Antiviral effects on vaccine efficacy???

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  • Wed, Jan 20, 2021 - 05:39am

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    Antiviral effects on vaccine efficacy???

Greetings to Dr. Martenson and my other tribe members!

I have a question I wanted to get some thoughts on from a professional.  Assuming that IVM/HCQ+Zinc/Quercetin+Zinc are effective at decreasing viral load by preventing SARS-COV-2 from entering the cell, what effect might those medications have on the mRNA vaccine?  Is there potential that it would decrease efficacy by inhibiting the vaccine from entering the cell as well?

I’m wondering for those who are both using medications that decrease viral load AND intend to take  the vaccine, could the vaccine become more effective by pausing the antiviral medications for a span of time prior to taking the vaccine?

 

  • Wed, Jan 20, 2021 - 10:14am

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    Effective treatments vs. vaccine bioweapons

I’m not a “professional” but I know more than most “professionals” in health systems.

Zinc+ionophore doesn’t prevent a virus from entering the cell, it prevents the main enzyme of RNA viruses, RdRp, from elongating and becoming functional, shortly after the virus has entered the cell and delivered its RNA payload.

Ivermectin also doesn’t prevent viruses from entering cells, but once RdRp has started to create new viral proteins from the viral mRNA, those proteins have to be transported from the cytoplasm into the cell nucleus to continue the viral replication cycle, and ivermectin inhibits the importin alpha and beta cell proteins that would transport them. Both IVM and HCQ may also have additional pH-altering effects in the cytoplasm, making viruses less able to proliferate.

The same people suppressing all effective treatments, including HCQ and IVM, thus allowing over one million people to die unnecessarily, are the ones pushing experimental vaccines and experimental mRNA “vaccines” with secret ingredients and full legal immunity. Therefore, even if you haven’t seen the videos and testimonies of anyone harmed by them because you are informationally siloed, if you’re remotely smart you will do everything you can to avoid any such vaccines and “vaccines”, and join the free humans in exposing the crime of the century.

  • Wed, Jan 20, 2021 - 10:39am   (Reply to #2)

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    Would HCQ/IVM negate the activity of the vaccine??

Would HCQ/IVM negate the activity of the vaccine if taken at the time of inoculation? Could you get certified as vaccinated and still avoid the unknown side effects?

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    Super interesting question Steve D…

Indeed the vaccine’s mode of operation is to coerce the ribosomes into making copies of the (RNA) spike protein sequence.  If we can proactively medicate and stop RNA transcription… can we in fact protect ourselves from at least some of the vaccine effects?  Maybe.

I would still be concerned that the PEG-coated mRNA particles will find their way into my brain, where they may set off other neurological side effects that may not be turned off by the medication…. there’s the blood:brain barrier to contend with.

 

  • Wed, Jan 20, 2021 - 12:42pm   (Reply to #2)

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    Antiviral effects on vaccine efficacy???

While theoretically some medication could prevent mRNA from getting in the cells, after all vaccines use a 5-adenovirus to shuttle mRNA in cells,

It would be hit or miss

And there will be multiple vaccines coming.

Nobody knows if that will work on all (or any) of them.

So the best thing is to avoid the Vs for good.

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    Doctors warn of danger of vaccines

Here’s a TINY SAMPLE of the censored doctors:

https://www.bit___chute.com/video/psVV2HKU4vwg/

Bitchute is now TOTALLY BANNED from PeakProsperity… WHY?

  • Wed, Jan 20, 2021 - 01:37pm

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    Reply To: Antiviral effects on vaccine efficacy???

From the FDA’s faq’s on the Moderna Covid vaccine:  CAN I RECEIVE THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE WITH OTHER VACCINES?    Answer:  “There is no information on the use of the Moderna COVID-19  Vaccine with other vaccines.

Since there is no mention of other drug interactions there is no way to tell what drugs may impact the vaccine or what drugs the vaccine might impact.

The same wording is used in the FDA’s faq’s on the Pfizer Covid vaccine.  Here are the respective “fact sheets” (and I use the term laughingly) for the Moderna and Pfizer Covid Vaccines.  Note “fact sheets” don’t contain many “facts”   Not FDA approved, it may work,  not certain how long it may work?  Or what side effects it may have.   May, may, may, and may.  Folks for the most part, are more sick of the ignorance surrounding Covid than the disease itself.  I know for a FACT that I am.

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine EUA Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers (fda.gov)ttps://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine EUA Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers (fda.gov)https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

edit to add:  given the fact that the vaccine manufacturers know people will be taking ivermectin and many other pharmaceuticals it would be nice if they could address this.

  • Wed, Jan 20, 2021 - 01:49pm   (Reply to #2)

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    Antiviral effects on vaccine efficacy???

Cgarcia said,

While theoretically some medication could prevent mRNA from getting in the cells, after all vaccines use a 5-adenovirus to shuttle mRNA in cells,

This is incorrect.  The only vaccine currently using the adenovirus vector is AstraZeneca, and that is not in use in the US.  The mRNA vaccines use a PEG coating to get into the cell cytoplasm, where they then get into the ribosomes as I previously described… no adenovirus involved.  The purpose of the adenovirus is to get a DNA payload into the nucleus.  Dr. Seheult explains all here;

COVID-19: How does the Oxford-AstraZeneca viral vector vaccine work? (medicalnewstoday.com)

Coronavirus Update 118: AstraZeneca DNA COVID 19 Vaccine Explained (vs. Pfizer / BioNTech, Moderna) – YouTube

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