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Bunkers 'R' Not Us: Correcting Boston Magazine’s Take on This Movement

Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:33 AM

The End is Near, Inc.

This is the title of the recent full-spread article in Boston Magazine about me, my work, and our community. It’s due out in hard print on Sunday with the Boston Globe. It is already available online here.

Unfortunately, the article relies too much on sensationalistic stereotypes and includes some troubling distortions.  My chief concern is that the story, told through a very few limited, out-of-context, and edited quotes, paints a picture of Becca and me as doomsayers with a bunker mentality.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

We somewhat reluctantly agreed to have our whole family included in this very public article, opened our home for several days for the effort, and are now wrestling with the impacts that will stem from the fact that our best efforts have now been tagged as “The End is Near, Inc.” - an unfortunate mischaracterization that completely misses what we are really about while implying that we do this for the money. 

And though the editor has agreed to remove it in the online edition, the print edition contains a 100% Photoshopped creation of me in a bunker, instead of the actual photo that was taken of me in my (completely normal, albeit messy) home office.  We did not have a chance to review the content or the images prior to publication, which will never happen again.

Look at what they did with a gray screen shot (before, then after) without ever indicating that they'd do such a thing, let alone seeking my permission:

Yikes.  To be completely clear:  I do not have a bunker, do not know anybody who does, have never advocated that anybody build one, and utterly distance myself from the cultural stereotyping that is implied by the idea of a bunker and all associated imagery.

I can say that I’m disappointed, but I can’t say I’m terribly surprised. The article’s publication has been an important learning experience—it’s reminded me how difficult this story is to tell to the average person.  It’s a challenge to get most people to understand that while change is inevitable, it’s only bad if we fail to adapt on time and on our own terms.

The irony here is that Boston Magazine intended this to be a positive piece on the impact of my message and the large audience that it has resonated with to date.  But in relying on easy “survivalist” stereotypes to frame the story (bunkers, Mad Max references, etc), they’ve succeed in missing the forest for the trees, conveying an image in polar opposition to what we actually stand for.

The work here has been so successful because I strive at every turn to leave my opinions and beliefs out of it, which helpfully clarifies the picture for people.  In allowing belief-based slants about preparation to color this article, Boston Magazine has missed out on the fact that what people really want and need right now is truth and the facts. 

People are worried these days and have legitimate reasons to be.  We need to meet that concern directly and honestly while offering helpful information and guidance for building a positive future.

The most unfortunate thing about this is that Boston Magazine missed out on a really big story.  The movement that’s building around this material is not a fringe thing.  There are millions of people - from across the socioeconomic spectrum - thinking about this and changing their lives because of it.

My goal through this work is not to guide people to build bunkers and isolate themselves, but to invest in their communities, strengthen their resilience, and create a world worth inheriting.  Along the way there are indeed some necessary, steps that I think everybody should undertake as individuals, but only as an insufficient set of first actions along a continuum that moves us from being relatively isolated into connected, resilient communities.  I made this abundantly clear.

I am not a part of a group "devoted to spreading the preparedness doctrine," but a card-carrying member of a movement that seeks to build a national narrative that makes sense and that is sustainable.  We understand that awareness precedes understanding and that both must come before actions.  So, yes, we seek to raise awareness as a first step.  After all, somebody has to.

If you want to help us in changing the tired story that the mainstream media repeatedly chooses to tell about this message, then I’d encourage you to read the article and comment or write to the editor to tell them what this movement is really about.  If you do take the time to send along your thoughts, I would ask that you make them as factual, calm, and collected as possible. 

Best,

Chris Martenson


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Chris and family, I am sorry for the upset this story has caused you all.  I do hope others here are right, and the publicity will be for the good, all the same.

JAG, you just rock! Smile(PS Hope you aren't near the hurricane/Alex?)

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Chris,

The Boston Magazine article is so distorted it kind of amused me when I read it .... but exposure is exposure and I suspect it will still help the CrashCourse cause more than it hurts.

I recently planted some apple trees in my back yard.  Some of my neighbors witnessed me committing this dastardly act. They literally treated me like I was from outer space.... how fringe is that, the thought of growing some of your own food?   Sad to say, but I would guess that to Pagan Kennedy's eyes, when she saw your orchard, chickens and the gun club, you did look pretty fringe.  

Brian

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I would say this woman had every intention of writing this story exactly the way she wrote it from the onset.  She then just led you down her path of lies.  It's the way the media works, we all know that right?  

I agree with the "just roll with it" comment.  If people are meant to understand, they will.  They will come to this site because something in them, tells them they should. 

