Agenda 21; The Wrenching Transformation of America

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    Agenda 21; The Wrenching Transformation of America

Excerpts from a speech by Tom Deweese, full transcript here

I believe the American people, and their every action, are being ruled, regulated, restricted, licensed, registered, directed, checked, inspected, measured, numbered, counted, rated, stamped, censured, authorized, admonished, refused, prevented, drilled, indoctrinated, monopolized, extorted, robbed, hoaxed, fined, harassed, disarmed, dishonored, fleeced, exploited, assessed, and taxed to the point of suffocation and desperation.

America is drowning in a sea of rules and regulations, particularly under the guise of “saving the environment.”

Many in America attempt to fight against one issue or another as they try to understand what is happening to their country. But most fail to see the whole picture and are being crushed under a well organized “divide and conquer” tactic that keeps them reeling from crisis to crisis.

We’ve been terrorized into accepting that human society was on the brink of extinction because of man-made global warming. We’ve been warned that, unless we take drastic action to reverse it – then islands will disappear, whole cities will be destroyed and polar bears will drown. 

If they are supporting climate change legislation because of a genuine concern for the environment, then they should now be greatly relieved to know that true science is showing more and more evidence that there is no man-made global warming, and in fact, a natural cooling period has begun.

I have just returned from one of the most important Climate Change conferences ever held. Sponsored by the Heartland Institute, more than 700 scientists from all over the world came together to testify that man-made Global Warming does not exist.  Harvard scholar and climate scientist Willie Soon said it best in a recent article he titled, “It’s the Sun, stupid.”  Dr. Mark Campbell, professor of chemistry at the U.S. Navel Academy in Annapolis recently wrote, “The sky is not burning, and to claim that it is amounts to journalistic malpractice.”

Said U.S. Government atmospheric scientist Stanley B, Goldenberg, “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.”  In the past year, more than 650 scientists from around the world have expressed their doubts. That’s 12 times the number of UN IPCC global warming alarmists.

Top that with the fact that more than 31,000 American scientists have signed a petition saying there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing disruption of the Earth’s climate.

Of course most of the hysteria has been fueled by Al Gore’s Oscar-winning, Nobel prize-winning film “An Inconvenient Truth,” which almost every American school student has been forced to watch endless times in their classroom.  Well, guess what, the government of Great Britain just ruled that the film cannot be shown in English classrooms unless it carries a disclaimer that says the film is full of mistakes and propaganda.

An overwhelming majority of scientist are now telling us that investigative research shows any warming actually stopped in 1999. And, in fact, they say the brief warming period we experienced in the past decade was completely natural, caused in part by storms on the sun, not CO2 emissions from SUVs.  The Sun storms have ended and now a cooling period has begun.  That’s it. Done. Crisis over. Man is not to blame. Hurray! The nation should be rejoicing.

We can drill American oil and end our dependency on foreigners who hate us. In fact, that stable source of energy will help restore the Detroit auto industry and all of those jobs. And it will help us to stop funding terrorists. What’s not to like about drilling American oil? 

That silence you hear is the news media, which refuses to report what any skeptic has to say.  That silence you hear is the lack of effort on Capitol Hill to start to pull back from the climate change hysteria.  That silence you hear is from the White House where President of Change, Barack Obama now has an EPA director, a Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) director and a full blown Climate Change Czar, all working to impose huge cut backs in energy use, with more taxes, and more rules and regulations that will bring an already damaged economy to its knees – all in the name of man-made Global Warming – which doesn’t exist.

…And that silence you hear is from global corporations which have bought into Al Gore’s lie and invested heavily in the promised green economy. In fact, their dollars are the only thing green about any of it. Their commercials are promoting the lies and changing our way of life. “Going Green” is the mantra of the day. None of them are about to change any of these policies, simply to accommodate a few inconvenient scientific facts. 

