A very dark view of mRNA vaccines; The warning from Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche

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  • Thu, Mar 25, 2021 - 07:16am

    Mike from Jersey

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    A very dark view of mRNA vaccines; The warning from Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche

The FDA has sent out a cease and desist letter to Joseph Mercola relating to his promotion of products containing Vitamin C, Vitamin D3 and Quercetin for the treatment of Covid 19.






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    A very dark view of mRNA, Variants of concern….

The finding means there’s likely an uptick in variants circulating throughout the county, which could mean increased transmissibility and potentially more severe illness. Variants may also evade antibodies generated by COVID-19 vaccines, a study found.

Among the 73 specimens that were analyzed in labs this past week, the county’s public health department found that 63% of them were variants of concern:

‘Variants of concern’ made up majority of L.A. County coronavirus samples tested this past week

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    Im convinced but it doesnt matter

You know the old line “you had me at ‘hello'”?

You had me when I learned the drug companies had refused to release the vaccine until they were assured of legal immunity against lawsuits.

This stuff is all very interesting but from what I see there are only two issues; 1. The system wants you to take this vaccine. Its not listening and does not care what you think or say. You can make the best, most scientific argument in the world it makes absolutely no difference. Because this isnt a scientific issue, its a political issue.

2. You dont want to take the vaccine. You really dont need a reason, and again, whether or not you have one isnt going to change anything.

So the REAL issue, the thing we should all be discussing [ but nobody is ], is 1. How do they plan to pressure/force you to take it. 2. How can you resist and evade their efforts.

Thats ALL that matters. You will either take it or not.

  • Thu, Mar 25, 2021 - 09:22am

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    How can you resist and evade their efforts?

Yep, B Hog, you nailed it.  When they have to resort to drumming up non-news about the emerging “scariants” you know they are grasping at straws.

A quick look at the overall case and death curves tells the seasonal story.  Game over.

For this season.

Now next season will be…next season!  Flu?  May be back.  C19 could revisit.  Scariant B.1.1.22 or whatever?  Could happen.  But like all viral situations in all of recorded medical history it too will come and will go.

So either fortify your personal/health terrain (as PP members here know how to do), or put your chin down, close your eyes, and run harder on your treadmill of fear and peril.

As to question #1 and #2 in the above post, recognize the truth of the political root and try to live outside the political system.  Don’t let it effect you.  It is pervasively around us, but know you are “behind enemy lines” so to speak.  And then live accordingly.

As to “the REAL issue” questions at the end of the above post,  I have already been under family, social, and commercial engagement pressure to cave in.  My response has been to modify some family relationships, forego some commerce, and step aside from some organizations  for a while, maybe a long while.

And example is the local ham radio club I belong to.  They only allow “vaccinated” people to attend meetings.  It is interesting they did not make the participation metric “immunity”.  Instead they stipulate “vaccinated”.  And by that they are missing issue on so many levels and revealing some very wrong thinking.

But myself and many others are immune for many reasons.  None of which matter to that larger group.  They have abandoned critical thinking and just go with vaccination non-sense.

Many of my family have taken the Moderna and Pfizer shots.  Frankly, I am horrified that if the ADE/Pathogenic priming issue is even a fraction of what Cahill and Boosche suggest there might be some real tragedies in my family.

As far as government coercion, that has so far been pushed back with the law, since here in USA the vax is clearly, and technically, and under the EUA “experimental” and cannot be forced directly or by reduction of rights and public benefits or participation.   But the authorities try.  Vigilance is required.  There are a number of legal activist organizations helping on this front.

Stay informed.  And be supportive.

Tomorrow things may change.  Turning to courts is only good when the “juridocracy” still respects the law.  But that is also changing.

There may be a time when you might choose to not leave your homestead for quite a long time.


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    Reply To: A very dark view of mRNA vaccines; The warning from Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche

Traditionally there were three reasons under state law you might forego a mandated vaccine (for instance, so your child can go to school). Personal, medical, and religious. Big Pharma has been working very hard to push back on these state laws in as many states as possible. When the only option is a medical waiver from your doctor, that becomes extremely problematic for the doctor. Because it is very easy to keep lists of which doctors are providing the waivers and then go after them and their license on spurious grounds. Far fewer doctors are willing to jeopardize their license.