When they visit they will see the enormous help and hope for the future you offer.

She got one thing right, the end of something is near.

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Chris,

Sorry you had to have this unfortunate experience but as the saying goes, lesson learned.  Your story has obviously been sensationalized and the bunker photochopping was definitely over the top.  As newspaper/magazines stories go, however, she really didn't do too bad a job considering what she could have written if she were really out to ambush you.  I could be wrong but the sense I get is that she just wanted to create an unusual and interesting (albeit sensationalistic) story that would attract readers.  I don't get the sense that she wanted to do a hatchet job on you.  She actually seemed to be harder on gold and guns than you.

I've had several news stories done on me and truthfully, except for one exception, they bore only a passing resemblance to reality.  It was actually a publication written by teenagers with a journalistic bent which had the most accurate interview.  The others tended to play me up in a way that made me look better than I am, something that I personally found to be rather embarassing.  As a consequence of these distortions of the truth, I've refused other requests for interviews including a request to be featured on a TV program.  Interestingly, keeping somewhat of an air of mystery about what I do has been more positive for me professionally than anything the media has done.

Your open and sharing nature is commendable and speaks highly of the type of person you are.  If I were in your shoes though, I would only do interviews if I had tighter control over the content and I would absolutely refrain from bringing these people into my home or personal haunts.  Media people, quite frankly, aren't to be trusted and my dealings with them would be arms length and impersonal.

It's a shame these type of things have to happen but as I tell my kids, the real world is full contact and even the very best can take a hit.  The important thing is to shake it off and keep on going.  You're doing a fantastic job and I, for one, am very grateful for all you've done.

 

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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Lesson learned and it won't happen again I am sure. Keep up the good work. To those of us you have assisted in this broad educational effort and the peace of mind that comes from the preparedness, we salute you and your family. And JAG, thanks for the best laugh I have had in 6 months. chris

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Grass Roots is called that for a reason, a bloody good reason...

My father was [screwed] over by 60 minutes decades ago when they came into our house and did the exact same thing to us.  The day after it was aired, at 7pm on a Sunday evening, there were camera crews camped on our front lawn.  I know how it feels. It is aweful. I am sorry you have had to endure this. I feel for you and your family, it really does hurt to have a message you believe in betrayed.

My father started a charity for dieing children;  the article hung him out as a crook, it was slanted, it was lies.  The show gutted my father, he never really recovered, getting sick, getting cancer.  I no longer blame 60 minutes; can you blame a shark for biting people?  

The Chinese have a lovely saying;  'It is in vein to look for yesterdays fish in the house of the Otter'

I suggest that your message isn’t a main stream message, and as such it is not in the nature of the MSM to report such messages. Is it in vein to look for them to do so? Is the risk greater than the reward in attempting to do so? I dont know. 

It seems to me that just as it is not in our nature to understand the exponential function, it is not in our nature to embrace the carrier of bad tidings.  The reporter that has slandered Chris is no different to the 99% of people that don’t get the message already; when they look at the world and they hate what they see [environmental destruction, human exploitation, starvation, criminality etc] they have to come up with a story, a view of the world and their place in it, that makes it ok for them to continue doing their part in keeping the system that supports the exploitation going. 

I suggest that  we all put yourself in a no-win situation when we try to pass on the CC message to those that have not sought it out, because we all re-write history after the event.  After the dust settles from this, the greatest of crashes, we will all rewrite our personal histories to present to ourselves, and others, a picture of a 'self' that we can live with.

Denial defines our species, we are the only beings that live in denial.  I suggest we take significant risks when we ignore that fact.

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docmims wrote:

Welcome to hardball politics.  You have a message that is dangerous to the debt brokers: therefore you must be ridiculed, misquoted, and trivialized.  It's the usuall modus operandi. 

Chris

I gave them my 2cents (shame on them). I think docmims is right , you must be hitting close to home with your message.

You have developed a fantastic community of diverse caring and intelligent people, no small accomplishment, that speaks volumes!  You have motivated and helped many people including me and mine.  And it continues to grow....

Denise

 

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Boston Magazine heard from me too.  So sorry, Chris and family.  They missed a huge opportunity. 

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Chris and family,

I am brand new to your site. I have watched Crash Course and thoroughly enjoyed it. Your style, clear and concise sentences and message kept my attention. Of course the prospects of the world you describe are scary but as humans we don't want to face tough situations until absolutely necessary.