Why do they continue to promote a lie? Because global warming never was about protecting the environment. It’s nothing more than the excuse to enforce global governance on the planet by creating a new global economy based on the environment rather than on goods and services [bold emphasis by me].  In fact, the most important debate in the history of the United States is about to begin – it’s the battle over a completely new economic system based on Climate Change called Cap and Trade.  It should be called Tax and Trade as it will force up the price of every item created or run by energy from gasoline to toothpaste to natural gas to hotel rooms, as we sit in our cold, dark homes.

Cap and Trade will throw out the old system of a free market based on goods and services and operate on the idea that CO2 is a pollutant. Instead of money, wealth will be determined by how many government-issued emission permits you own to allow you to operate your business.  In short, it’s all about wealth redistribution. Your wealth into a green rat hole .  During the Cold War, communists tried to get us to surrender our liberties and way of life for the wisdom of Karl Marx. Americans didn’t buy it.

But now, they have taken the same clap trap and wrapped it all in a nice green blanket, scaring us with horror stories about the human destruction of the environment – and so we are now throwing our liberties on the bon fire like a good old fashioned book burning — all in the name of protecting the planet.  It sounds so friendly. So meaningful. So urgent. But, the devastation to our liberty and way of life is the same as if Lenin ordered it. 

Free trade, social justice, consensus, global truth, partnerships, preservation, stakeholders, land use, environmental protection, development, diversity, visioning, open space, heritage, comprehensive planning, critical thinking, and community service are all part of our new language.

What are they really talking about? What mental pictures come to mind when those words are used? George Orwell realized that those who control language and manipulate key phrases can control policy.  The language is being changed and manipulated to quietly implement a very destructive policy. One outlined in a UN soft-law document called Agenda 21, first revealed at the UN’s Earth Summit in 1992. The working name is Sustainable Development.

Interestingly, it is not a Republican or Democrat issue. It’s not liberal or conservative. It is being implemented on a purely bipartisan basis.  But, I warn you, accepting the perception that Sustainable Development is simply good environmental stewardship is a serious and dangerous mistake. 

Keep in mind that America is the only country in the world based on the ideals of private property. But, private property is incompatible with the collectivist premise of Sustainable Development.

If you doubt that, then consider this quote from the report of the 1976 UN’s Habitat I conference which said: “Land …cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principle instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth, therefore, contributes to social injustice.” 

Social justice is a major premise of Sustainable Development. Another word for social justice, by the way, is Socialism. Karl Marx was the first to coin the phrase “social justice.” 

And one of the most destructive tools they use to force it on us is something called the “precautionary principle.” That means that any activities that might threaten human health or the environment should be stopped — even if no clear cause and effect relationship has been established – and even if the potential threat is largely theoretical.

That makes it easy for any activist group to issue warnings by news release or questionable report and have those warnings quickly turned into public policy – just in case.

 Science, like economics, has been hi-jacked and used as a tool to take our liberties and make us more subservient to unaccountable groups like the UN and the Biulderbergs.  Soon it will be equivalent to "terrorism" if one actively works to debunk Al Gores pseudo science.  This is just another step in stripping away our national sovereignty – one world government based on a very old feudal world system.

Larry

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    Thought I would put my Czar humor here to lighten up a little

 

The US government has 15 "Czars" in the executive branch ("Car Czar", "Compensation Czar", etc.). I would much prefer "Car Pope" or "Compensation Pope" so we could presume some degree of infallibility when they speak Ex Cathedra.

Speaking of infallibility. If "we learn from our mistakes", don’t you think that failure is too important to leave to chance?
 

tedbits.blogspot.com/2009/06/we-need-failure-czar.html   to read the rest…. ENJOY!

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Hi Larry;

I’ve got a copy of the UN publication,  Agenda 21:  The United Nations Programme of Action from Rio, and I can confirm that its contents are every bit as insidious as this article alleges.  Anyone who wants to obtain a copy can do so from the UN web site, or you can read it online, here:  http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/documents/agenda21/index.htm.  For those without the time to plow through this tome, let me tell you that it is an incredibly boring document, with lots of new age mumbo-jumbo, that will glaze your eyes over long before you stumble on the passages that reveal the core of the plan:  massive depopulation of the planet.  In other passages, it clearly states that food can be validly used as a weapon.     I can’t recommend it for reading, except for those who doubt the reality of the agenda. 

