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    Decoding Omicron

    Everything We Know (and Don't Know) About the Latest Variant of Concern
    by Chris Martenson

    Friday, November 26, 2021, 10:21 PM

Part I of this exclusive report details what we know about the new SARS-CoV-2 ‘variant of concern’.

News of this new variant absolutely smashed across the world stage on Wednesday/Thursday of the US Thanksgiving holiday week.

The wall of coverage was intense and saturating. Every major print and news video outlet in every western nation covered this new variant in-depth and in urgent, if not overtly fearful tones. Even ‘weather.com’ managed to sneak out an “everything you need to know” article in just a few hours.

On Thursday (Thanksgiving) night stock futures began to tumble and on the shortened trading day of Friday (11/26/21) US equities were hammered for big losses. The US Dow lost over 1100 points when the brief (15 min) aftermarket futures session is included:


Oil was utterly smashed. Down more than 13% oil sent a huge, huge message:


These messages, in total, scream: “LOCKDOWNS COMING! ECONOMY AND TRAVEL TO BE CRUSHED!!”

Is this warranted? Did a scary new variant suddenly emerge that warrants this level of coverage, concern, handwringing and even outright panic?

No, not even close. More carefully, I should say, “no, there’s simply not enough information to ascertain at this point if this new variant is of greater, lesser, or no additional concern at all.”

In Part II I will let you know what I suspect is really at work here, and why, but since those are my speculations, opinions, and ‘best guesses’ they have to remain behind our member paywall for now. I wish I could still operate in the complete open, but I’ve learned that people like me who care about evidence and letting the data form our conclusions (rather than the other way around) are allowed zero errors. People holding the center mass view, who are often and routinely not just wrong, but spectacularly wrong, are never held to account and rarely even questioned about their horribly deficient and misleading track records.

The Details

This new variant, initially identified in samples taken in Botswana on November 11th and named “Nu” was quickly renamed “Omicron” by the W.H.O. By the end of the day on Friday, Nov. 26th, the W.H.O. had declared it a “variant of concern.” It was initially detected in 4 diplomats who had traveled to Botswana (from where I don’t know). It has since been detected in Hong Kong within a traveler in quarantine, and then within samples in Gauteng, South Africa.

It’s a weird beast with a lot of genetic changes and it absolutely deserves deeper inquiry into its exact mutations in order to gain an understanding of why it has freaked so many people out.  But we have zero clinical or outcome data to suggest if it’s better, worse, or neutral as far as its health impacts.

As a reminder, a live virus particle consists of a string of nucleic (or genetic) material – the instructions – packaged inside a carefully constructed capsule made up of many different individual proteins stuck to the outside of, or sometimes protruding through, a lipid membrane capsule. In the case of SARS-CoV-2 there are ~30 different proteins encoded by the instructions.

It’s those viral proteins that are the focus here. Each protein is assembled out of a series of molecular building blocks, which are themselves called amino acids. There are 20 amino acids in all used by nature out of which the entire fascinating, magnificent universe of proteins are assembled.

One way to think of amino acids is like those necklace beads that pop together and then back apart again, but with each amino acid being a plastic bead of a different color and shape from all the rest. Kind of like these:

A ‘protein’ then is a specific necklace made up of a very specific pattern of colors and shapes. Because of that unique assembly, every protein has entirely different shapes and functions from all the others.

You’re read a lot about the spike protein – that is an ~1286 long amino acid chain. Because of its precise ‘string of beads’ it binds extremely well to human ACE2 receptors (and several others, unfortunately) but far less so to other species. Were the string of beads any different at all, it would either lose or gain some of its many functions that allow it to bind to and enter humans cells.

With that background, we can discuss “variants.” Each variant is a faithful copy of a virus that was rather unfaithfully copied. Mistakes were made during the reproduction of the genetic (or nucleic) instructions. Because of those instructional errors, the new genetic code does not code for the original virus particle with its very precise protein strings, but instead has one or more of those amino acid ‘beads’ replaced by another.

If the original colors of the necklace were:

red-blue-red-yellow-green-green-blue

Now they might be:

red-red-red-yellow-green-green-blue

Every variant has a unique ‘fingerprint’ at least one or usually many of these exchanged amino acids. The wonkish details include the way these things are talked about using scientific shorthand, which you’ve certainly encountered by now. Every amino acid used by the virus is numbered beginning with the first amino acid in the first protein and ending with he last one in the last protein. Further, each amino acid is represented by a single letter of the alphabet. So if we saw P681 that would mean there was the amino acid named Proline in the 681 position. If we saw P681R, that would be shorthand for a mutation that saw the P swapped our for an “R” or Arginine (A was already taken, so R it is!).

And that’s a mutation right there! One amino acid swapped out for another. One colored shaped bead in a chain swapped out for another. A red apple for a yellow banana. New shape, new color and a brand new function.

That specific mutation, P681R, was one of the more critical ones that made Delta what it was. That specific location was the P in the PRRA which was, infamously, the inserted furin cleavage site so fondly used by gain of function researchers in labs, but that’s another story for another day.

99.999% of the time mutational changes are so deleterious to the viral lifecycle that the affected virus cannot reproduce and the lineage dies on the spot. Boom! Gone. Done-in-one.

But very rarely, every so often, one of them magically makes the virus even more transmissive and then that lineage is off to the races. Because it reproduces faster, better, easier it also gains “market share” very rapidly from the existing strains and before you know it, it’s the dominant strain.

Like this:

In the graphic above we see the epsilon strain first losing ‘market share’ to the alpha strain which itself then lost market share to the delta strain. That happened because each successive strain was simply better at transmitting than the prior strain(s). That’s how nature works. This ‘selective pressure’ is simply a statement about how something that can reproduce faster and/or better evade defenses, will have an easier time of spreading within and between afflicted individuals.

What makes this variant so different and of such a concern? Simply put, the sheer number of mutations and (gasp!) even an inserted brand-new sequence coding for three brand new colored necklace beads (amino acids).

Which means it is taking over fast in terms of “market share” or prevalence:

That blue wedge at the end is nearly vertical. However, let’s remember that this is “sequenced genomes” and we cannot know how many that is as a proportion of the overall population, whether there was sampling bias or other dynamics such as measuring a large blip within a tiny shrinking pool.

After all, 80% of one hundred is just 80, while 80% of a million is 800,000. So always keep such ‘percentage charts’ at an emotional distance because they can be (and often are meant to be) emotionally misleading.

The first part of the above example is pretty much what I understand the situation to be. Here’s the state of what was known on November 25th:

That’s right, there were just 82 total known sequenced examples (cases?) of B.1.1.529 in the whole world at that point. How many deaths? None that I have yet heard of (here on Nov 26th at 8 pm EST). How many hospitalizations? Not one.

So, the tally so far:

• 82 total cases
• Zero hospitalizations
• Zero deaths
• One entire world freaking out

Now why the freakout?

Well, probably because the family tree for this variant makes zero evolutionary sense. At least to me. So far every subsequent mutation that has led to a new variant, or to a new family of variants (called a ‘clade’) has an easily tracked family history. Each new mutation is built upon the prior mutations.

If you plot these out with dots and line the resulting graph looks like a sideways shrub. Not with Omicron, or B.1.1.529. It sticks out like a whole different thing all on its own. I get concerned on a variety of levels when I see something so unusual, and I guess other people do too (but probably for very different reasons):

(Source)_ https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1464353245380243457/photo/1

The way I read this ‘family tree’ it’s like someone reached all the way back to April 2020, plucked out an existing variant (having only the D614G mutation in common with every other clade & variant) and then somehow, magically, all by itself, came up with not one, not two, not ‘a few,’ but twenty new mutations never before seen in any other variant of concern.

Here’s the complete list from @JeffreyBarett on Twitter:

(Source – Twitter) https://twitter.com/jcbarret/status/1463975708770897923

• Blue and three shades of purple = 19 never before seen amino acid substitutions.

• Red = 9 mutations seen or similar to those seen in other variants of concern. Of note is the P681H which, like the aRginine in P681R sees a basic amino acid hot-swapped into the furin cleavage site possibly (probably) rendering it even more super-charged. In this case the H is histidine, a basic amino acid.

• Green is the ubiquitous D614G which must have been so awesome that every strain/clade/variant saw fit to keep that one in the pool.

• Yellow = 3 brand spanking new, never seen before, changes that could possibly be a problem due to their locations.

Yikes! It’s going to take a while to figure out what that all means

What we don’t know

What bothers me is how much fear and reaction has already gone into this new variant given that we don’t yet have any data at all to suggest that it will have a more dire health consequence. It might, and it’s possible that it might evade current vaccines and even natural immunity, but then again it might not.

That has not stopped the hyperbolic expression of science-free and incautious statements such as these:

Yes, it might be poorly recognized by neutralizing antibodies. Or that might not be an issue. Or it might be that the variant doesn’t cause much harm beyond being transmissive. We simply don’t know yet.