The article I read seemed jaded as expected but I bet the author believes what you are predicting on some level and is scared because she is no where near prepared either. Mission accomplished! 

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While visiting with some close friends who think I'm "over reacting a bit" when I talk about the 3 E's, I read the Boston.com article and was outraged.  My friends were curious enough about my reaction that they decided to read the article, and after a year of trying to get them to watch TCC, they finally started to watch it.  They got through the first 6 chapters with me right there with them, which they had always found an excuse not to do so in the past.  Guess what? They no longer think I'm crazy and are finally waking up!  Who would have thought that it would take this outrageous article to finally reach friends I care about. 

Keep up the great work Dr. Martenson! Kudos to everyone here who has shown such great support.

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It was really rich how the story delved into exactly nothing concerning the point of your message. Water off a duck's back Chris. While bashing Gold, I bet she never thought about how fiat currency makes endless war possible..............

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I don't think it would have mattered how 'sanitized' the site or forums were... it looked like she was digging for dirt and determined to get it.  The fact is that she didn't really have any 'gotcha!' bits, mostly just subjective associations and phrases taken out of context.  Heck, the phrases she quoted out of the Definitive Firearms Thread in many parts of the country (including my own) would have garnered unhappy but grudging agreement.  Given the subject and some of the unpleasant associations involved, the DFT is a very well-behaved and friendly thread.  And I find her mention of a 'revolutionary wing'(?!?) of the Transition Towns movement gaining ground in the US both puzzling and amusing.

I too left a comment.  And according to Chris' wishes I even managed to do it in a respectful manner, without dropping phrases like "reminiscent of a college term paper hastily written 8 hours before it's due"....  Not without temptation thoughTongue out

(Seriously though, aside from the negative slant there did seem to be a hastily assembled, poorly edited, or rambling quality to it)

- Nick

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http://www.pagankennedy.net/

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Lets look at the bright side

It's sad. The journalist either missed the point or did what journalists often tend to do: twist words and facts to obtain sensational misinformation.

Of course this has a positive side. Many readers will take time to visit this site and follow the crash course. Negative advertisement is also advertisement. In the end the truth always wins. Especially when the truth is so widely spread over the world as Chris does with this website.

Keep up the good work, Doc, and thanks for buying us time to prepare for resilient future.

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Re: Lets look at the bright side

In hindsight...would you really expect someone named "Pagan Kennedy" to be an trustworthy person? Wink

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People trust the media less than politicians. I agree that all publicity is good publicity, though often painful. This article will work in your favor and likely open up a whole new market of careful thinkers who are attempting to understand their emerging discontents. We are experiencing the front edge of a huge paradigm shift, and early messages are always challenged brutally. Your work is spreading virally, and the article will only increase your momentum. 

I am one of the people who is new to your work Chris, though I have thought along these lines since the 70's. I believe in a very short time you have become a true national figure who will be one of the bridge builders and interpreters of the big change.

You have a capacity to explain the difficult future we face and remain resourceful. Any visitor  driven to your site via this article will see who you are and the tone of your message.  

Few have ever thanked me for telling them that we face great change. Some viciously attack perhaps because they know the party is slipping away. Expect these attacks and biases to continue. This is one of the terms of gaining national prominence. I am sure looking back you will see the article as ramping up your momentum. You need that, we need that. The way I see this article, however unfair, as a vote for your significance. More media will come your way as a result of the article and your audience will widen. Sadly the distortions are the terms of being a messenger of change. 

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Re: Bunkers ‘R Not Us: Correcting Boston Magazine’s ...
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
If one interprets "win" as winning the argument it would appear that CM and his CC is somewhere between stages three and four.
The MSM has failed us.
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Here is the letter I sent to the editors:
Dear Editor,
I just want to congratulate you on the outstanding piece of work your reporter did on the work of Dr. Chris Martenson. Boy, he really had me going there for a while. What, with his fact-based scientific approach, his clear thinking, and his sharp analytical skills that can't be found anywhere else. But thanks to your article, now I really "get it" and see that he is just one of those scary militia-types who is out to profit by making me afraid. Whew. That was a close one, but now I can go dig up my gold to sell it so I can buy that Hummer I always wanted. Thanks, Boston Magazine, for setting me straight!
 
Betsy Ames

 

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Chris & others,

I'm not surprised that a magazine that focuses on who the best lawyers in Boston are would do this.  We have been receiving Boston Magazine for years, only because my wife was the labor nurse for the editor many years ago, and they gave her a lifetime subscription.  Most of the time I find this magazine offensive at best.  It's not surprising that the article about Chris and his family would be twisted this way, and of course it's placed between plastic surgery ads.  I read the article last night, before seeing this blog entry, and was really sadened by it.  The message was totally twisted.  On the other hand, those who read Boston Magazine faithfully will be the last to wake up anyway, and of course the first to say "who saw that coming".