 

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Unfortunately, you cannot even discuss this matter on most web sites as the dumbed down sheeple indoctrinated by TPTB are so brainwashed, starting from gradeschool forward if we are talking the U.S., as to assume it is a fact of life.

There is no global warming. Natural sunspot activity controls the earth’s warming and cooling cycles. Yes, some years ago that activity was up, the earth warmed up. But for about the last 10 years, that activity decreased and the earth is cooling.

I challenge anyone on the Web to show me islands being buried by thawing ice……That is so unscientific as to be laughable. I had a little science in college and I understand that when ice melts, the volume of the combination of ice and water goes down, not up. Can someone explain to me why science no longer interprets climate change but ideology does?

 

 

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Unfortunately, you cannot even discuss this matter on most web sites as the dumbed down sheeple indoctrinated by TPTB are so brainwashed, starting from gradeschool forward if we are talking the U.S., as to assume it is a fact of life.

There is no global warming. Natural sunspot activity controls the earth’s warming and cooling cycles. Yes, some years ago that activity was up, the earth warmed up. But for about the last 10 years, that activity decreased and the earth is cooling.

I challenge anyone on the Web to show me islands being buried by thawing ice……That is so unscientific as to be laughable. I had a little science in college and I understand that when ice melts, the volume of the combination of ice and water goes down, not up. Can someone explain to me why science no longer interprets climate change but ideology does?

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Hey man — 

Totally separate from the issue of whether GW is "true" or not, the reason melting ice/glaciers/etc. could cause sea levels to rise is that this water (stored in the form of icepack or glaciers) is above sea level in mountain etc. (or in the higher-than-sea-level central area of Greenland).  When that ice melts, it runs downhill to the ocean.  

The amount of ice/water tied up in glaciers/above-sea-level icepack is of course less than the Arctic/Antarctic icebergs (I think) but it is still significant from a rising-sea-level POV.

Viva — Sager

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Hey man — 

Totally separate from the issue of whether GW is "true" or not, the reason melting ice/glaciers/etc. could cause sea levels to rise is that this water (stored in the form of icepack or glaciers) is above sea level in mountain etc. (or in the higher-than-sea-level central area of Greenland).  When that ice melts, it runs downhill to the ocean.  

The amount of ice/water tied up in glaciers/above-sea-level icepack is of course less than the Arctic/Antarctic icebergs (I think) but it is still significant from a rising-sea-level POV.

Viva — Sager

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Hey Sagar:

No disrespect meant, as you are one of my favorite posters in here but I would love to get into the chemistry of this subject with someone. There are not enough glaciers in the world to raise the oceans an inch if they all melted. I would love to see the math if you think differently.

Most folks seem to think that the poles are melting and this is what will kill us. Put a gallon jug of water into your freezer and see if it contracts as some people seem to espouse. No, it will expand when frozen and your jug will bust. Freezing ice expands, thawing ice contracts. If you have a glass of ice tea in front of you and the ice melts, you will observe a lower liquid content in the glass after the ice melts, not a higher one. If the polar ice all melts the oceans will be lower, not higher. Islands will not be submerged, they will rise in sea level.

This entire GW deal is nothing more than a socialist movement for a global tax and to "spread the wealth" as Obama promised he would do. Speaking globally, it will spread the wealth from richer countries to third world countries because we are the ones with the largest "carbon footprint."

I hope the oligarchy doesn’t have you hooked on this nonsense. There is no such thing as global warming and I can produce 3 scientists to your 1 that says this is not science but the ultimate of stupidy that has ever been foisted on mankind should you want to go there.

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Jerry you have got my vote on this one!!

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[quote=SagerXX]

Hey man — 

Totally separate from the issue of whether GW is "true" or not, the reason melting ice/glaciers/etc. could cause sea levels to rise is that this water (stored in the form of icepack or glaciers) is above sea level in mountain etc. (or in the higher-than-sea-level central area of Greenland).  When that ice melts, it runs downhill to the ocean.  