The hyperbole has been off the charts. The science and data-free assertions by a wall of so-called experts about how terrible this variant is going to be has left me practically stunned. And those of you who know me understand that I have a very high degree of tolerance for absorbing hyperbolic BS and not being affected by it.

Conclusion

So far it’s been much ado and hopefully about nothing. We simply don’t yet know enough of anything to state one way or the other if this new weirdly mutated variant will be of greater, lesser, or neutral concern.

We can say that the fear pipes have been blasted on full and well out of proportion to what is actually known so far.

We don’t know how or if those already vaccinated will fare. Better? Worse? We don’t know how the unvaccinated will fare. Better? Worse?

We don’t know how the existing early treatments will perform. Better? Worse?

We don’t know if B..1.1.529 is stable or if it will now spawn an entire new bevy of downstream relations (however, it’s very likely) each with their own attributes, good and bad.

I will be tracking this very closely and doing what I do; informing and educating you as I perform in my role as information scout.

In closing, my own entrant in the naming sweepstakes failed:

I do have my concerns about the reactions and responses and these I will save for Part II for our subscribers. As has been the theme all along in this debacle, things are not as they appear…

Continue to Part II here.

 

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 11:26pm

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    Paul M.

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    Paul M. said:

    THE COVID-19 FRAUD & WAR ON HUMANITY

    This doctor says that there hasn't been as actual isolated virus for the pathogen and the ways the virology community confirm it's existence is straight up false when you break it down. Would love if Chris commented on it or someone who is into virology cause it challenges the way they confirm their trade and most likely their very belief systems. Like so much of covid is straight up bs,  that this makes sense how it's laid out.

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 11:33pm

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    TXalchemist

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    Xi

    I'm still waiting until we get to variant Xi!

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 11:54pm

    dreinmund

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    re: no actual virus ?

    So, what then, exactly, makes people sick and die ? Don’t tell me it’s just mass psychosis.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 12:43am

    Gregory

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    what then, exactly, makes people sick and die?

    what then, exactly, makes people sick and die ?

    lack of appropriate treatment for other real illnesses/diseases.

    delay of appropriate treatment.

    incorrect and damaging treatment for the real illnesses/diseases.

    psychological affects on the human body by the new government and society imposed environments and 'protective' protocols, including pressure, depression and loneliness (and not being able to attend church).

    physical affects on the human body by new technologies (eg 5G).

    shedding of S spikes from vaccinated people.

    also trojan-horse seasonal flu shots actually planting various man-made viruses into the patient. the shots have the additional advantage of being able to repress the patient's immune system, allowing other normally sedated illnesses/diseases to wake up and grow.

    you can't believe anything the hospitals and doctors tell you, so all of these could cause illness with the hospitals/doctors then telling you that you have covid.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 2:41am

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    Gregory said

    you can't believe anything the hospitals and doctors tell you, so all of these could cause illness with the hospitals/doctors then telling you that you have covid.

    Mass psychosis has gone far, but it hasn't gone that far. Other coronaviruses exist. This one exists too. We have the genome and we have scientists studying the virus as well as the disease. We are reasonably sure it was created in a lab, and have data to back that up. I'm open to listening to any hypothesis because I think it's necessary, but it requires science. Since many of us aren't scientifically or data inclined, it also takes more diligent studying and skepticism, as well as some healthy self reflection when observing.

    Truth deducing requires getting a good footing on each conclusion before moving forward to the next. Even thousands of years ago people knew that the earth wasn't flat, and they did that by measuring shadows in different geographical locations. There are a lot more data points being parsed through here, too many, but to reach a conclusion that Covid doesn't exist would be to negate them altogether in exchange for a grandiose "one size fits all" hypothesis built on social momentum without credibility.

    Could 5G be making people sick? Maybe. Could Covid shots be contaminated with graphene oxide? It's possible. I really wouldn't know.

    The difference I see in what eventually is proven true is that a consensus is developed from many minds individually, with similar repeatable findings. I haven't seen one such consensus around the "covid doesn't exist" theory, among many others.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:21am

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    richcabot

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    Too many changes

    With that many unique changes in its sequence it is likely a lab creation.  I'll bet it was specifically engineered to be less treatable by repurposed drugs like IVM and HCQ.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:58am

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    They had to rekindle - all the others were burning out

    They lost the fire.  It was clear, no matter where you looked the surges and waves were calming and calming.  Delta gave a good show, but ultimately began to fizzle.    They simply rekindled.  ( they didn't get enough uptake of the vaccine - at the right time withing the right time-frame -- They blew it )

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 4:05am

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    Possible with pcr tests?

    http://www.rumble.com/vprog0-pcr-testing-planet-lockdown-film.html

    Is it possible that using the pcr test is getting pieces of other pathogens and diagnosing a positive hit as covid? Sure looks that way. Being able to create case numbers and change policy towards the control level desired is very convenient for tptb. The pcr test as a way to find"this virus"never made sense to me and it's use for the first time in history just like all the other novel stuff about this only makes sense when you come to other conclusions first.

    RE; 1st thread comment. Not truly understanding the depth of virology gone into in the 1st comment video as someone without background can get from it. I wish to know if it is possible from another educated opinion (and her thesis falls outside my Overton window of acceptability at this time). It is hard to accept as a possibility, but during this data driven journey over the past two years or so; many parts of the world that I thought I knew too be true have undeniably been incorrect. That being said it is in the realm of possibility and the incentives are many. The mode and model and the means are do-able no matter if it's not something I could admit to having had fallen for, it's hard to imagine that it could be that way. But however unlikely it is- if it's possible-it could be what this is. Other papers from scientific sources are dubious at best with their findings and that's why I was wondering if some one more accomplished in the field could come in and say if what the Dr. is wrong/ right on and say how/ why. So far it's only mine/ others speculation in response to the claims she makes.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 6:40am

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    Engineered

    The drug companies have made a lot of money from coronavirus. This may well be their most effective business model, to manufacture vaccines based on a public health crisis.

    Now that they understand how much money they make, what would prevent them from finding a biologist who can edit genes to manufacture a variant so that they can make even more money?

    Given that you can buy a home genetic editing kit from the internet for under $300 that will be sophisticated enough to splice jellyfish DNA into yeast DNA, all you need to find is someone who is psychopathic enough to collect a large paycheck to do it

    I mean this just looks like more gain of function research.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:07am

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    Omicron has 20 odd mutations? Could mutigen Molnupiravir be doing that?

    Just a crazy question! Molnupiravir is supposed to work by mutating the genetic info of the virus during replication to make it unviable? Could it be that Molnupiravir is a terrifying virus mutation generator? If it's possible that's the cause of the large number of mutations at once, what could the drug do to other viruses too?

    Hopefully my poor understanding is just badly wrong!

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:09am

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    Omigod!

    Fitting name for this latest variant. Thank you, Information Scout. Might there be variations of no concern going undetected, mutations never identified that lead to those that get discovered?

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:21am

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    Re: what then, exactly, makes people sick and die?

    Occam’s razor says there is a virus.
    Mass psychosis is real, and can lead to the effects, but it can’t be turned on over night like a switch. TPTB are definitely using this crisis to build on it. But I don’t see it possible that the crisis is 100% manufactured. Too many people got sick and died that are both vaxx and Covid deniers.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:25am

    Gregory

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    Gregory said:

    other coronaviruses exist.

    yes.

    we have the genome

    yes and no. it's a theoretical genome designed to scare people. it might be in the vaccines. it's not in nature. as other people have stated, the physical virus has not been isolated. if it hasn't be isolated, how do you 'sequence' it? if it hasn't been isolated, does it exist?

    we have scientists studying the virus

    which scientists? who are they working for? are they studying the virus or the sequence?

    people are assuming that the virus is real. that's part of the fear. prove that the virus is real (and physical) otherwise stop being scared.

    btw, the elites would never allow a real virus to be released into the world. there would be no way to guarantee their personal safety.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:40am

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    the blame-e said:

    "Science" (if science even exists anymore), says COVID was created in a lab. You cannot mix HIV DNA cells in with a miRNA virus except in a lab. The only kind of lab capable of this kind of work is a BSL-4 Lab.

    There is only one (1) BSL-4 Lab in Canada (in Winnipeg). Chinese scientists were arrested smuggling genetic material to China.

    There is only one (1) BSL-4 Lab in Wuhan, China (that we know of). And a "Bat Lady" is in charge of that.

    There are fifteen (15) BSL-4 Lab(s) in the United States, and Dr. Fauci (Mr. Science himself), has had his evil hands in all of them.

    Gee. 15 to 1. We created death on our own front doorstep. It got loose. It turned on us. End of story.

    "Gain of Function" is an Act of War.

    So why haven't the nukes started falling? Because we'd be bombing ourselves.

    News Flash: We've already nuked ourselves.

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:53am

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    the blame-e said:

    ". . . [T]he elites would never allow a real virus to be released into the world. there would be no way to guarantee their personal safety."