On a positive note, this article indicates to me that I still have a little more time to get my own act together, because the ignorance is clearly still widespread.

Dean

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 Hello All,

   I agree with the idea that this article is a net positive for raising awareness of the CC. Please don't take this the wrong way, but she did get one thing right in the article from my perspective . . . she described me pretty well. I am an older white male with assets that I would like to protect (not that there's anything wrong with that). What if the are similar folks who read the article and who've had an uneasy feeling in the pit of their stomach for some time now? They want an overview, a context to form a plan of concrete actions to handle any future. They WILL watch the CC. Ms Kennedy just did them a great favor. The other readers, blissful in their ignorance, will be mildy amused and forget the article by tommorrow's episode of 'The Kardashians'.

  I found Ms Kennedy's myspace page. Based on what I found there, I don't think there was any chance the CC was going to get a fair shake. Just my opinion.

 

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livsez wrote:

While visiting with some close friends who think I'm "over reacting a bit" when I talk about the 3 E's, I read the Boston.com article and was outraged.  My friends were curious enough about my reaction that they decided to read the article, and after a year of trying to get them to watch TCC, they finally started to watch it.  They got through the first 6 chapters with me right there with them, which they had always found an excuse not to do so in the past.  Guess what? They no longer think I'm crazy and are finally waking up!  Who would have thought that it would take this outrageous article to finally reach friends I care about. 

Keep up the great work Dr. Martenson! Kudos to everyone here who has shown such great support.

Proof that the moron never watched the cc before doing the write.

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To Chris and all you other "zealots"-

hehe, bet that got someone's attention.

You (ok, we) are trying to tell people their way of life is over.  We are doing this with simple math and logic.  There will be people that will hate this message, that do not want change, especially any change that reduces in any way their exorbitant, unsustainable lifestyle.  When confronted with data that they are unable to refute, they become angry, and that anger will be directed at the messenger.  I have experienced this myself on several occasions.  I've been talking about the problem of fiat money for about 15 years.

What was written was clearly a deliberate attempt to "kookify" the concept that we cannot continue on our present course.  The longer people stay in the dark, the longer they will place misguided faith in a broken system, and the longer the people benefitting from this system will be able to milk it.  Fiat money has no value without faith, and you are attacking the very core of their faith-based system!

That's the real reason to attack Chris and anyone like him, to preserve the status quo for as long as possible.  I would not expect fair treatment from anyone in the mainstream media, they are owned by masters that have a vested interest in preserving the current regime.

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Re: Bunkers ‘R Not Us: Correcting Boston Magazine’s ...

My letter to the editor-

Good Morning-

I have enjoyed several of your articles in the past, but this morning I read one that seemed out of context for your publication. The article on Chris Martenson seemed more like propaganda than reporting. I realize Mr. Martenson has been distributing information that is quite troubling to many people, but a better approach would have been to attack the data that he presents. I myself have been attempting to do so for several months, and so far have been unable to. I suspect that is why the article is written to ridicule rather than refute.

If you cannot make a logical argument against what Mr. Martenson is "preaching", perhaps you should consider an apology? This article unfortunately dilutes your publication's credibility.

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I hate to say it, Chris, but it's common knowledge that the press does this kind of thing.  I am surprised that a researcher like yourself didn't check out the reporter before agreeing to be interviewed. 

I took a look at the pagankennedy.org website.  That photo alone would have made me back off.

At any rate, your efforts have gained some publicity in the mainstream audience. 

 

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Delete duplicate comment. 

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Mr. Martenson, fuhgetaboudit.  You're a good guy doing good things. 

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Well, I’ve just read the article that has created quite a stir here at home base, and I have to say I’m a bit underwhelmed. I didn’t really see it as a hit piece on Chris Martenson, his family, or his work.

Is it an embarrassing and poorly written article brimming with self-congratulatory snark? That’s beyond doubt. But did she really bash gold or guns? I’m not so sure. Though she certainly addressed these issues -- however cursorily -- with a childish and uninformed eye. A canned comment from a generic, mainstream economist regurgitating dogma hardly serves as a rebuttal to those who’ve bought gold -- and made great returns doing so! Likewise, her gun-wielding anecdote -- framed as high-school adventure --doesn’t serve as a condemnation of gun ownership or even an oblique criticism of gun rights.

