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  • Mon, Dec 15, 2008 - 11:49pm

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    tom.

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

[quote=jrf29]What the heck is going on?  The order that these posts are appearing in makes no sense at all!  Is there a bug somewhere?
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They were moved here from the heroes link

  • Tue, Dec 16, 2008 - 09:28pm

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    Zafra Davian

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

I absolutely agree with Kemosavvy – this thread has been entirely necessary, if only to help those of us who really never questioned our reasons for posting anonymously. 

If you can’t tell, this is not my real name. 🙂 Anyone who knows me in the least knows it is a nickname that has been with me since High School (about 15 years), so not exactly ‘anonymous’ to everyone, but still anonymous enough, and a name I am comfortable with.

Having said that, I will change here and ‘come-out’ as it were, with my real name. Why? After reading through all the responses I have come to identify why I am anonymous in most places I go – Yahoo IM, Livejournal, random forums about very specific life issues and hobbies, etc. The reason simply is that we might ‘bond’ over a particular narrow and possibly ‘worthless’ hobby or idea (worthless to the idea of self-preservation and liberty, not worthless in-of itself) but I don’t know anything else about these people. And I don’t need to ‘rock the boat’ with someone by over-being. For example, most of the ladies (and some men) I chat with in a Yahoo Group dedicated to housework and cleaning are Christians. Overtly Christian. I am Wiccan. You can see how even though they might "God Bless" all over the place, as some are prone to do – I politely refrain from poking them with a stick about my differences. I could easily be self-righteous and turn it into a diatribe on how self-important I think Christians are and how narrow-minded they seem when they wish everyone a "Merry Christmas" or some other holiday without a thought in their heads we might celebrate something else. The level of assumption out there just slays me. (and it’s certainly not confined to religious belief) And that, is definately not the type of forum for that discussion. This might not be the forum, either, but at least here we are indeed *asking* each other to talk about things that would be considered *heavy* and *flame-inducing* on just about any other forum.

Therefore, I see ‘hiding’ myself and my inner beliefs to be contrary to the cause. Sure, I may not announce everywhere that I had a gay parent and I have no problem with marriage equality and I thought the idea that one type of person being ‘different’ or ‘not as entitled’ as another went out with the Civil Right Movement – but I might be called upon to do that here. And since I am certainly *not* ashamed of my beliefs or the life I have lead that has shaped those beliefs – why shouldn’t I stand up and be myself? I would rather loose a customer from my business (self-employed) because they somehow decided to Google me by name and see if I was some sort of heretic, then work to keep the ignorant masses supplied with their technology. (We currently own a home theater company)

An interesting note to the above – this site was recommended to me *by* a customer. 🙂 

  • Tue, Dec 16, 2008 - 11:07pm

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    radiance

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

Welcome Zafra!

You are welcome here just as you are; Wicca, gay, straight, New Age, what ever. I am Christian, but if you have read any of my posts you will discover I am an intoxicated Christian at odds with Christianity. Some here accuse me of proselytizing. I could care less who anyone is; to be sure my job is not to save your soul. God knows I can not save my own. I also am not here for those who are in no need of a physician. However on occasion I share my identity as one who is intoxicated with God and when Christ is errantly stereotyped I speak up. I am a radical who has not set foot in an institutional church in years, frankly the environment repulses me. Many here desire to silence me while they spout all sorts of beliefs themselves. Some by the tempo of their posts would gouge my tongue out. I understand "in the name of Jesus" is a little more than a mantra for many who claim to be in Christ. Jesus said it would be so. 

You may not be safe who you are with most Christians, but I will always attempt to avoid disrespecting who you are and if you are disrespected by those who claim to be in Christ I will be the first to stand with you just as you are and incidentally I can eat those people like snacks.  But I suspect some here, for sharing this, will paint me as…fill in the blank. I am condemned for sharing who I am here at CC and for standing against the false-hoods some here love to spout about Christ. Such is the life I have to bear with. At times it appears you can be anyone here just not someone deeply in Christ. I am not intimidated by the hatred and I as I have said I understand. Incidentally my father was an intellectual and an atheist who hated my encounter with the eternal when I turned nineteen. He mocked and laughed; so trust me I am accustomed to vicious disdain. He was just a wounded man from Christianity like so many others. But be warned certain isms keep cropping up here at the forum and when I discern the voice that is rooted in evil I speak up. But I always try to be kind and respectful. Please feel free to critique my demeanor and thinking. I am not afraid to apologize when need be and I need people to correct me when I am out of line here. But I may engage you on where the line should be.