    And, perhaps, the elites (the hoi pollio), made sure to create and then take "the cure" before they released this WMD into the world.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:55am

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    the blame-e said:

    The body cannot survive without the mind. You can kill a people with fear and propaganda and lies. The body cannot survive without the mind.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 9:07am

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    Omigod!

     Might there be variations of no concern going undetected, mutations never identified that lead to those that get discovered?

    Yes.  Absolutely.

    They happen all the time.

    Look, this new variant may well be the dreaded escape variant that Geert warned us all about all those months ago. It may come from a lab.  It may be worse from a health perspective, or it may not.

    I am wide open to all that we will learn from and about this variant and its wide spectrum of mutations.

    It also remains true that the reporting and coverage of this has been over-the-top fear porn and very much out of balance with the actual facts on the ground.

    How did this "reporter" come to these very declarative conclusions within hours of the press release/announcement of the dreaded new variant? In my experience, such well-arranged talking points are distributed by someone in advance to the stenographers who work at these various propaganda outlets.

    Here's one early take, from the 26th, with all the talking points neatly laid out, in The Australian:

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 9:22am

    richcabot

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    Read RFK Jr's book

    RFK Jr's book exposes the massive corruption of vaccine and drug, research and development.  Virtually all controlled by Fauci and Gates.  Almost no one will buck the system because it is literally career ending to do so.

    Chris said he had read parts of it.  I suspect he may not have finished it because the book explains lots of things that are currently happening.

    Get the book and read it all.  It's pretty amazing.  It's also heavily referenced, thousands of them.

    Warning, it will destroy illusions about much more than just vaccines.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 9:58am

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    You won’t win on this website.

    Every health care professional in my family, totaling 7, and every pro I talk to, says, first, it’s real and second 90% of the people in the hospital, or with serious Covid issues are unvaccinated.  Four of my family pros have caught mild covid, with three losing their sense of taste (psychosis), not counting other family members, who have become mildly Covid psychotic.

    You might as well give it up.  This website is now dominated by people who are not open minded on the subject of Covid, or Covid vaccines.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 10:23am

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    Omicron and PCR

    One piece of positive news was that the variant is able to be detected by normal PCR tests so can be closely monitored.

    of course it can. how convenient!

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 10:50am

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    The virus WAS isolated

    https://www.flemingmethod.com/documentation

    Please see paper #20 in the above link. For video footage of the live virus under the CET please go to the 2:12:50 mark of this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ0MYmKY8_U&ab_channel=RichardFleming

    I highly recommend watching the entire video! It is long but well worth it!!

    My interpretation of people saying the virus has never been isolated is that they are saying a 'wild' virus has never been isolated. SARS CoV-2 is not a wild virus, it is a synthetic version, created in a lab, so that it could be patented. Dr. David Martin has given us all the evidence we need to prove that - see here: Dr Martin gives evidence to Corona Investigative Committee.

    To keep promoting the erroneous theory that the virus has never been isolated, is, in my opinion as a non-scientist, extremely counterproductive. It shifts focus off of the real target, taking precious time and energy away from pursuing the various avenues, scientific, medically and legally that we need to be laser focused on to put an end to this manufactured crisis.

    If those who are of the belief that the virus has never been isolated have data and evidence to refute the above information, I would really appreciate it being posted here so that I (we) can review it.

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 11:33am

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    Gregory said:

    the "Materials and Methods" section is missing. they did not specify from where they got the virus.

    a virus 'in the wild' as opposed to a virus from a lab is *very* different and significant. the referenced study also used simulations.

    different opinions are indicative of a healthy conversation. it's all good.

    as for the LesPhelps' family members who developed covid, I would inquire if they had taken flu shots as required of staff by many hospitals.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 11:45am

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    I'm open minded. Are you? What would convince you there IS a virus?

    Here are a few facts YOU must account for:

    We have a disease and we have an mRNA "vaccine" (gene therapy), which only code for one protein (of, I think I read, five or more)of the  putative virus: the spike.  These two things produce substantially the SAME adverse effects:  notably massive clotting, inflamation, heart attack, etc.    Indeed, here is a list of common vaccine side effects from yandex:

    https://swprs.org/covid-vaccine-adverse-events/     <--note, this is worth seeing, if you can stomach the disturbing photographs.   I should hope you will appreciate I found this by searching yandex.  I am pretty sure this would be hard or impossible to "find" with google -- so it is probably NOT bogus.

    How likely is that by chance?  Do you have any idea how hard it would be to have a "psychological" virus (or whatever you think it is) which shows up and, over a period of months, evidences numerous ways of attacking the body ...  and ONE YEAR LATER come up with an injectable "vaccine" which mimics such a substantial number of the  adverse events in a "vaccine"?  Note that the "vaccine" would be much better accepted if it didn't have such clear adverse events -- I presume you think Our Masters actually want more people to take their vaccine?    So, why and HOW does the bogus vaccine mimic all these symptoms? And how does that benefit The Masters and the vaccine makers?

    Are you also saying there is no spike protein in the "vaccines"?   (but we have photographs!  Which are censored by google, facebook, twitter, etc.)

    Wouldn't it be easier just to make a virus and then make the vaccine produce similar symptoms, than to do all that mimicry without an actual disease?

    Coming at this from another front:  there are a lot of different types of vaccines out there.

    Some are mRNA

    Some are adenoviruses (supposedly harmless to humans) with the spike protein RNA grafted in via genetic engineering.   (e.g., J&J)

    SOME ARE WHOLE ATTENUATED SARS-COV2 VIRUSES.  Sinopharm is a Chinese made vaccine which is widely distributed throughout the world.   IT IS THE WHOLE VIRUS YOU SAY DOESN'T EXIST -- YOU SAY HAS NEVER BEEN "ISOLATED", absent only a protective sheath (without which it can't cause much harm).

    Please account FULLY for that uncomfortable fact:  that there is no virus -- but there is an attenuated virus.

    Can you imagine for a few seconds  (believe without evidence) that there MAY BE an actual SARS-COV-2 (or whatever) virus?  If you can't, why can't you -- it's YOUR brain, your fantasy, why can't you believe "nonsense" for a few seconds and try it on?   If you can't, doesn't that mean your brain is defective?  I mean, *I* can absolutely believe for a few seconds that there is no virus. I have that mental flexibility - why don't you?

    So, if you can do that, just for a few seconds, how does it feel?  If you can't, why not?   What "information" and what sources of information you would now have to discard, if such a major portion of your world view turned out to be false? 

    That, by the way, is what a good scientist is supposed to be able to do:  to come up with a hypothesis -- to even want that hypothesis to be true (because, maybe, it would mean a nobel prize and a job)  and THEN proceed to gather information to falsify his or her own hypothesis.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 11:58am

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    Speaking of illusions...

    Hi Les,

    From comment #18

    Warning, it will destroy illusions about much more than just vaccines.

    I would like to ask if you have read RFK Jr's book yet? I am hoping that you have an open enough mind to consider what I see as being irrefutable, credible, well researched information. The kind that tends to wake people up, compelling them to question everything they thought they knew to be true.

    Some people want to see credible evidence to try to ascertain the truth, and will read it, even though it may make them feel deeply uncomfortable. Others are unwilling to do this largely because the truth represents a threat to dearly held belief systems, which causes great discomfort.

    The truth can be brutal! But it is the truth that sets us free.

     

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 12:03pm

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    verme said:

    Suggesting that those who say  "the virus has never been isolated" are saying a "'wild' virus has never been isolated" is giving too much credit. I think that they are saying exactly what they are thinking, that it is all made up. With all the lies and group-think we are surrounded with, who can blame them?

    Wild or not there is a new disease that does occasionally have devastating effects. There is also a of virus that has been found in samples from lots of noses and sequenced to reveal a rather suspicious genetic lineage.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 12:16pm

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    Boudica said:

    The thing that I have the hardest time with is unraveling some of the competing theories that seem to be mutually exclusive.  We cannot have both a hoax virus AND the need to Ivermectin and the likes of FLCCC.  I would love to see @chrismartenson do his magic and compile a list of all of the swirling theories and identify the ones that can co exist and the ones that cannot both occupy the same space and give is educated opinions.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 12:33pm

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    Swirling theories

    It’s important to go with the data. Use that to review the many competing theories.

    When we have official lies, theories flourish to explain them. Many people likely believe in some of them - but they can’t all be true. There are too many inconsistencies and contradictions between them.

    So we shouldn’t create or adopt more theories than necessary to explain things. We should use Occam’s and Hanson’s razors.

    Also, a useful counterintelligence tool is creating wild theories. It confuses the opposition as they go down rabbit hole after rabbit hole. It also discredits them which slows down the spread of information to new people.

    We can separate the theories into evidentiary categories: what is proven and not controversial; what is possible; what is tentative; what is impossible; etc. The other category to include is what is arbitrary: what is asserted without evidence.

    As always the burden of proof is with he who asserts the theory.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 12:37pm

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    Primary Care_MD said:

    I had covid. I also took care of dozens of patients with covid, who tested positive on a rapid antigen test. A couple days later, a different family member or close friend would come in with similar symptoms and also test positive. It was the familiar pattern of a moderately contagious, but usually mild, viral illness.