The amount of ice/water tied up in glaciers/above-sea-level icepack is of course less than the Arctic/Antarctic icebergs (I think) but it is still significant from a rising-sea-level POV.

Viva — Sager

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Hey Sagar:

No disrespect meant, as you are one of my favorite posters in here but I would love to get into the chemistry of this subject with someone. There are not enough glaciers in the world to raise the oceans an inch if they all melted. I would love to see the math if you think differently.

Most folks seem to think that the poles are melting and this is what will kill us. Put a gallon jug of water into your freezer and see if it contracts as some people seem to espouse. No, it will expand when frozen and your jug will bust. Freezing ice expands, thawing ice contracts. If you have a glass of ice tea in front of you and the ice melts, you will observe a lower liquid content in the glass after the ice melts, not a higher one. If the polar ice all melts the oceans will be lower, not higher. Islands will not be submerged, they will rise in sea level.

This entire GW deal is nothing more than a socialist movement for a global tax and to "spread the wealth" as Obama promised he would do. Speaking globally, it will spread the wealth from richer countries to third world countries because we are the ones with the largest "carbon footprint."

I hope the oligarchy doesn’t have you hooked on this nonsense. There is no such thing as global warming and I can produce 3 scientists to your 1 that says this is not science but the ultimate of stupidy that has ever been foisted on mankind should you want to go there.

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Jerry,

I’m not interested in getting into a debate about GW. However, I am curious as to what you think of this: http://suprememastertelevision.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sos_video&wr_id=73&url=link1_0

Extract:

AT LEAST 18 ISLANDS SUBMERGED AROUND THE WORLD:
• Lohachara, India – 10,000 residents
• Bedford, Kabasgadi and Suparibhanga islands near India – 6,000 families
• Chesapeake Bay in Maryland, USA – 13 islands
• Kiribati – 3 atolls
• Half of Bangladesh’s Bhola Island permanently flooded – 500,000

Paul Tobasi – Government Representative of the Carteret Islands – It’s not their wish to go, but because of the situation; it’s forcing them to move.

ISLANDS SINKING OR AT RISK FROM RISING SEA LEVELS (over 40 nations):

Tuvalu – 12,000 residents with no more fresh drinking water and vegetable plots have washed away 

Ghoramara near India – 2/3 submerged as of 2006 with 7,000 residents already relocated

Neighboring island of Sagar – 250,000 residents also threatened

Some 50 other islands jeopardized in the India-Bangladesh Sundarbans, with a population of 2 million

Kutubdia in southeastern Bangladesh lost over 200,000 residents, with remaining 150,000 likely soon to depart

Maldives – 369,000 residents in the Indian Ocean, whose president wants to relocate the entire country

Marshall Islands – 60,000 residents

Kiribati – 107,800 residents, approximately 30 islands submerging

Tonga – 116,900 residents

Vanuatu – 212,000 residents, some of whom have already been evacuated and coastal villages relocated

Solomon Islands – 566,800 residents

Carteret Islands in Papua New Guinea – 2,500 residents whose land no longer supports agriculture

Shishmaref in Alaska, USA – 600 residents

Kivalini in Alaska, USA – 400 residents

Over 2,000 other islands in Indonesia

Dubai – 1.2 million residents in the United Arab Emirates considered at risk

There may be more islands, either uninhabited and/or not reported, that have submerged or are sinking due to climate change.

President Tong of the Island Nation of Kiribati:
We may be at the point of no return; our small low lying island will be submerged.
It’s an issue of human survival.If the world community, the different countries don’t kick the Carbon habits, there will be other countries next on the line.

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[quote=SagerXX]

Hey man — 

Totally separate from the issue of whether GW is "true" or not, the reason melting ice/glaciers/etc. could cause sea levels to rise is that this water (stored in the form of icepack or glaciers) is above sea level in mountain etc. (or in the higher-than-sea-level central area of Greenland).  When that ice melts, it runs downhill to the ocean.  