The goal is mandated vaccines for as many adults as possible. We’re headed in that direction. Get to know what is happening in your state and how you might be able to make a difference. Emergency Use Authorization status may help for the time being but not for the long term.

  • Thu, Mar 25, 2021 - 10:03am

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    Moves to force vaccination on the non-submissive

Related to this topic is this headline.

Covid-19: Pubs could require vaccine passports – Boris Johnson


  • Thu, Mar 25, 2021 - 10:21am

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    Vaccine escape

I found a very interesting website. It tracks the evolution of variants of Sars-Cov 2. It tracks variants over time, by nation and by the extent of the divergence of a strain from the original strain.

Here is the page dealing with variants in the United States. It includes a graph showing change for the past fifteen months. You can find that graph if you scroll down the page. It will show the dominant strains in the United States at any  given time period during the last fifteen months. The interesting thing is that – in just that time – the dominant strains have completely changed. The strain that was dominant at the beginning, can barely be found at all at the present time.

With mutations occurring that fast, one must wonder how long the vaccines will work at all.


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    A very dark view of mRNA vaccines; The warning from Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche

Thank you, All, for the good information.  Yes, Group Therapy, I was thinking maybe whole families will get wiped out.

Having always been financially limited, I learned to be frugal, shop sales, buy in bulk, save some money, invest in inflation sensitive items, early on.  In the early 2000s, I realized, the survivors would be either be the very wealthy or the poor.  My goal, over time, is to get small. By luck, I bought property in 2012, market bottom.  At this point, I could not even afford to rent the property I have.

In addressing some long standing health challenges, I have studied and tweaked my diet to the point, now, I can ignore 95%  of the “food” products in the super market.  I am now seeking at least two, or more, sources, on line, local or store front, for the things I currently think I need.  This list of things, “I think I need” will continue to hopefully become smaller over time.  As I get healthier and stronger, mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually.

Small is beautiful.  Good luck to all.

  • Thu, Mar 25, 2021 - 10:32am   (Reply to #144)



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    Evading Their Efforts

It might be two sides of a coin, but time may work in our favor. The powers that be are pushing hard and fast to control the population and enforce their will regarding vaccinations.  If Dr. Bossche and others are correct, the impact of mass vaccination during a pandemic will soon be shown to be accurate in terrible ways.  Virus variants are already increasing.  Growing awareness of the negative side of the vaccine might work in our favor.

Even Kool-aid sipping advocates of the vaccine and  are becoming aware of the post-jab problems. As I asked my pro-jab sister about her hesitancy about fulfilling her dream trip to the Baltic Sea this summer, “Why not take your vax passport and have a good time?” Her response was that it might be too dangerous. Her inner self already knows the truth.

I worry about my family members who have succumbed to the propaganda.  I suggest once more that we try to encourage our  vaxxed friends and family to get on board with ivermectin used post-vax. It might save their lives.

  • Thu, Mar 25, 2021 - 11:14am   (Reply to #139)


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    A very dark view of mRNA vaccines; The warning from Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche

Well, for one thing, the covid daily new case count chart for Turkey in the linked article has the identical appearance and  formatting to the worldometer charts, but the data has been altered to conform with the writer’s assertions (not sure if it was by him or someone else).  This doesn’t bode well for trustworthiness or quality of research.  It would be worthwhile to check charts for other countries as well.


Furthermore, in 1992, women aged 15-39 comprised 20.1% of the world population of 5.5 billion for a total of about 1.1 billion.  In less developed regions excluding China, the total is  617 million.  The article claims 150 million women ages 14-40 were sterilized in this region.  This should have resulted in a rapid 25% reduction in birth rate in the region.

This birth rate data shows a continuation of the gradual decline through the 1990s in both least and lesser developed countries.  Less developed regions declined about 20% in 10 years (probably significantly less if China is excluded) and least developed regions declined 10% in 10 years from 1985-1990 through 1995-2000.  I suspect one of those includes China, but China’s trend from the five year average 1985-1990 through 1995-2000 is stronger than either of them, so they should show a lesser trend without China.

My assessment – the writer is not trustworthy enough to get the basic “facts” to pass a few simple truth tests.

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