    The virus exists. It's the latest iteration of SARS I and MERS (these also were never found in nature). We know who made SARS-CoV-2, and when, and where, and why. They didn't even TRY to cover their tracks. They patented the PRRA furin site, et al. They patented the vaccine BEFORE the pandemic (see David Martin, PhD).

    I bet the variants were made by the same people, but prob. in different labs.

    We know who's benefitting from its release. And we know who's suffering, as wealth and power get more and more concentrated. The Fed keeps printing money, till we get to 'full employment,' but that's another obvious lie.

    Every other country is reporting the majority of hospitalized patients were/are vaccinated. The US has deliberately poisoned its data through the secretive HHS Protect data center (run by Palantir), and by constantly changing the definition of who's "vaccinated". Have CDC, Fauci, MSM ever told the truth, or been transparent, on anything re covid? No. Its an agenda, a psy-op. Drs. and RNs who speak the truth get fired.

     

    .............

     

    The whole question of 'does the virus exist' reminds me of the missing 28 pages from the 9/11 report:

    Known as the “28 pages,” the secret document was part of a 2002 Congressional Joint Inquiry into the Sept. 11 attacks and has been classified since the report’s completion, despite repeated calls for its release. The document, which the administration finally delivered to Congress earlier Friday [7/15/16].

    https:// www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/congress-releases-28-pages-saudis-9-11/index.html

     

    The Corbett Report exposed it as a rabbit hole, or a trap, laid by the intel community. It's how they operate. To keep everyone focused on the wrong questions.

    https: //www.corbettreport.com/interview-1161-pft-live-debunking-the-28-pages/

     

    ........

    What are the right questions? Why do they want to thin the herd? Why now? How do we survive, and make govt work for us, not against us? Whats coming next? Hyperinflation? Starvation? Controlled demolition of the US economy? Strangle the supply chains?

     

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 1:14pm

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    Primary Care_MD said:

    hypothetical discussion:

    Bill Gates: "Can we do smallpox now? Can we? Please? Pretty please?"

    Fauci: "You ruined it, going on MSM with your smallpox this, smallpox that. If we release it now, it'd be too obvious."

    Kissinger: "I vote for B.1.1.529. And mass starvation is always good."

    Netanyahu: "I agree with nerd boy. We need something more deadly. Do we have a 9.1.1 variant?"

    Cheney: "Variants don't matter. We proved that under Reagan. All the Constitutional republics are in their final throes."

     

    (pardon my gallows humor, this is all so sick, and so absurd. I hope more people wake up soon, so we can end this worldwide Milgram experiment.)

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 1:25pm

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    Bruno said:

    When ever the protest start they roll out a another variant.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 1:34pm

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    Not Open Minded?

    I'm seeing most commenters asking questions. You can't get more open-minded than that.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 1:35pm

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    The Aventures of Buckaroo Banzai

    My husband is also a redneck engineer.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 2:38pm

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    Really Good Article on the New Variant and the Vaccines Crashing and Burning

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244342

    Only infection has ever conferred critical and fatal outcome protection with coronaviruses through history.  There are no exceptions.  Not only have all previous attempts ended in failure several have resulted in vaccine-enhanced disease ripping through the vaccinated test subjects on re-challenge with several of those trials ending in the death of all or nearly all test subjects -- which were fortunately animals and not humans.  This time around we have performed a mass experiment with zero evidence over a period of years to demonstrate that what has happened 100% of the time in the past will not happen again.

    It appears we're losing that bet -- a loss that, on the basis of history, we had every reason to believe would happen and yet instead of every single firm manufacturing this crap being an instant zero several are being rewarded.  What the hell sort of rampant, outrageous stupidity is that?

    While the data is not yet in there is reason to believe, given the mutations described in this newest "variant", that the vaccinated may be ****ed as the mutations may confer full evasion and yet the binding antibodies you get from being jabbed are still there.  If that pans out here comes the exact same thing that has repeatedlyhappened with coronavirus vaccine attempts except this time we were dumb enough to mass-vaccinate humans rather than a handful of cats.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:05pm

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    Dr Negato said:

    will not happen, that would be "racist"

    https://nypost.com/2021/11/26/who-skips-two-letters-in-alphabet-in-naming-omicron-variant/

    Another proof how WHO is CCP controled

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:06pm

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    cestin said:

    Was just going to post this, when previous was posted.  I’ll post anyway, since I explain the details.

    One reason Omicron might be real and intentionally designed is to give vaccinated ADE who get it. The perfect virus for that. Antibody dependent enhancement. Same as with the Spanish Flu for people exposed previously to Russian Flu.

    The ADE concept has s simple. A person with antibodies to a virus that don’t bind to the virus ‘ binding attachment site doesn’t stop the virus from infecting them. If they have antibodies that bind to the virus in other places than the neutralizing site, the white blood cells attach to those antibodies and eat the virus, which infects them. The infected white blood cells release cytokines to recruit help.  The cytokines make the blood vessels leaky to make it easy for more help. In the lungs that causes fluid.  In organs it causes an over reactive immune response that racks havoc on the body and the person dies from the overaction. Young adults in the war in 1918 who had been exposed to the Russian Flu, made a non neutralizing response to the Spanish Flu and were dead in a few days. It would be the perfect way of turning the vaccine into part one of a two step process. Much slicker than to have the vaccine killing too many people while they’re trying to get maximal numbers jabbed.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:08pm

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    Also an important read...

    Dr Scott Atlas's book "A Plague Upon Our House...". An excellent tome about his experience with advising the White House on the virus response and his incredulity about incompetence and pollicization of the whole deal.  Also a good video on Epoch TV:

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/dr-scott-atlas-on-vaccine-mandates-for-children-natural-immunity-and-floridas-covid-19-surge_4013490.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:16pm

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    captain1202 said:

    Both my primary physician and my cardiologist have been pushing me to get the jab.  When I question them about the stats from Israel and the UK they say you can't believe them, that we should listen to the CDC and other U.S. officials.  Unfortunately, I think it is becoming clear that our system is completely dysfunctional in this regard.  I've tried to be a "critical thinker" throughout this whole debacle and I have a tendency to listen to  authoritative persons who have nothing more to gain than trying to impart serious information when it's obvious we're not getting what we need from our government and our health system.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:18pm

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    Has the virus gone back to the lab?

    There are so many mutations in omicron that it makes me wonder if if they are not natural. Is it just time for another lab-tweaked version to continue amping up fear?

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:32pm

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    Replying to Has the virus gone back to the lab? (#37)

    It is hard to believe that - just as the population was pushing back against tyranny - that the virus decided to mutate 20 or more times.

    Either the new strain is engineered or the new strain does not exist at all.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:44pm

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    “It’s Coming” – New York Gov. Hochul Declares State of Emergency Due to Omicron Variant

    It is not good to be a resident of New York State these days.   Gov. Hochul is taking right over where Cuomo left off.  -: (

    From Gateway Pundit:

    New York Governor Kathy Hochul (D) declared a state of emergency due to the new “Omicron” Covid variant spreading in Africa.

    The declaration goes into effect on December 3 and gives the Health Department the power to limit “non-essential” procedures (will likely be enforced through the lens of equity) at hospitals.

    “We continue to see warning signs of spikes this upcoming winter, and while the new Omicron variant has yet to be detected in New York State, it’s coming,” Hochul said.

    “It’s Coming” – New York Gov. Hochul Declares State of Emergency Due to Omicron Variant

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 3:53pm

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    cases in Botswana

    The 4 cases in Botswana were detected in 4 fully-vaccinated individuals.

    https://twitter.com/BWGovernment/status/1463874240130785280/photo/1

    What does that say about the "efficacy" of  these vaccines?

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 4:01pm

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    Pointless Question

    The question of if the virus exists or not is functionally pointless, the precautionary principle says that we have to assume it does exist, and then take those precautions against it that make sense, so I have no particular problem wearing a mask, and taking vitamin d, b, c, and some zinc, because they all make sense. If I was over 60 then I would take the vaccine because there seems to be a mathematical advantage to taking it, and below 60 with no co-morbidities, there seems to be a mathematical advantage to not taking it.

    I have no real way of determining if it is a hoax; if it is real and the vaccine is a hoax; or if it is real and the vaccine is real. So I apply the precautionary principle and take reasonable common-sense actions.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 4:16pm

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    Such Flagrant Fearmongering in NY

    From Alex Berenson's substack today
    New York declares a health-care state of emergency over a Covid variant that doesn’t exist in the state
    Now this is a lie so brazen even Andrew Cuomo might hesitate to tell it.

    New York’s new and unimproved governor, Kathy Hochul, last seen telling you to Get Vaxxed For Jesus (I kid you not), has now declared a “state of emergency” that will allow Health Department bureaucrats to block “non-urgent” medical procedures at hospitals. Because who needs a colonoscopy, anyway?

