And the Swine Flu won’t go away

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  • Sat, Aug 29, 2009 - 05:40am

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    Re: And the Swine Flu won’t go away

WHO warns of severe form of swine flu

By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor Maggie Fox, Health And Science Editor โ€“ Fri Aug 28, 1:36 pm ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) โ€“ Doctors are reporting a severe form of swine flu that goes straight to the lungs, causing severe illness in otherwise healthy young people and requiring expensive hospital treatment, the World Health Organization said on Friday.

Some countries are reporting that as many as 15 percent of patients infected with the new H1N1 pandemic virus need hospital care, further straining already overburdened healthcare systems, WHO said in an update on the pandemic.

“During the winter season in the southern hemisphere, several countries have viewed the need for intensive care as the greatest burden on health services,” it said.

“Preparedness measures need to anticipate this increased demand on intensive care units, which could be overwhelmed by a sudden surge in the number of severe cases.”

Earlier, WHO reported that H1N1 had reached epidemic levels in Japan, signaling an early start to what may be a long influenza season this year, and that it was also worsening in tropical regions.

“Perhaps most significantly, clinicians from around the world are reporting a very severe form of disease, also in young and otherwise healthy people, which is rarely seen during seasonal influenza infections,” WHO said.

“In these patients, the virus directly infects the lung, causing severe respiratory failure. Saving these lives depends on highly specialized and demanding care in intensive care units, usually with long and costly stays.”

MINORITIES AT RISK

Minority groups and indigenous populations may also have a higher risk of being severely ill with H1N1.

“In some studies, the risk in these groups is four to five times higher than in the general population,” WHO said.

“Although the reasons are not fully understood, possible explanations include lower standards of living and poor overall health status, including a high prevalence of conditions such as asthma, diabetes and hypertension.”

WHO said it was advising countries in the Northern Hemisphere to prepare for a second wave of pandemic spread. “Countries with tropical climates, where the pandemic virus arrived later than elsewhere, also need to prepare for an increasing number of cases,” it said.

Every year, seasonal flu infects between 5 percent and 20 percent of a given population and kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people globally. Because hardly anyone has immunity to the new H1N1 virus, experts believe it will infect far more people than usual, as much as a third of the population.

It also disproportionately affects younger people, unlike seasonal flu which mainly burdens the elderly, and thus may cause more severe illness and deaths among young adults and children than seasonal flu does.

“Data continue to show that certain medical conditions increase the risk of severe and fatal illness. These include respiratory disease, notably asthma, cardiovascular disease, diabetes and immunosuppression,” WHO said.

“When anticipating the impact of the pandemic as more people become infected, health officials need to be aware that many of these predisposing conditions have become much more widespread in recent decades, thus increasing the pool of vulnerable people.”

WHO estimates that more than 230 million people globally have asthma, and more than 220 million have diabetes. Obesity may also worsen the risk of severe infection, WHO said.

The good news — people infected with AIDS virus do not seem to be at special risk from H1N1, WHO said.

  • Sun, Aug 30, 2009 - 05:56am

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    Flu vaccine related deaths in Poland?

More of the same . . . deaths possibly caused by “bird flu” vaccine in Poland.  Test subjects not given full disclosure prior to administration of untested vaccine:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/2235676/Homeless-people-die-after-bird-flu-vaccine-trial-in-Poland.html

  • Mon, Aug 31, 2009 - 06:12pm

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    Re: And the Swine Flu won’t go away

C1oudfire,

Thanks for staying on top of this issue.  I keep reading that the dangers of the vaccine is greater than the danger of the flu.  It is too bad we can’t trust the corporate media and government to give us straight answers.

Larry

  • Mon, Aug 31, 2009 - 08:39pm

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    How about some Solutions?

Hi, folks;

Well, there’s plenty of posts about why we should be concerned about the vaccine . . . That one’s a done deal as far as I’m concerned . . . They’ll have to hit me with a poisoned dart, and drag me out of my house by my feet before they get me to submit to a vaccine . . . And then, I’ll probably cut my arm off like the natives in Apocalypse Now, when I wake up  . . . . Undecided

So, of course, on the off chance that something really does come of this panicdemic, I’ve been developing an “influenza kit” to keep my family safe.  One of the items is elderberry juice and/or elderberry syrup.  Here is an excellent summary (from my new favorite emergency prep/homesteading blog) of the use of elderberry for prevention and treatment of influenza:  http://purecajunsunshine.blogspot.com/2009/05/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know.html.  It seems that elderberry has a long, tested track record (unlike the vaccine) for the treatment and prevention of influenza . . . even the dreaded avian flu.  And, for those of you (like me) who are wary of Tamiflu and the like, the good news is that elderberries are just becoming ripe right now, in northern Illinois.  They are as common as weeds, and easy to harvest.  If you haven’t time to put up syrup right now, you can freeze them, and do the processing later.  When you go foraging, remember that elderberries like forest edges and rather moist, if not quite boggy, ground.  Here’s what the shrub looks like in flower, although usually they’re more assymetrical, because they lean out toward the light from forest edges:

In the spring, the flowers are easy to spot . . . so you can take note, and return in late August for berry picking.  Here’s a closeup of the fruit and leaves:

Remember that uncooked elderberry juice is moderately poisonous, so no munching in the field, kids . . .