Anyway welcome and I am sure I can learn much from you and your unique life. In the paraphrase of the great Swami Baba "don’t worry be happy."

Very best regards,

Ron Fink

  • Sat, Dec 20, 2008 - 01:56am

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    alpha_omega

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

1. The forum software is pretty good except it should verify that the e-mail address entered when registered is valid. This is done generally — and for almost all technical forums — by sending an e-mail to the address with a link which will complete the registration. IMHO this is a software bug.

2. It is confusing when registering that you are given a username and a picture without up-front asking — or even suggesting — to use a real name in the forums. It is OK to ask posters to use their own names or require them but the site should be up front about it and not bury in a forum. The registration suggests — not intentionally maybe — using an avatar. You should think about whether that is appropriate for this site.

3. Avatars are for sites like Second Life. Here’s an idea: you could give a seminar there. No, really. At least there they are actually making stuff for others to buy — with Linden dollars.

4.I’ve got to get better opinions before I give out my real name.

  • Sat, Dec 20, 2008 - 04:15am

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    admin-2

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

[quote=alpha_omega]

1. The forum software is pretty good except it should verify that the e-mail address entered when registered is valid. This is done generally — and for almost all technical forums — by sending an e-mail to the address with a link which will complete the registration. IMHO this is a software bug.

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alpha_omega,

Just so you’re aware, this is not a software bug.  A conscious choice was made not to require email address validation.  We could just as easily turn this feature on if we wanted to do so. 

We require registrants to complete CAPTCHA as part of the sign-up process.  We feel this is enough for the time being, and certainly reserve the right to review this again in the future.  At this moment, I don’t feel there is a need to overburden our user community with various "email verification" steps.  Also the reality is maybe 50% or more of the verification emails will end up in people’s spam folders, causing additional customer service burden on an already thinly-spread staff.

If we were an online banking site, I’d say this would be a top priority.  If it starts to become a larger issue, we’ll look at it again.

Ron

  • Sat, Dec 20, 2008 - 04:25am

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    admin-2

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

[quote=alpha_omega]

2. It is confusing when registering that you are given a username and a picture without up-front asking — or even suggesting — to use a real name in the forums. It is OK to ask posters to use their own names or require them but the site should be up front about it and not bury in a forum. The registration suggests — not intentionally maybe — using an avatar. You should think about whether that is appropriate for this site.

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alpha_omega,

In regards to your second point, I agree there probably should be some additional text on the registration process suggesting about names and pictures. However I also hope you can understand the discussion regarding using real name/picture has only been an active conversation with the community for the past week.  It’s fairly new on everyone’s radar.

About whether or not an avatar is appropriate … I’m not sure why you would think it would not be?  Chris is attempting to foster a true sense of community, therefore being able to identify one’s posts and information with a picture is certainly of value.  Maybe I’m missing something in the comment that you can clarify?

Ron

  • Sat, Dec 20, 2008 - 04:39am

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    joe bender

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

please define swami. out of  respect for me and to be kind. so i do not get the idea you might be mocking me

thank you 

mr. fink

  • Sat, Dec 20, 2008 - 05:00am

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    radiance

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

Joe2baba

If I were mocking you I would make it clear. I am not a mocker. I recoil at the thought. Writing leaves so much to be desired. Message sent versus message received stuff. Actually I find the man behind your pen quit like-able, Someone whose company I would enjoy while hour after hour grappling with quintessence. You are a sharp guy and when I have perceived a tone or inflection I thought was short or something of the sort I have tossed it on the trash heap of poor communication. Face to face is so much better!

Anyway "don’t worry be happy"

I am not one of those types you may be concerned about; at least not as long as I am a dead man 🙂

The Finkster

  • Sat, Dec 20, 2008 - 09:37am

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    jrf29

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

"Swami, is primarily a Hindo honorific title, for either males or females. It is derived from Sanskrit and means "He who knows and is master of himself", "owner of oneself",
or "free from the senses". It is a title added to one’s name to
emphasize learning and mastery of Yoga, devotion to the gods, and devotion to the swami’s spiritual master (a guru or another swami)."

 

I’d say that’s an apt description….  And "Swami Baba" does trip quite glibly from the tongue!

  • Sat, Dec 20, 2008 - 12:05pm

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    tom.

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    Re: Anonymity versus openness of identity in forums

[quote=radiance]

when I have perceived a tone or inflection I thought was short or something of the sort I have tossed it on the trash heap of poor communication. Face to face is so much better!

Anyway "don’t worry be happy"

I am not one of those types you may be concerned about; at least not as long as I am a dead man 🙂

The Finkster

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A video for the dead Finkster Smile

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