    Hochul says the Xi - I mean Omicron, definitely not Xi! - variant is behind the emergency.

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    The terrifying variant is:

    1.  not currently found in the state of New York

    2.  only has 4 known cases

    3.  These 4 cases were described as "mild"

    4.  But a universal news blitz is in play to whip up global fear.

    [Did it work on you??  Please report in!]

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    The Long Island branch Emergency Department of Sinai Hospital System has been closed due to lack of nursing staff as of 48 hours ago.  Many nurses were fired over vaccine refusal and now staffing is short.

    But no, that is not the reason for limiting hospital access. \sarc

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 4:22pm

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    Andy in the Sun said:

    Netanyahu: "I agree with nerd boy. We need something more deadly. Do we have a 9.1.1 variant?

    Yeah Doc 😀  ... 9.1.1 variants have a proven devastating effect on aircraft pilots and twin towers.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 4:27pm

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    One thing has become clearly evident

    There is so much unusual focus on the "spike protein."  It seems to be what was tinkered with in the lab to make it more readily attach to receptors and gain entry to cells.  It seems to be what has mutated in this "horrific spike profile"   And yet, the when we vaccinate , we actually create these spike proteins.

    I understand that this can be a target in the disease for  vaccine, but it seems clear that spike protein , in itself, seems to be a very pathogenic part of the disease.   They generally do not give vaccinations with the pathogenic part of the virus as the active part.

    I think I am going to get sick if I hear more about the dreaded spike protein that has existed for millions of years , that somehow has just become some wicked mutant via people with aids although aids has been around for 4 decades or a bit more.

    Someone will have to verify and show me this method of more lethal dangerous mutations occurring because of people with weak immune systems.   If I recall correctly, selective pressure is due to actually resistance to the disease, not non resistance as we would expect in HIV.

    On a side note:  what is with the banner with CUN*S sign behind the governor during declaration of state of emergency.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 4:30pm

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    The "Why"

    Absolutely. People are so busy getting worked up and arguing over the misdirection coming from "both" "sides", that it doesn't cross their minds to begin to think about what is really going on. My prediction is that those on the very top of the money & power spectrum see the inevitable collapse of the worldwide economy that is based on ever increasing debt and interest. Unless they have a tight grip on all the people, they will not be able to retain that power when it all comes crashing down. Controlled demolition following a controlled population. Either way, it's not going to be good for the vast majority of people.

    The economist Michael Hudson has some good material on how civilizations that don't periodically cancel public debt, inevitably fail.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 5:24pm

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    RFK Fauci book

    I second the motion to get the new RFK book on Fauci. I’m about 30% through it right now and I highly recommend it. It’s pretty devastating in its thorough look at Fauci, Big Pharma and others. The kindle book is only $2.99; he’s obviously mostly intent on getting this info into as many hands as possible.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 6:56pm

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    Stillbirths Vancouver

    Here is a doctor's discussion of increased stillbirth rates among vaccinated mothers in parts of British Columbia:

    [FULL INTERVIEW] Stillbirths Exploding Across Canada in Fully Vaccinated Mothers – Dr. Daniel Nagase

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 7:12pm

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    Anagram for Omicron

    The real name: Moronic

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 7:20pm

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    RFK Jr speech in Milan Italy

    Robert F Kennedy Jr Full Speech | Milan, Italy November 13th 2021

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 7:47pm

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    Replying to RFK Jr speech in Milan Italy (#49)

    This is epic. What a speech. Here is the entire transcript in full:

    No government in the history of mankind has ever relinquished power voluntarily. The power that they have taken away from us over the past 20 months they will never give back. They have taken away our freedom of speech, they have closed the churches, they have taken away jury trials against companies, no matter how negligent they, no matter how reckless they are, no matter how grievous your injury, you cannot sue that company.

    They have taken away our property rights in the United States. They closed a million businesses for a year with no just compensation and no due process. They have taken away our right to be free of warrantless searches and seizures and surveillance by the government. In the United States all of those rights are enumerated in our Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution. And among the most important of those rights, after the right to free expression, which is gone, is the right to be able to participate in rule-making.

    So, when the government wants to pass a law, it has to publish the law, propose the law, it has to explain the scientific basis for that law, it has to do a cost-benefit analysis of that law and explain it to the public, and then we have comments, that all the public can participate in, and then we have a hearing where people oppose the law, like myself, and bring in our own scientists and experts and scientific studies and it’s all transparent. All of those safeguards have been obliterated. Today, the law is what one man says it is, the top doctor in the United States, Anthony Fauci.

    In one month, in March of 2020, Tony Fauci told the world masks don’t work, they’re scientifically worthless, two months later he ordered every American to put on a mask. He didn’t give us any scientific studies that made him change his mind, he simply told us, that’s the new law, do what you’re told.

    All of these rights that the Founders of our country died for, sacrificed their properties, their livelihoods, to give us the Bill of Rights, and all of these rights over 20 months have been obliterated, taken from the American people — but not just the American people. This is a global coup d’état against liberal democracies across the planet.

    And all of these rights that were taken away from us, these governments said it was only temporary. They said it would only be two weeks. In truth, you can all see what is happening: They will never give them back unless we make them.

    And the Green Pass is their coup d’état. The Green Pass is how they consolidate their power over your lives. The Green Pass is not a public health measure. It is a tool for totalitarian control of your transportation, your bank account, your movement, every aspect of your life.

    And this is not a new idea. This is the same idea they used in Germany in 1937. They issued a pass for people they wanted to control. And when the South African apartheid government wanted to control the black population of South Africa, what was the most important thing they did? They issued a green pass.

    I want you to ask all of people and journalists and press who are here today. If the Green Pass is about public health, why is it not issued by the health ministry? It’s being issued by the financial ministry. Do they think that we are stupid?

    Because this is a way to control your money, Once you have that Green Pass and they have the digital currency, if somebody tells you, Do not leave Milan, and you go on a trip to Bologna, your money won’t work in Bologna. If the government tells you not to buy pizza, they can make it so that your money won’t buy pizza at a pizza store. They can control every aspect of your life.

    They tell you that we need a Green Pass to make sure everybody gets vaccinated. But they admit it: the vaccine does not prevent transmission, the vaccine does not prevent you from getting the disease, the vaccine doesn’t stop the pandemic. So why do we need to get vaccinated if the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission?

    I’m gonna tell you for two minutes — I’m going to talk about the vaccines. People say I’m against vaccines. I’m not against vaccines. I’m only against bad vaccines.

    I’m not going to tell you what Robert Kennedy thinks. I’m going to tell you what Pfizer told the United States FDA.

    Pfizer is the company that has an approved vaccine in the United States. And Pfizer was supposed to have a three-year-study, but they cut it to 6 months. And then they gave vaccinations to all of the controls. Why did they do that? Why did they end the study in 6 months? Because they learned that the antibodies disappear in 6 months and the vaccine no longer provides protection. So they had to end it in 6 months. They could not do what they planned (3 years). They took all of their records for that 6 months and they gave them to FDA. The most important table is the table that tells you All Cause Mortality. How many people died in the vaccine group, how many died in the placebo group during that 6-month period. That table is called “s4.” You can all look it up.

    Here’s what the numbers say. There were 22,000 in the vaccine group. Over 6 months, one died from COVID. In the placebo group, the control group, there were 22,000 people, two died from COVID in 6 months. That allowed Pfizer to tell the American public that the vaccine is 100% effective because two is 100% of one.

    Most Americans and most Italians when they hear that the vaccine is “100% effective”, what they think is that if they take the vaccine, I have 100% of not dying from COVID. That’s not what it means. What it means is they have give 22,000 vaccines to protect one person from dying of COVID. That means they better make sure that the vaccine itself does not kill one person even, because if it kills one person then you cancel out the entire benefit.

    Here’s the important thing. In the vaccine group, 20 people died over 6 months from all causes — 20 people of the 22,000. In the control group, only 14 people died of 22,000. That means that if you take the vaccine you are 48% more likely to die over the next 6 months than if you don’t.

    These are Pfizer’s numbers, not mine. Here’s how the people died. In the control group, one person died of a heart attack over the 6 months. In the vaccine group, 5 people died of heart attacks over the 6 months. That means if you get the vaccine, you have a 500% risk of a fatal heart attack within 6 months. It also means that for every one person who is saved from dying of COVID, the vaccine is killing 4 people from heart attacks.

    This is not a good public health policy. Public health is supposed to save lives. But this is about control and controlling our society and controlling our children. And the only reason that people don’t understand what I just said and that people still support the vaccine is one reason: the manipulation of fear.

    This is simple mathematics. Anybody can look it up. If you look it up you will be more scared of that vaccine than you are of COVID. But the government and the pharmaceutical companies have a method for turning off people’s brains so that they can no longer do simple mathematics. That device is fear. Fear stops us from exercising critical thinking. It allows us to believe that if we just do what we’re told then that that is the only way to save our lives. It’s called the Stockholm Syndrome. And the captors, they lock down a whole country for a year, and people become grateful to their captors and think the only way we can leave here alive is if we have absolute obedience.

