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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 8:19pm

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    wyrldtraveler

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    re: Salk

    There is some debate as to the efficacy of the vaccine to curb polio outside of mainstream science.  The argument has been made that the outbreak was already on the decline when the vaccine was introduced.

    While I am not going to argue for or against, it may be interesting to note that there do not appear to be any studies of the efficacy of a vaccine vs. not vaccinating (a control group) in which side effects are tracked.  (If you believe that there are no harmful possible side effects, one need only read the insert which comes with the vaccine itself.)  It may also be interesting to note that a vaccine is supposed to protect the recipient from disease, yet people who can’t be bothered to hold the door open for me in a rainstorm are terrified that I might NOT get a vaccine… like they care if I get sick or not?  As a vaccinated person, they are protected, right?

    Or is something strange here?  Nevermind, what are the Kardashians up to these days?

    We have been told that a SARS vaccine was produced and served only to supercharge the body’s negative reaction to the virus in mice.  We cannot confirm nor disprove that a SARS vaccine was introduced in Wuhan or elsewhere in China.

    We also have to deal with the asymptomatic spread of the virus and the rate of contagion; I’m not even sure that we have proof that it is not transmitted as an aerosol.  Too many unknowns to declare “all clear” quite yet.  My signal that it’s probably okay is a month after the Superbowl- the US equivalent to Wuhan’s CNY exodus.

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 8:16pm

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    cool aid

    I almost bought the cool aid,this fight is not in big city. This fight is in the small towns and villages. If China looses in the country nothing they do in the big city will help.What China has done in the big city is very impressive,but it is the cool aid,only time will tell the real story here.

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 8:02pm

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    Risk calculation

    What i see from 2003 is SARS dying out in May in Hong Kong. Important is temperature, humidity and sunlight (UV).
    So i made up an table in which i added these numbers. When the total arise above 45 corona starts to be seriously hampered.

    Then i did the same for New York. They only get there late in June, July and August.

    risk calculation SARS

    You can do this for your own city.

    Ex claimer : This is my personal way of seeing things.

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 7:55pm

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    Sparky1

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    Gail T., "Chinese coronavirus" as nature's intergenerational economic equalizer

    Wow! This is the first time I’ve seen this sentiment expressed so bluntly. Occasionally I’ve seen it buried in the comments section of some YT video or MSM article.

    Excerpt:

    “…the operation of the Chinese coronavirus might even be considered a benefit to society as a whole. The world has overcome the impact of measles, typhoid, polio, and many other diseases. In some sense, it “needs” a new disease added to its portfolio, to replace the ones that have been mostly taken care of by modern medicine. In this way, pensions and other payments targeting the old and weak don’t become too great a burden on the young.”

    So, nature came up with the “Chinese coronavirus” as a means of reducing the numbers of old and weak depending on pensions and other payments?? The World Health (and Trade) Organization might find her economic imperative argument persuasive. However, they won’t be happy with her referring to Covid-2019 as the “Chinese coronavirus”–potentially racist. (But not a problem being ageist?)

     

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 7:49pm

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    wyrldtraveler

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    most effective weapon, would be one that disabled the enemy economically.

    One can choose to view this as a war between Nation-States; in which case I agree with your reading, but the question here is “Who Benefits?”

    Another view is a war between the Elite (insanely mega-rich) and Everyone Else.  If Leaders care not for the ‘little people’, it doesn’t matter which flag they live under.

    People forget that Kim Jong Il is far away from his friends from boarding school.  He’s doing his job, not enjoying his life.  If he could put it all on autopilot, I am sure he would.

    President Trump and President Clinton are buddies; they went to parties together.  Neither one will be worried if the price of beans doubles or triples overnight.  Bernie is a millionaire.  I can only speculate how many professional politicians are still in office because they would be subject to criminal charges once they leave politics.  They can call for disarming the public since they have taxpayer-funded security teams (armed with the latest tech) to protect them…. from us?

    The Elite could weather a 6 month disruption; the single mom on SNAP/food stamps/public assistance can’t last 2 weeks, if not 2 days.