But I see the dominant strain within her work to be that of pure ignorance. Distilling her into a stereotype so as to make personal criticism of her more believable, it seems that she is a pop culture-nista who can only see and interact with things with the aforementioned snark, obligatory irreverence, and insincerity required of her ilk to gain acceptance -- most typically for which the forums are various “social networking“ platforms. These people abhor sincerity, fear (which is a form of sincerity), personal/emotional investment (because that creates vulnerability) and personal expression (though curiously this demographic is the most likely to be self-declared “artists”).

That aside, I think the most important take-away that may be being missed here is that her reaction to the work of Chris Martenson and this website is more or less the way most people feel about it. It’s a culturally pre-selected and pre-determined reaction that conveniently places the subject into the Mad Max box and then ridicules them/it for, essentially, not being bullish enough on America and the status quo. So in this sense, Ms. Kennedy’s article is accurate -- both to her and tens of millions of Americans who are forced by fear and cultural control to see Chris in the exact same light. This represents “the movement’s” biggest challenge -- those who are unaware that they‘re even carrying water for the high priests and cultural managers.

And to those concerned that this could derail Chris. Don’t be. Go back and read the article again. It’s utter lack of seriousness and odd non-addressing of Chris’s fundamental points will be apparent to even critics of the Crash Course. It’s so ham-handed, so transparent, so naïve it could practically be an ironic piece in The Onion created to lampoon people just like Pagan Kennedy.

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maincooncat, post 77

You have made an excellent analysis of the article and its implications.  I suspect that after we all get over our personal sense of outrage we will be able to see this more clearly.

You wrote -- " … it seems that she is a pop culture-nista who can only see and interact with things with the aforementioned snark, obligatory irreverence, and insincerity required of her ilk to gain acceptance."

After visiting her web site and Wikipedia listing I think you have her pegged.  She is primarily a novelist by profession.

You wrote -- "That aside, I think the most important take-away that may be being missed here is that her reaction to the work of Chris Martenson and this website is more or less the way most people feel about it. It’s a culturally pre-selected and pre-determined reaction that conveniently places the subject into the Mad Max box and then ridicules them/it for, essentially, not being bullish enough on America and the status quo. So in this sense, Ms. Kennedy’s article is accurate -- both to her and tens of millions of Americans who are forced by fear and cultural control to see Chris in the exact same light. This represents “the movement’s” biggest challenge -- those who are unaware that they‘re even carrying water for the high priests and cultural managers."

So is our sense of outrage and desire to demean the message of Page Kennedy a mirror of the response of the broader culture to us?  That's worth some thought.  Chris's challenge is based on facts and logic, whereas hers was not.  But a lot of people don't have the capability to evaluate Chris's facts and logic, and we've all seen predictions that seem logical but don't come to pass.  Most people will fall back on what they believe.

As Chris has often said, challenging beliefs provokes strong reactions.  It works both ways.  All of us need to remember that we carry a threatening message  people don't want to hear.  We have to control our own reactions to hostility to be effective.  It ain't easy.

 

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mainecooncat wrote:

Well, I’ve just read the article that has created quite a stir here at home base, and I have to say I’m a bit underwhelmed. I didn’t really see it as a hit piece on Chris Martenson, his family, or his work.

 

I agree...I did not think it was a totally disastrous piece...but you were spot on about her level of "snark."

I think my big issue with her article is that she cannot have possibly watched the Crash Course and written that. That is just plain irresponsible.

And yet, THIS woman is a visiting writer in non-fiction at Dartmouth? Wow. No wonder our journalism is in the sorry state it is in today.

 

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Brush it off, Chris. Slander and attack is the lot of those who take a stand, follow the truth and their heart, but all that is of no consequence - it will not hurt you or your work. Time will show what is what. Here's my response letter to the editor of Boston Magazine:

 

Regarding Boston Magazine article “The End is Near” by Pagan Kennedy, published online June 24 2010:

 

I cannot understand how Boston Magazine came to the conclusion that Chris Martenson’s motives are personal financial gain and that his service is designed to destroy confidence in the status quo, promote doomsday thinking and encourage survivalism.

On the contrary, he is clarifying an understanding that people everywhere are increasingly sensing is the reality:  that the old economic model and human ecology is no longer relevant or positive, and that a bright new paradigm is rising, including a better economy and a higher quality of life.  He suggests how to get there gracefully and, in case the road there is rocky, how to stand on our own feet and help our society. 