    I’m going to make one more point and that’s this. How many people here have heard of Event 201?

    If you haven’t heard of it, you should go look at it on Youtube. Event 201 was a simulation of a corona virus pandemic that occurred in New York City in October 2019. We now know that COVID was circulating in Wuhan on September 12, 2019, so a month later, there is a simulated corona virus pandemic in New York.

    The people who came to that were the big social media companies, the media companies, Johnson & Johnson, the biggest vaccine company, and it was hosted by three people: 1) Bill Gates, 2) George Fu Gao who’s the head of the Chinese CDC, and 3) Avril Haines, the deputy director of the CIA.

    Avril Haines is today the top number one spy in the United States, She is the head of Joe Biden’s National Security Agency, so she went from Event 201 to becoming the top spy in our country.

    Who knew that the CIA is a public health agency? It came as a surprise to me.

    Because the CIA does not do public health. The CIA does coup d’états. Between 1947 and the year 2000, the CIA was engaged in 73 coup d’états, most of them against democracies, one-third of the countries in the world. If you look at Event 201, there was no discussion of public health. Nobody was talking about how do we get Vitamin D to all the people? How do we get people to lose weight? How do we make sure they eat good food? How do we repurpose medicines to treat people? How do we quarantine the sick? How do we preserve Constitutional rights? Not a word was said about public health.

    Instead, what they were talking about is how do we use the pandemic as a pretext to clamp down totalitarian controls and to deconstruct democracy. They spent one-quarter of the day talking about how to make sure nobody’s allowed to spread the rumor that the coronavirus pandemic is laboratory- generated.

    This is October 2019! And they talk about how to lock down the population, how to force them to take experimental vaccines, how to make sure that black people don’t start resisting. Because in our country, blacks are very suspicious of the medical establishment, and they were deeply concerned about that resistance.

    When I researched my book, what I learned was that this event, Event 201, was not a one-time occurrence. We found 20 separate pandemic simulations beginning in 2000. One thing they had in common — most of them Bill Gates was involved in, Tony Fauci was involved in — but every one of them the CIA was involved in. The CIA wrote the script, high-level CIA officials participated in every one of those pandemic simulations.

    And they involved hundreds of thousands of people. They were conducted secretly. They used frontline workers, they were training police, and hospital systems and utilities in Europe, in Italy, in Germany, in Canada, in Australia, all at the same time, to do a response to a pandemic, but it was not a public health response. It was a response to use the pandemic for something else.

    So they practiced again and again and again: How to use the pandemic as a pretext for imposing totalitarian controls and for obliterating liberal democracy across the planet.

    One of the experiments that they used, they found, is called the Milgram experiment — it was a CIA experiment in 1967 — and what the CIA found is that if a powerful medical official orders people to do something wrong, something that violates their conscience, that violates their basic values, 67% of people will obey authority over their values. And 67% of the people will be hypnotized by fear into obeying a position of authority, a figure of authority. But 33% of the people will not obey. And you are the 33%.

    And our job is to go out from here today and reach out to our brothers and sisters, the people who are still hypnotized, and tell them that we are going to fight for their freedom until they are able to fight for it themselves. We need to reach out when we leave here today to all of our brothers and sisters, the 67% who are still hypnotized, and we have to tell them that you need to love your freedom more than you are scared of a germ.

    This year we saw the destruction of the American Constitution. That Constitution was written by a group of people who understood that there are worse things than dying. And they put their lives on the front line, their property, their careers, their livelihoods, to fight for freedom, and to fight for those rights that we have lost in the previous 20 months.

    And now it’s our job now, it is the job of everybody in this crowd, to go out and fight back, to resist, resist, resist, resist, and to reclaim our government, to reclaim our lives, to reclaim our liberty, for our children, for our country, and for all future generations.

    And I can tell you this. I will stand side by side with you, and if I have to die for this, I’m going to die with my boots on.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 7:50pm

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    Coded messages

    Anyone else getting the feeling the name is some kind of message?  This image is the third time in the last 24hrs I've gotten that feeling...

    Toy robot named Omnicon

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 7:57pm

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    Replying to Replying to RFK Jr speech in Milan Italy (#49) (#50)

    Kennedy is saying this. The pandemic is being used to finish off what was started with 911.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 7:59pm

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    Talk about protests.........

    Bruno, and everyone else, take a look at the protests going on in Australia.  Massive!  Some great views from above.

    A Million Aussies March For Freedom

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:18pm

    Hladini

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    Thanks for the link

    Steve, thanks for the link, I'll pass it along.   What a sad, sad time this is.  So many still borns!  All those grieving mamas; I hope they connect the dots.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 8:34pm

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    Gregory said:

    I presume you think Our Masters actually want more people to take their vaccine?

    yes. they absolutely want the people to take their vaccine, as much as possible.

    when only 5% of the vaccine lots contain 100% of the poison, that creates a lot of people who will stand up and say that the vaccines are safe (but will 5% of the booster lots be 'safe'?). when the government repeatedly locks down the community and then gives it hope, that creates a population that will obey the government to escape the torment. when you've 'educated' the masses for the last 50 years to believe that viruses are real and dangerous, and vaccines are the answer, people will believe you as soon as you say the magic word 'vaccine'. I see this every day.

    Do you have any idea how hard it would be to have a "psychological" virus?

    loneliness, depression, long term pain from the vaccine, other conditions from the lockdowns and mandates are affecting many people and are leading many to suicide, but I've never claimed that the disease might be psychosomatic. mass psychosis to get people to act in fear? yes. mass psychosis to make people think they're sick? no.

    We have a disease and we have an mRNA "vaccine" (gene therapy), which only code for one protein (of, I think I read, five or more)of the  putative virus: the spike.  These two things produce substantially the SAME adverse effects:  notably massive clotting, inflamation, heart attack, etc.    Indeed, here is a list of common vaccine side effects from yandex:

    the virus exists in the vaccines but also possibly in the flu shots just after Nov 2019. this is something that people tend to miss; they're following the official virus timeline. David Martin's records show that the virus was assembled many years ago. so it's absolutely possible that the virus was spread via the flu (and other vaccine) shots even before the covid vaccines were officially released. Fauci and Gates both used vaccines extensively to spread viruses. they have been practising for this pandemic for a long time.

    the adverse affects are the same by design. first you tell the public about the virus and describe its effects. then you inject people with the same virus (or the mRNA to build the virus). when people develop the same symptoms, they are told that they have breakthrough cases and need more vaccines, and they believe you!!! the scheme is genius.

    I believe the virus doesn't survive outside of the body. the only way to get it is via the vaccines; i.e., your body builds the virus. the S spike does all the damage. you don't need the rest of the virus.

    watch. the higher the vaccination rate in any country/region, the higher the case rate. this will become more and more obvious over time *if* the officials don't hide/change the numbers (they probably will).

    so, scientists can't produce a physical sample of the virus because it doesn't exist, but the S spike does exist, only in vaccinated (covid or other vaccine) people (shedding is still being considered).

    as for China... I've considered the Sinovax situation and don't believe it's possible to create billions of deactivated virus vaccines. deactivated viruses have to be grown in cell lines. this takes time, not only to grow the virus but also the cell line. and the cell lines will *never* be pure. they'll always contain hundreds if not thousands of other viruses that would otherwise never have affected a human body. the CDC was forced to admit this many years ago.

    nowhere in the world has anyone been legally permitted to investigate the components of any vaccine. people should not assume that they know what's in the vaccines, especially based on official announcements.

    and almost none of today's scientists can be trusted to tell the truth. they've all been compromised by Fauci and his money.

    you *have to* imagine possibilities that don't fit with the offical narrative because the official narrative will only mislead you.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 9:02pm

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    DrBeen + Dr Campbell -- videos

    Both Dr Been and Dr Campbell have reviewed the current state of knowledge of the omicron variant. Dr Been is far less worried than Dr Campbell.

    Dr Been says “Things are not as bad as some folks are making it appear.” Says don't just look at the chart showing the percentage change -- you must also look at the chart of daily confirmed cases. The percentage change chart makes it look like this variant is spiking up as high as previous spikes. But the daily confirmed cases chart shows that actual case numbers are still at the very bottom of the trough.

    His key takeaway:

    “The WHO says current PCR tests still detect this variant. This is very important. If this variant had escaped, the tests would not find it. Even though one test cannot detect one of the three gene signals, all of the tests do detect it.

    That means these….mutations are not big enough to fail the tests. And if they are not big enough to fail the tests, they are not going to be big enough to fail the efficacy of a previously infected person’s protection, or a vaccinated person’s protection, or monoclonal antibodies protection, or other drugs protection. So this is not a SARS Cov-3. …it could be replacing delta but I don’t think it will be starting a new pandemic.” He goes on to say that all these changes can make the virus unstable and not so lethal. (link below).