    Rioting will justify use of force.  Wait for it; it’s coming.  If you’ve never been in a riot, you won’t recognize the signs, but it’s building up to a breaking point.  This might be what pushes people over the edge.

    The ideal outcome for a ruling elite is for the people to enslave themselves, willingly.  Forced vaccinations (for our safety)?   Food kitchens for the masses (due to the mess that China created)? We can only speculate.

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 7:28pm

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    Senator Tom Cotton says no more lies China!!!!

    Senator Tom back again……….Go get’em  Tom!

    Maria Baritromo – is that an Owl on your shirt?

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 7:25pm

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    @ 0655...

    Probably not popular, but the truth.

    Lots of people today seem to think they are going to live forever.

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 7:04pm

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    Tom Sammy

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    China’s “Quarantine” Strategy??

    I’ve seen a lot of disturbing footage from China with folks being dragged away against their will, entire apartment complexes being sealed shut, and quarantine “hospitals” (with no medical care, no sanitary practices, yet lots of window bars and locks).  How likely is it that with these “quarantines” the government is expecting the virus to run its course and not have many people ever actually walk out or get better?  In the process by locking everyone in, this reduces the stress on the hospital systems. Also, since to those infected cannot leave their home they can’t be counted….. things “look” better as daily counts should slow down.

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 6:09pm

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    Alexis

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    New York- buffalo area hiding cases?

    I admit I peruse twitter looking for news Since this whole ncov started… it is how I solidified my weird feelings about this while coronavirus thing to begin with, which lead me to PP. Point being, Twitter let’s people get info out quickly although takes time to verify I admit.

    I just came across what appears to be a man saying his wife works at one of the hospitals in Buffalo, NY and he says they are and have tested many Chinese students, from Hubei he states (but sure how does he know that right?). He says the medical and police staff have been served gag orders to not discuss the true situation. I have been highly suspect if USA only having 15 confirmed cases. I’m also very suspicious about why we never get follow ups… whatever happened to the couple in Cali who were taken to the hospital after worsening? The little girl that was taken back to the hospital for more testing… anyway. I do believe, where there is smoke there is fire. I keep hearing about how bad our flu season is, yet there are people saying they have flu like symptoms but no one will test for ncov and flu/strep are coming back negative. Too many of these happening in different social media accounts. I thinking I’m drawing my red line to the end of this week and the we are going on lockdown here. Ordering the last of my supplies tonight!

    here is one of the videos of the man talking, there is another thread saying this same thing is happening somewhere in Pa. I’m in Houston with rows upon rows of hospitals and international community. I’m sure it’s here as well. 🙁 I’ve tried searching in my local group forums but oddly, there is 00000 info on Facebook about it. Info Suppression for sure.

    another note, someone shipped a bit from an event 201 talk and the lady at the podium says something to the degree about needing to only be “1 voice” during this sort of (epidemic) situation and they should suppress other sources of news. So i think we should all beef up on the suggestions from the event 201 outcome. Oddly enough, I saw bill gates just places an order for another mega yacht…..

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  • Sun, Feb 16, 2020 - 6:05pm

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    ... sat at their desks and meditated

    agitating prop-

    Albrecht got was a rare look into the strange and secretive world of the newspaper, which was founded by practitioners of the Falun Gong spiritual discipline that originated in China. The Times’ staff members Albrecht met in the Berlin office were all devotees of Falun Gong. Every day at 6 p.m., a bell rang, and everyone in the newsroom stopped what they were doing, sat at their desks, and meditated.

    Well now.  That’s scary indeed.  Meditation.  A sign of the apocalypse.

    I’m not Falun Gong, and I don’t have any inclination to join, but surely someone can come up with something more sinister than a daily meditation.  [Full disclosure; I meditate.]

    As for organ harvesting, that’s pretty well documented stuff.  Go down that rabbit hole if you care to look.  The CCP has a massive organ transplant “tourist” business, and no discernable voluntary organ donation program.  As a transplant tourist, you can schedule your heart transplant in advance.  This is only available in China, and there is only one possible explanation for how that can work out.

    “How to turn political prisoners into a profit center.”

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