There are a number of elderberry syrup recipes online (including one in the link, above).  Some contain alcohol, and others do not.  I plan on making some syrup with alcohol, as it keeps on the shelf (no refrigeration) that way.  Also, a touch of alcohol is useful for a cough, in the event that you are using the syrup in higher doses for an active case of the flu. 

That’s it . . . Back to the kitchen with me, now . . .

 

  • Tue, Sep 01, 2009 - 02:42am

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http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14974

Historical facts about the dangers (and failures) of vaccines
  • Tue, Sep 01, 2009 - 03:11pm

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[quote=C1oudfire]

Hi, folks;

Well, there’s plenty of posts about why we should be concerned about the vaccine . . . That one’s a done deal as far as I’m concerned . . . They’ll have to hit me with a poisoned dart, and drag me out of my house by my feet before they get me to submit to a vaccine . . . And then, I’ll probably cut my arm off like the natives in Apocalypse Now, when I wake up  . . . . Undecided

So, of course, on the off chance that something really does come of this panicdemic, I’ve been developing an “influenza kit” to keep my family safe.  One of the items is elderberry juice and/or elderberry syrup.  Here is an excellent summary (from my new favorite emergency prep/homesteading blog) of the use of elderberry for prevention and treatment of influenza:  http://purecajunsunshine.blogspot.com/2009/05/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know.html.  It seems that elderberry has a long, tested track record (unlike the vaccine) for the treatment and prevention of influenza . . . even the dreaded avian flu.  And, for those of you (like me) who are wary of Tamiflu and the like, the good news is that elderberries are just becoming ripe right now, in northern Illinois.  They are as common as weeds, and easy to harvest.  If you haven’t time to put up syrup right now, you can freeze them, and do the processing later.  When you go foraging, remember that elderberries like forest edges and rather moist, if not quite boggy, ground.  Here’s what the shrub looks like in flower, although usually they’re more assymetrical, because they lean out toward the light from forest edges:

In the spring, the flowers are easy to spot . . . so you can take note, and return in late August for berry picking.  Here’s a closeup of the fruit and leaves:

Remember that uncooked elderberry juice is moderately poisonous, so no munching in the field, kids . . .

There are a number of elderberry syrup recipes online (including one in the link, above).  Some contain alcohol, and others do not.  I plan on making some syrup with alcohol, as it keeps on the shelf (no refrigeration) that way.  Also, a touch of alcohol is useful for a cough, in the event that you are using the syrup in higher doses for an active case of the flu. 

That’s it . . . Back to the kitchen with me, now . . .

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Medical research has documented that elderberry (Sambucus) will decrease the duration and severity of the flu (J Int Med Res. 2004 Mar-Apr;32(2):132-40).

And, here’s a link to a reliable source of elderberry syrup:  http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/extract/syrups.html.

 

  • Wed, Sep 02, 2009 - 01:40am

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I have to assume that someone has mentioned the new swine flu vaccine law in Massachusettes?  Maybe I just missed it. 

 

I sorta fell out of step with this forum for a while.

 

Also, I’m pregnant – due in March… woo hoo, pregnant right through flu season.  I’m usually not a fan of hand sanitizer, but considering how often I was sick last time, I’m going for it this time.  Also, cod liver oil is supposedly good for warding off flu (and other bugs)… there’s a reason our grandmothers were forced to take it.  Luckily now it’s flavored and doesn’t taste bad ๐Ÿ™‚  My kids actually like taking it.  I still have to look into whether it’s ok to take while pregnant, but  something for people to look into ๐Ÿ˜€

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Makes great jelly and syrup.  Better than grape jelly IMHO.  Pancakes with elderberry syrup is heavenly.

Do not confuse with Pokeweed though.  Also ripening about this time of year.  Poke grows on succulent stem, while elderberry is a bush.

– Jim

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I have to assume that someone has mentioned the new swine flu vaccine law in Massachusettes?  Maybe I just missed it. 

 

I sorta fell out of step with this forum for a while.

 

Also, I’m pregnant – due in March… woo hoo, pregnant right through flu season.  I’m usually not a fan of hand sanitizer, but considering how often I was sick last time, I’m going for it this time.  Also, cod liver oil is supposedly good for warding off flu (and other bugs)… there’s a reason our grandmothers were forced to take it.  Luckily now it’s flavored and doesn’t taste bad ๐Ÿ™‚  My kids actually like taking it.  I still have to look into whether it’s ok to take while pregnant, but  something for people to look into ๐Ÿ˜€

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Hi, Juvysen;

First, congratulations!  Secondly, I need to tell you that elderberry might be risky for you this fall . . . it has been associated with spontaneous abortion with frequent and/or large doses . . . In fact, some herbalists don’t like pregnant ladies to take any herbal preparation during pregnancy. 

  • Wed, Sep 02, 2009 - 05:18am

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[quote=C1oudfire]

[quote=Juvysen]

I have to assume that someone has mentioned the new swine flu vaccine law in Massachusettes?  Maybe I just missed it. 

 

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Forced Vaccinations in Massachusetts

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15003

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