    Dr Campbell says:

    • If it is this contagious, it will spread around the world.
    • This is quite a big thing.
    • Africa 24% vaccination rate.
    • We don’t know what will happen in highly vaccinated countries
    • If it does not make people very sick, this high contagion rate could be good, letting it infect people and create herd immunity.
    • Immunologist says breakthrough infections have been found after all 3 vaccine types
    • Spike protein is a very different shape now
    • Lots of contagion in young people
    • WHO advises against travel restrictions – Dr C strongly disagrees
    • this variant “clearly does” evade the antibodies from the vaccines and we need time to prepare.
    • There will be massively more breakthrough infections.
    • If you have had the natural infection you will probably have protection against this variant. (link below)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLsMqC7WxTc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxlYyZ08cEg

     

     

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 9:03pm

    CatastrophicNewEngland

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    weekend protesters

    Thanks for that article. It mentioned a couple times how people were out "every weekend" to protest. Governments already know that in general, most of the population is never happy with them. Going out en mass on the weekend is a good show at how angry people are, but I don't see it being an effective way at getting those "in charge" to change anything. Hitting them financially I believe would be the more effective way to protest. Stop going to work, stop paying all taxes & bills. If enough people did that, and it wouldn't take that high of a percentage, they would have to relent or everything would crash, including their hold on power.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 9:53pm

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    all-cause mortality

    Captain-

    My suggestion: ask your primary care guy to show you the all cause mortality benefit from the clinical trials.  If he can't show you the all cause mortality benefit, then ask him to please STFU and not mention the shot ever again, because if he does, he'd be violating his oath to "first do no harm."

    Alternatively - ask him if he's signing up for full financial liability on any "new health events" you might suffer as a result of taking the shot at his urging.  If not him - his organization?  The manufacturer?   Anyone?

    Or is the burden of dealing with possible negative outcomes entirely on you?

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 10:14pm

    davefairtex

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    poor les - again!

    Hey Les.  Ask your "healthcare professional" family members to tell us all about the all-cause mortality benefit conferred by the vaccine.

    Oh wait.  It doesn't have one.

    Sorry.  We're a science-and-data place.  Not an "appeal to my family members who are healthcare professionals" (which we call an "appeal to authority" fallacy).

    Man.  Is this really all you can bring?  "My brother says so!"  Reminds me of, "My dad is better than your dad."

    Here.  I'll give you a counter-anecdote.  In Germany, at a small rural hospital, the hospitalized cases (in the middle of the latest monster COVID19 assault) are a mix of vaccinated and unvaccinated.  All old and/or overweight.  My source is a healthcare professional whom I know well that takes care of COVID patients.  See?  I can do appeals to authority too.

    Ultimately though I prefer the "all cause mortality benefit."  I mean, why would I want a vaccine that will have a small chance of protecting me from a COVID death (for maybe six months) and have a much larger chance of killing me due to some other effect.  Like a stroke or a heart attack.

    Here.  Data.  Page #12.  "Deaths".

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.supplementary-material

    More people died in the vaccine group than in the placebo group.

    I'll take placebo, thanks.  Because: clinical trial science.  It beats my-brother-said-so science any day of the week.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 12:07am

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    UK Column News Nov 26 on the New Variant

    https://odysee.com/@DotConnectorReports:e/UK-Column-News--26th-November-2021:c

    This is my favorite new news station - gives me a much better feel for how the WW4 war crimes are going in Europe, UK, Australia, etc.   In this episode from yesterday, they are focussed on the latest drama of the latest variant and how we all need more jabs!

     

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 12:43am

    Thetallestmanonearth

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    Bitcoin

    I am coming to see that the game is about control and power. Power and control come from money and interest in productive assets. The only asset in the world that is not currently controlled and manipulated by the masters of the system is Bitcoin. (Gold gets monkey hammered like wack a mole every time I think it’s going to take off.) If we en mass move all of our assets over to Bitcoin, not only will it create a wealth effect (the earlier you get in the greater this effect), but it will also force the elite to follow us into the asset class. There are only about 3 million Bitcoin left to be mined ever (21m total). If they join us in piling in, Bitcoin could become a reserve asset for the world and the late to the game elite will now be a sub-elite to the early adopters. If they refuse to follow us in but we get enough plebs to migrate to the network, we can create parallel economies and starve the systems from which the elite derive power. See for example remittances to El Salvador. Western union just took a several hundred million dollar hit to their value after national adoption of Bitcoin.

    https://youtu.be/3Rnqst5qCgA

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 12:57am

    Gregory

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    bitcoin and hard assets

    Catherine Fitts made an interesting point in her latest interview.

    TPTB are buying up assets, incl gold and land. while they're transferring their massive fiat money to hard assets, it would be easy for the prices of those assets to escalate significantly... except that many non-elite people are not buying gold or land because they're buying an imaginary asset; bitcoin and ethereum.

    something to keep in mind.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 1:32am

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    NOT Babylon Bee: Vaccination Required For Assisted Suicide

    THIS is why Babylon Bee is having such a difficult time executing satire.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/german-euthanasia-clinics-refusing-unvaccinated-customers

    Irony has been declared many times in this pandemic but now, from Covid-riddled Germany comes the final proof: you can't kill yourself now unless you've been vaccinated. As European countries battle to limit the spread of the virus, Verein Sterbehilfe – the German Euthanasia Association – has issued a new directive, declaring it will now only help those who have been vaccinated or recovered from the disease. In a statement, the association said:

    “Euthanasia and the preparatory examination of the voluntary responsibility of our members willing to die require human closeness. Human closeness, however, is a prerequisite and breeding ground for coronavirus transmission. As of today, the 2G rule applies in our association, supplemented by situation-related measures, such as quick tests before encounters in closed rooms.
    2G = "vaccinated or recovered."
    Well at least Germany understands that covid-recovered is "as good as" vaccination.  So that's a plus.  You gotta get your two shots - or get COVID & recover - before they'll help you kill yourself.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 1:40am

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    Omicron Pfizer booster coming in 100 days!

    Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer has said that if it is discovered that the new Omicron variant is resistant to its current Covid-19 vaccine than it can have an updated version manufactured and distributed within 100 days.

    https://www.news.com.au/national/pfizer-signals-it-can-have-omicron-vaccine-ready-in-100-days/news-story/51a3f564a3c47859e4719fff341fd5eb

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 7:06am

    Hladini

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    They are out of their minds

    These people are absolutely mad.  Thanks for sharing the link, Dave.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 7:32am

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    Hladini

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    Fear Sells

    Once again, thank you Chris for this thoughtful and informative article.

    I think it's safe to say the networks sell fear.  Fear is a powerful.  Fear can sell drugs, policies, ideologies and especially scapegoating.  Fear is a type of perverted intoxication.

    Anecdote here.  Just had our annual Thanksgiving Festival yesterday.  About 80 people attended - including two small bands - there were maybe 3 or 4 people wearing masks and yes 90% of the event was outside  (a small crew was in the house for a while).

    I called a dear friend to invite her and her husband (they've come every year for more than a decade except for 2020 and 2021).  Spoke to her husband and this is how our conversation went:

    So, you guys don't wear masks, right?  Right, but everything is outside, there's no real danger of transmission outside.

    And you guys have not been vaccinated, right?  Right.  But you're vaccinated, don't you feel protected?

    Yes, but we can still get it.  Then I ask: So why get vaccinated?

    Response:  That's why we're not coming, we're not having this conversation.

    These people are petrified.  And I know for a fact,  this couple never turns off the bube tube.

    Fear does not allow for rational discussions.

     

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 7:45am

    Hladini

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    The Death Knell

    You're welcome Catastrophic.  It's nice to know sooooo many people are rising up against these horrid policies and that we are not alone.

    As for what can we do to thwart this tsunami of piss poor public policies coming down the pike?

    I speculate the modern cell phone is the mechanism that will be used to coerce more and more people into conforming to multinational policies - i.e. the Great Rest.

    I think if most people ditched their cell phones, it would spell the death knell for the great reset.

    Keep a flip phone in your car for travel safety - at least for now while we are still free to travel in our cars.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 8:14am

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    Covering Up for Vaccine Failure

    It seems to me that Delta was used to explain the "breakthrough" cases for the double jabbed and that perhaps Omicron will be used to explain why the boosters won't be effective for long.....

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 10:06am

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    Canuck21

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    Omicron - symptoms are ‘unusual but mild’

    South African doctor who raised alarm about omicron variant says symptoms are ‘unusual but mild’
    The first South African doctor to alert the authorities about patients with the omicron variant has told The Telegraph that the symptoms of the new variant are unusual but mild.

    Dr Angelique Coetzee said she was first alerted to the possibility of a new variant when patients in her busy private practice in the capital Pretoria started to come in earlier this month with Covid-19 symptoms that did not make immediate sense.

    They included young people of different backgrounds and ethnicities with intense fatigue and a six-year-old child with a very high pulse rate, she said. None suffered from a loss of taste or smell.

    “Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before,” said Dr Coetzee, a GP for 33 years who chairs the South African Medical Association alongside running her practice. ...

    ...