I would call his motives and service a sincere concern for humanity and the Earth, basic common-sense risk management, intelligence and vision for positive outcome through positive, cooperative action at the grassroots and government levels. 

If this article was meant to be objective, why didn’t it mention the recognized limits we are exceeding in all aspects of our life support  -  especially manageable debt, natural resources  and fossil energy -  which the establishment is ignoring or not addressing adequately in favor of maintaining the status quo? 

Why didn’t the article mention the abuses of the fiat monetary system and apparent attendant manipulation of the markets through distorted government data to create false confidence? 

Why didn’t it mention that at the recent G20 meeting the majority of countries chose to bail out of the Fed’s bailout strategy, in consonance with Martenson’s objective assessment, or that Martenson recently presented his big picture assessment on invitation to government leaders at the UK House of Commons?  

Why did the article not state that Martenson’s assessment of the significance of Peak Oil on our way of life is shared by prominent oil geologists, economists and the DOE’s own risk assessment efforts in the 2005 Hirsch report, apparently shelved to maintain “confidence” in the status quo? 

In publishing this article did Boston Magazine consider that America might indeed be going down the wrong path, that we may be caught unawares and that this could be tragic?   And that the primary reason for this is ignorance due to the failure of the press in its sacred role to make the truth available to the people.  Is Boston Magazine on the status quo and ignorance bandwagon? 

What a disappointment!  This article distorts the truth and slanders a truthful person and servant of humanity.

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mainecooncat wrote:

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But I see the dominant strain within her work to be that of pure ignorance. Distilling her into a stereotype so as to make personal criticism of her more believable, it seems that she is a pop culture-nista who can only see and interact with things with the aforementioned snark, obligatory irreverence, and insincerity required of her ilk to gain acceptance -- most typically for which the forums are various “social networking“ platforms. These people abhor sincerity, fear (which is a form of sincerity), personal/emotional investment (because that creates vulnerability) and personal expression (though curiously this demographic is the most likely to be self-declared “artists”).

That aside, I think the most important take-away that may be being missed here is that her reaction to the work of Chris Martenson and this website is more or less the way most people feel about it. It’s a culturally pre-selected and pre-determined reaction that conveniently places the subject into the Mad Max box and then ridicules them/it for, essentially, not being bullish enough on America and the status quo. So in this sense, Ms. Kennedy’s article is accurate -- both to her and tens of millions of Americans who are forced by fear and cultural control to see Chris in the exact same light. This represents “the movement’s” biggest challenge -- those who are unaware that they‘re even carrying water for the high priests and cultural managers.

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Beautifully written. I don't need to read the article to know that this critique of Pagan Kennedy's standard MSM dribble is spot on.

Eah gads!! Sometimes you can tell a book by its cover.

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soulsurfersteph wrote:
mainecooncat wrote:

Well, I’ve just read the article that has created quite a stir here at home base, and I have to say I’m a bit underwhelmed. I didn’t really see it as a hit piece on Chris Martenson, his family, or his work.

 

 

I think my big issue with her article is that she cannot have possibly watched the Crash Course and written that. That is just plain irresponsible.

And yet, THIS woman is a visiting writer in non-fiction at Dartmouth? Wow.

 

+1. My take exactly - and believe me I told her so much via an email. The 3E's are CM's DNA. Leaving that "little tidbit" out is like leaving BP out of who created the spill.

Bernanke taught at Princeton. Summers went to an ran Harvard. Dartmouth means nothing, all these fine universities seem to be perfectly capable of hiring morons.

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Well, at least The Pagan got a good picture of your chicken. It appears that she (the chicken) pumps out lots of good eggs!Laughing

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xraymike79 wrote:
mainecooncat wrote:

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But I see the dominant strain within her work to be that of pure ignorance. Distilling her into a stereotype so as to make personal criticism of her more believable, it seems that she is a pop culture-nista who can only see and interact with things with the aforementioned snark, obligatory irreverence, and insincerity required of her ilk to gain acceptance -- most typically for which the forums are various “social networking“ platforms. These people abhor sincerity, fear (which is a form of sincerity), personal/emotional investment (because that creates vulnerability) and personal expression (though curiously this demographic is the most likely to be self-declared “artists”).

That aside, I think the most important take-away that may be being missed here is that her reaction to the work of Chris Martenson and this website is more or less the way most people feel about it. It’s a culturally pre-selected and pre-determined reaction that conveniently places the subject into the Mad Max box and then ridicules them/it for, essentially, not being bullish enough on America and the status quo. So in this sense, Ms. Kennedy’s article is accurate -- both to her and tens of millions of Americans who are forced by fear and cultural control to see Chris in the exact same light. This represents “the movement’s” biggest challenge -- those who are unaware that they‘re even carrying water for the high priests and cultural managers.