The amount of ice/water tied up in glaciers/above-sea-level icepack is of course less than the Arctic/Antarctic icebergs (I think) but it is still significant from a rising-sea-level POV.

Viva — Sager

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Hey Sagar:

No disrespect meant, as you are one of my favorite posters in here but I would love to get into the chemistry of this subject with someone. There are not enough glaciers in the world to raise the oceans an inch if they all melted. I would love to see the math if you think differently.

Most folks seem to think that the poles are melting and this is what will kill us. Put a gallon jug of water into your freezer and see if it contracts as some people seem to espouse. No, it will expand when frozen and your jug will bust. Freezing ice expands, thawing ice contracts. If you have a glass of ice tea in front of you and the ice melts, you will observe a lower liquid content in the glass after the ice melts, not a higher one. If the polar ice all melts the oceans will be lower, not higher. Islands will not be submerged, they will rise in sea level.

This entire GW deal is nothing more than a socialist movement for a global tax and to "spread the wealth" as Obama promised he would do. Speaking globally, it will spread the wealth from richer countries to third world countries because we are the ones with the largest "carbon footprint."

I hope the oligarchy doesn’t have you hooked on this nonsense. There is no such thing as global warming and I can produce 3 scientists to your 1 that says this is not science but the ultimate of stupidy that has ever been foisted on mankind should you want to go there.

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Like I said, "leaving aside GW"…  I’m agnostic on the issue.  The guano flies so fast and thick on this issue that it has become impossible IMO to know who’s fudging, who’s sincere but misguided, and who has the real "truth"…  So don’t worry, the oligarchs aren’t camped on my porch…

As for the "ice melting in the mountains could cause oceans to rise" thing:  here’s this from an article on msn.com

"How much, and how fast?  Virtually everyone agrees that the complete disappearance of the 2-mile-thick (3-kilometer-thick) Greenland Ice Sheet would cause an estimated 23-foot (7-meter) rise in global sea levels. That would inundate coastal regions around the world. At the same time, virtually everyone also agrees that even under the worst-case scenario, it would take centuries of warmer weather for Greenland’s ice to disappear completely."

This from scientificamerican.com:

"But Greenland contains an ice sheet that covers 1.7 million square kilometers–an area nearly the size of Mexico–and is as much as three kilometers thick in places. If it all melted, it would raise the world’s oceans by seven meters, though that is not likely to happen anytime soon."

And this from sciencemag.org:

"After a century of polar exploration, the past decade of satellite measurements has painted an altogether new picture of how Earth’s ice sheets are changing. As global temperatures have risen, so have rates of snowfall, ice melting, and glacier flow. Although the balance between these opposing processes has varied considerably on a regional scale, data show that Antarctica and Greenland are each losing mass overall. Our best estimate of their combined imbalance is about 125 gigatons per year of ice, enough to raise sea level by 0.35 millimeters per year."

My 3-dimensional math is not the strongest, so dividing 125 gigatons (metric or US tons?) by the surface area of the ocean to come up with .35 mm is not my cup of tea.  But as I said in my original post, completely aside from WHY the glacier ice is melting, is the fact that when it runs downhill and joins the ocean, the ocean level gets higher.  That was my point.  

Viva — Sager

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[quote=jerrydon10]Most folks seem to think that the poles are melting and this is what will kill us. Put a gallon jug of water into your freezer and see if it contracts as some people seem to espouse. No, it will expand when frozen and your jug will bust. Freezing ice expands, thawing ice contracts. If you have a glass of ice tea in front of you and the ice melts, you will observe a lower liquid content in the glass after the ice melts, not a higher one. If the polar ice all melts the oceans will be lower, not higher. Islands will not be submerged, they will rise in sea level.[/quote]

Jerry,

This is an interesting, but inaccurate, analogy. If the ice in the ice tea is floating in the tea, your observation is correct. But, if the ice was outside of the tea, but the water from melting ice would drain into the ice, the level of your ice tea would rise. The same would be true of continental ice shelves.

I’m not arguing for the truth of falsehood of global warming, or ocean levels rising, just pointing out that this analogy doesn’t support your argument.

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