  Not anti-vaxx but do believe they really need to make them safer ” not holding the manufacturers responsible for injury, can only guarantee they are not safe”

Addtionally,  they should only be used with great cause.  If there is a great risk.  We have vaccines for illnesses that do not cause severe illness or permanent harm.. AND none for those that do.  But you do not need to give Hep A and B to 4 year olds.   AND dump 35 vaccines in their first 60 mos of life.. Putting the immune system in chronic over-drive.   There is no sane person that can tell me this is safe.  We know it impairs the immune function.. Yes proven, we know it.  Science community knows it. The drug companies know it.

Covid does fit the need.  However,  4 mos to create vacccine when it takes longer to create enough masks…. should tell you something.   Also , vaccines are made for long-term protection.   It makes no sense making and using a vaccine that confers maybe some protection ( that is the risk/reward problem “maybe”) and may actually cause ADE or impairment of the immune system to fight other infections.

I would take a covid vaccine IF I know it safe, I know it effective.    I do not believe it will be effective more than 1-4 mos max.  AND that is a problem when I believe it has not been vetted properly.    So , no.. I will not be taking this vax.. Until they can demonstrate and address in science , how they have created a vaccine to provide durable resistance, for a virus you can get over and over again.. And how they have accounted for the ADE and other types of immune enhancement or compromise,  that has occurred in vaccines for other illnesses that you do not confirm long-term immunity after infection , such as dengue and Sars Cov 1.

If you can just blast out a vaccine for any virus that you find// WHERE is the herpes 1 and 2 vaccine?  where is the HIV vaccine?    Our object is not rid the planet of every disease causing microbe on the planet..  But it is our responsibility to not tinker with the ones that are here.


  • Sat, Oct 24, 2020 - 09:33pm

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I wouldn’t get a covid shot immediately either because I won’t know enough about it to go ahead. It’s wise to wait and see what happens.

This is what I will do based on my general ideas about big Pharma and the nature of the disease. It’s more about over all impressions than firm beliefs about vaccines in general, much less knowing anything for sure.

  • Sat, Oct 24, 2020 - 10:28pm



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I’m concerned they will eventually ‘force’ it on people.  Not in the pound-down-your-door way but as the gateway to something you need.

Several years ago we needed a cochlear implant surgery for one of my kids.  Hospital said our child needed to have a particular vaccine before they could have the surgery.  We asked for research on safety. Got none.  Asked for research on effectiveness at preventing the targeted illness. Got none.  Surgeon finally said it was a deal breaker so we went ahead and allowed it.  Nothing bad happened, fortunately.

But that experience shows me just how ‘optional’ some things are and aren’t.  It’s not too hard for me to imagine showing up for a surgery someday and being told I must get a COVID vaccination.

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Is it true that if you have tested positive for COV19 and are asymptotic, you are less likely to get the flu?   Did I hear this or dream it?

  • Thu, Oct 29, 2020 - 07:53am



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Brilliant, worth printing on an A4 and pasting it on your fridge. I have a similar one for potential forced PCR testing.

@agitating prop
The use of the term, “I know that,” and the word “toxic” are not entirely true. This document should read, “I believe that,” and then the word “toxic” could be used with more honesty.

Are you trying to say that we “don’t know” that heavy metals are highly toxic? It’s extremely well-known, the only “doubt” is false doubt introduced by Big Pharma and the regulatory agencies they control and have obtained full legal immunity from. And just addressing the heavy metals, the main substance that causes the most effects/damage. See HERE for far more — see if you can come up with something to try to justify those.


Like you, I am also not a total anti-vaxxer
Absolutely not an anti-vaxxer
Not anti-vaxx but do believe they really need to make them safer

The term “anti-vaxxer” is highly deceptive. Nobody is against the idea of vaccines in principle. We’re just not retarded or vaccine-damaged to the point where we’re willing to ignore all the actual facts, like the fact that the main ingredients are clearly not “attenuated pathogens” but instead heavy metals and a bunch of other toxins designed to generate life-long customers at no risk.


Is it true that if you have tested positive for COV19 and are asymptotic, you are less likely to get the flu? Did I hear this or dream it?

Only in the sense that, assuming the PCR cycle threshold used was a relatively sensical one (about 33-40), if you’re asymptomatic despite having some level of SARS-CoV-2 (or possibly hCoV-OC43 or hCoV-229E), you have a functioning immune system (don’t have vitamin D deficiency etc), and thus are also going to be immune against flu. I’ve been immune for more than 15 years, because I’m not so clueless as to have vitamin D deficiency, eat junk food, etc etc, i.e. I took my health into my own hands, away from generally clueless doctors (I am my own doctor, and to some extent other people’s doctor).

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    oral vaccine

Here’s an oral vaccine candidate.  No injection, so you eliminate the mercury and other toxins.  At least your digestive tract is built to deal with such things, in a way your bloodstream is not.

They use gene-editing to splice in the SC2 spike protein.  One hopes that the gene-edited allegedly non-replicating carrier adenovirus doesn’t do anything unpleasant to your cells longer term.

What do we think?  [Note: I really am asking, not promoting.]

OraPro uses a non-replicating viral vector to deliver the COVID-19 spike protein DNA to the mucosal cells in the GI tract, ensuring no anti-vector immune response. A strong anti-vector response would inhibit the re-use of the same vector for second doses, if required, and limit further vaccine candidates. The lack of anti-vector immune response unlocks a ‘plug and play’ aspect for OraPro. Only the infectious disease antigen is changed between developments, enabling a large amount of manufacturing, regulatory and safety continuity and a faster route to market.

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