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Beautifully written. I don't need to read the article to know that this critique of Pagan Kennedy's standard MSM dribble is spot on.

Eah gads!! Sometimes you can tell a book by its cover.

LOL and +1!!!!

I think mainecooncat's psycho-analysis is so spot-on, it's like listening to Hannibal Lecter (no offense intended, MCC)!

I had the same impression of her from the picture as well - as soon as I saw that, I knew exactly where she was coming from.  Although I do hate to be so judgemental, sometimes it's just way too freakin' obvious. Chris, I would have run the other way as soon as I saw her!

FB

 

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Davos,

And producing them =)
(...not to say some very intelligent people don't come from there as well)

Dr. Martenson,

Thanks for the words. After giving it a day to think over, this kind of writing is going to come across as lazy and incongruous with the materal presented. It's akin to some idiot shouting "Sure the emporer has clothes, just look!" while pointing a pompous finger at a naked emporer, head held high.

All truth truly passes through the 3 phases, and this is just a sure sign of progress.

Cheers to all,

Aaron

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Aaron Moyer wrote:

Davos,

(...not to say some very intelligent people don't come from there as well)

 

I know several. Each and everyone of them has common sense in addition to brilliance that got them in the school. Every moron with lots of book smarts I read about or know have 0 common sense. Leaving out the Crash Course, which is Chris's genetic make up is definitive proof Pagan is not a journalist and probably will never be one. I like her style of writing and I'm certain she can crank out some creative fiction. But when it comes to journalism the word utter and absolute moron comes to mind.

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Chris, as someone who has written for Boston Magazine (it's not the Boston Globe Magazine, by the way, it's an entirely different publication) I suggest you let this go. This is standard slick magazine journalsm.  The last article I wrote for BM (obviously, my name here is not my byline) was about one of the US's richest men, who happened to be a lovely human being, a philanthropist, and someone who changed my life simply by letting me interview him.

The editor accepted my draft as submitted, but wanted me to go back and ask him how he felt when his 8-year-old daughter was killed by a motorist while riding her bike. I refused. I'm sure you don't need me to explain why.  I never got another assignment from that editor.

Negativity is what sells. That's the fault of the audience, not the publication. They're just responding, trying to make a living.

Step back a bit, put your ego on hold for a while, and you'll see that the article says more about the writer and her world view than about you and your motives. Think like a politician and you'll realize the wisdom of the saying, "Say whatever you want about me, as long as you spell my name right."

Readers will be intrigued by what they read about you. Some will seek out your work. None will stay away because they're turned off by the fact that you get paid for some of what you do.

This article will not hurt you, unless you let it.

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2000 posts and the most sensational statements she can make are:

Now I want to see what Martenson's brethren say about firearms. On his website, I click through various forums and a "definitive firearms" thread, which contains more than 2,000 comments, plus instructions for building a home arsenal. "I dread the day that I might need to defend my family and friends with a gun. But, I realize that is a very real possibility," a member writes in one forum. Another comments that once enough people get desperate, "it might be too late to avoid some blood in the streets."

I found that to be very telling of the CM community's altruistic nature.

If this were any other forum community discussing firearms and preparations the posts she'd read would have led her to peg us all as Ruby Waco.

The DFT is a valuable part of the CM community.

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solarphil wrote:

In publishing this article did Boston Magazine consider that America might indeed be going down the wrong path, that we may be caught unawares and that this could be tragic?   And that the primary reason for this is ignorance due to the failure of the press in its sacred role to make the truth available to the people.  Is Boston Magazine on the status quo and ignorance bandwagon? 

What a disappointment!  This article distorts the truth and slanders a truthful person and servant of humanity.

+10!  Well said, solarphil!

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Boston Magazine, refered to as BM in several post on this thread.  I got a good laugh from that.

BM was the code word my wife and I used for a certain bodily function while potty training our children.

 

 

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The ethics of newsgathering has been a point of contention for reporters for years.  “Every journalist who is not too stupid or too full of himself to notice what is going on knows that what he does is morally indefensible,” Janet Malcolm wrote in The Journalist and the Murderer, an ethics study rated as one of the Top 100 works of non-fiction in the 20th century, “He is a kind of confidence man, preying on people’s vanity, ignorance or loneliness, gaining their trust and betraying them without remorse.”