    Dr Coetzee, who was briefing other African medical associations on Saturday, made clear her patients were all healthy and she was worried the new variant could still hit older people – with co-morbidities such as diabetes or heart disease – much harder.

    ...

    South African demographics are very different from those in the UK. Only about six per cent of the population are over the age of 65. This means that older individuals who are more vulnerable to the virus may take some time to present.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/south-african-doctor-raised-alarm-omicron-variant-says-symptoms/

     

    EDITED: here is the doctor talking on the BBC

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-59450988

     

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 10:47am

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    flip phone

    this is a dumb question, but where do I even get a flip phone now?  I actually looked at cases online last night that purport to block cellphone transmission ie tracking. Although once you use it -....

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 11:26am

    CatastrophicNewEngland

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    "dumb" phones are extinct

    I'm currently dealing with the AT&T imminent shutdown of their 3g network, which will make all dumb phones (like my current 7 year old flip phone) no longer able to function. The only flip phones you can get on their network that I could find run on Kai OS, and you need to accept a user agreement that allows their Hong Kong based tech company to use your data and personal information. I'm certain android and apple phone OSes make you sign a similar agreement. They have GPS, and google software pre-installed. The only upside security wise that I can see is that the battery is removable. Landline phones still exist. I miss the 90s anyway...

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 12:48pm

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    Mild Symptoms of Omicron?

    Young people presenting with intense fatigue and a 6 year old with fast heart rate.

    Intense fatigue is a very subjective term - but does not sound like mild.    However, I am not sure what is meant by fast heart rate - I mean this is a quantitative thing. ( 140, 160?  )  I mean what are we talking here.   Children can usually handle higher heart rates than older people.   But for all people when with illness like a cold or flu - elevated heart rate is normal - I, myself, can be around 110-115 with a good fever.

    Why can't we get more info from these doctors.  Also, it has been reported no one has died.  So it doesn't sound like they need to do too much - but again, are the recovered?

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 1:00pm

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    RE assisted suicide requiring double vaccination

    This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of.  On the flip side, you should not worry about taking the vaccine, if you are intending on dying.   In fact you could probably save yourself the step going to the euthanasia clinic.  I would think 3- 4 Covid shots within 30 days , would easily do you in.    no clinic or assistance needed.

    I can see no medical reason for such a rule.   However , I can give you at least 10 likely financial reasons for such a rule.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 1:01pm

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    Washington member group

    Unrelated comment for Wa members,

    I made a Signal group chat for Washington members, if you're in Washington and would like to join. PM for info.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 3:11pm

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    Donn Edwards said:

    Molnupiravir is not available in Southern Africa, so if the mutation occurred here it wasn't because of the drug.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 3:13pm

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    Suspected Omicron cases are mild

    Dr Coetzee said it was unfortunate that Omicron had been hyped as "this extremely dangerous virus variant" with multiple mutations while its virulency was still unknown.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 4:25pm

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    Omicron cases mild?

    Exactly. It would be absolutely wonderful I’d think if Omicron turned out to be both highly transmissible and pretty mild. It could outcompete Delta, infect lots of people while conferring natural immunity and not get many too sick. So if this is the case we’d need to open the borders, encourage travel and hold Omicron parties like the Chicken Pox parties I’ve heard about in the past!

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 6:45pm

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    Nice job here

    I'm still sifting through information on this topic, but I wanted to thank you for laying all this out so cleanly in text form (which, e.g., makes it significantly easier to follow and cross-check sources and threads, at least for me).  There are definitely a lot of conflicting thoughts out there, and solid collections of information are always welcome.

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 11:39pm

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    Rae S

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    YIkes

    I can’t help but wonder if they’re intentionally trying to hold it off because they know it is more mild (or fear it) and that’s the best position for pushing all of these shots right now. I almost find myself hoping that the variant gets into the US anyway and starts spreading because wouldn’t be the most messed up thing ever if they actually tried to keep the milder version at bay? Perhaps it’s just wishful thinking but I guess time will tell. I absolutely HATE the idea that this is a manufactured variant and prefer to think of it as nature winning. I’m definitely not saying I know anything, just hoping.

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  • Mon, Nov 29, 2021 - 3:02pm

    richcabot

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    It's the counselors

    The rule is supposedly because you have to get counseling before you are legally allowed to kill yourself.  If you are unvaccinated you will be putting those counselors at elevated risk.  We know that's not true but the policy isn't as ludicrous as it sounds.

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  • Mon, Nov 29, 2021 - 3:39pm

    Minigoldendoodle

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    Kai OS Phone is Garbage

    I bought the Kai OS flip phone a few months ago when my network informed me that my old flip phone wouldn’t be compatible with their 5G network. The phone is very buggy and comes loaded with Google products so I can’t endorse it for much (aside from the removable battery, as you mentioned).

    There is a build your own cell phone kit on Amazon that could be a decent option for creating your own dumb phone: https://www.amazon.com/CircuitMess-Ringo-Mobile-Yourself-Project/dp/B07VXRWVW5/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=34WTG7F91BY2O&keywords=build+your+own+cell+phone&qid=1638218135&qsid=146-8510321-0044460&sprefix=build+your+own+ce%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-3&sres=B07VXRWVW5%2CB076KSQFZS%2CB0871G4166%2CB01IPNGZ52%2CB01LYVV9QU%2CB071JF3Z29%2CB098TB2J8W%2CB07QCQNKG7%2CB08P2H8341%2CB08RL7VLKY%2CB016856FDG%2CB06XRKD15B%2CB0160JB7IS%2CB0834991B9

    I haven’t researched the OS yet but I’ll probably try building it over the Winter so I can retire the Kai OS phone.

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  • Mon, Nov 29, 2021 - 5:26pm

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    helmadi

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    Biden administration won't take action against unvaccinated federal workers until next year

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-administration-delay-enforcement-federal-worker-vaccine-mandate-until-next-n1284963

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  • Mon, Nov 29, 2021 - 9:39pm

    Stph

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    Replying to NOT Babylon Bee: Vaccination Required For Assisted Suicide (#63) Cancel reply

    "You gotta get your two shots - or get COVID & recover - before they'll help you kill yourself."

    Which costs more?

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  • Mon, Nov 29, 2021 - 10:49pm

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    cmbrunette said:

    Les, is that needle-hits-the-arm- vaccinated, or cdc defined immunity-delay-period vaccinated? Personally, the recent cases I've heard about are vaccinated.

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  • Mon, Nov 29, 2021 - 11:37pm

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    cmbrunette

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    Variant emersion rate of change?

    Question to Chris or others more biologically knowledgeable than this trained Industrial engineer: Given Dr. Vanden Bosche's (may have spelled that wrong - apologies) theory / prediction...is there a valid measurement of rate of change in mutation of a particular virus? I haven't seen any reporting of this. By my eyeball, on the few charts I've seen, it does seem that the rate of change in the  number of mutations has increased since the intro of spike protein vaccines, but it would be interesting to see if there was a mathematically provable increase.

    Thanks

    chris

     

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  • Wed, Dec 01, 2021 - 8:38am

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    TravelinGerry

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    Purpusful Obsfucation

    The Hill reports "Waasila Jassat, a public-health specialist at the NICD, however, said the proportion of people who have tested positive for COVID-19 and been hospitalized over the past two weeks in one part with previous waves of infection in South Africa which were powered by other variants." What the hell does that mean.  Are they so determined to hide the facts that they resort to incomprehensible syntax? I assume they are saying that the increase in hospitalization is South Africa are due variants other than Omicron. Of course, admitting that would nullify the whole purpose of the article, which is of course to incite panic.

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  • Wed, Dec 01, 2021 - 8:56am

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    TravelinGerry

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    More F$!#@ing Nudging from the Hill

    The Hill Headline,
    South African doctor treating omicron patients says vaccinated 'so far have no complication'
    Of course she said this after saying this about all omicron patients and being asked if vaccinated people are also showing only mild symptoms.





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  • Wed, Dec 01, 2021 - 9:42am

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    TravelinGerry

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    Well The Hill isn't all bad





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  • Wed, Dec 01, 2021 - 1:39pm

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    westcoastjan

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    SA data splice = case lies

    Not sure if this has been posted yet... some interesting points made!

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-omicron-absurdities-continue

    ...but there is a second wrinkle hidden in this data: most of this rise is due to a data discontinuity that blew all the averages into the stratosphere because the nature of the reporting changed.

    on nov 23, south africa started including antigen tests in its case count. It can be clearly seen in this graphic produced by long time gatopal™ @kerpen who has done so much really excellent work all pandemic (and who continues to do so). ...

    Great graphic illustrating the above in the article.

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  • Wed, Dec 01, 2021 - 2:26pm

    Disco Bear

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    graphic showing the data splice in westcoastjan's post #88

    Here's that graphic showing the data splice that westcoastjan comments about in post 88.

    there’s the mystery of the incredible spread rate solved. it’s a data splice. never, ever trust a trend change that takes place at a data splice. it’s 99%+ likely to be a data artifact. this certainly appears to be.

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