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...the propaganda model of journalism.  One that is marked by reporter’s dependence on officials for “information subsidies” and a fear of reprisal for reporting unkind information.

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The Fourth Estate or the Fourth Stooge? Mainstream press react to ...

I'm sure Pagan Kennedy already had preconceived notions of CM - a fringe survivalist, gun-toting, anti-government, end-of-days, gold-hoarding movement. These narrow views may be selectively drawn from some of the threads in the discussion forum, but in no way do they appear in the central message of the CM Crash Course, something Pagan evidently overlooked in her zeal to put out a titillating article. She took advantage of a real concern that CM has for this country and the world and twisted it into a loony tune bunker mentality. And so one would have to conclude that CM's best interests, as well as that of the American public and the world, were not best served. 

 

 

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Dear Chris,

I wrote a brief post yesterday to let you know that I, too, have sent my 2 cents in to Boston Magazine.  Can't find it on the blogs here on CM.com, so I am reposting.  Mostly I just want to echo what others have said.  And also to say, to BM... what a shame that they missed an opportunity to produce an important piece of journalism and to make a contribution to our world, the sort of contribution you have been knocking yourself out to bring to public awareness. 

from my letter:

"I rushed to read the Chris Martenson article in the July issue of Boston Magazine, and I can't tell you how disappointed I am that Chris Martenson's ideas aren't reported with the gravity and substance they deserve. Your writer doesn't even mention Chris's core premise about how the three E's (energy, economy, environment)are linked in an unsustainable way. Chris's ideas are wonderfully accessible to average people, his website is visited every day by serious thinkers and he has received growing recognition around the world for his ability to explain complicated economic theory and to address audiences composed of average folks, serious academics, and professional investors. He has been invited to speak all over the country and most recently in the UK and in Norway. He's made himself and his urgent message available to anyone who is willing to listen and learn. He is a person of integrity who works tirelessly to promote ideas that he realizes we all need to understand. I am just awfully dismayed to see him and his family misrepresented and private information revealed in such a careless and flimsy article. And what a disappointment that an opportunity to educate your readers has been missed. "

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LadyMondegreen wrote:

Chris, as someone who has written for Boston Magazine (it's not the Boston Globe Magazine, by the way, it's an entirely different publication) I suggest you let this go. This is standard slick magazine journalsm.  The last article I wrote for BM (obviously, my name here is not my byline) was about one of the US's richest men, who happened to be a lovely human being, a philanthropist, and someone who changed my life simply by letting me interview him.

The editor accepted my draft as submitted, but wanted me to go back and ask him how he felt when his 8-year-old daughter was killed by a motorist while riding her bike. I refused. I'm sure you don't need me to explain why.  I never got another assignment from that editor.

Negativity is what sells. That's the fault of the audience, not the publication. They're just responding, trying to make a living.

Step back a bit, put your ego on hold for a while, and you'll see that the article says more about the writer and her world view than about you and your motives. Think like a politician and you'll realize the wisdom of the saying, "Say whatever you want about me, as long as you spell my name right."

Readers will be intrigued by what they read about you. Some will seek out your work. None will stay away because they're turned off by the fact that you get paid for some of what you do.

This article will not hurt you, unless you let it.

Well said, thank you for sharing that first post.

I was recently slammed and name-called elsewhere when trying to promote awareness of economic and energy issues, but I just let it go - because I realized it was not about me - it was about them.

 

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LadyMondegreen wrote:

Negativity is what sells. That's the fault of the audience, not the publication. They're just responding, trying to make a living.

Step back a bit, put your ego on hold for a while, and you'll see that the article says more about the writer and her world view than about you and your motives. Think like a politician and you'll realize the wisdom of the saying, "Say whatever you want about me, as long as you spell my name right."

...

This article will not hurt you, unless you let it.

Hi Dr. M,

I'm surprised 2X.  I didn't think the article was THAT bad... actually it didn't fall TOO FAR BELOW my expectations. But, those are pretty low these days, especially for anything "mainstream."

I'm also very surprised by this community. I didn't find myself gettting all up in arms until I started reading many of the comments. Upon reflection, my outlook is very different living in Alabama. We are rarely treated as well as you, but we've come to accept it.

I remember last year when I found out from Janet Incompetano that I am a right wing extremist. (.. those that are former military, oppose abortion or attend church regularly are more likely to be...) I had NEVER thought of myself that way.  Most of my coworkers found out about the same time. We talked alot about it and supported eachother thru it. Now we've come to terms with the labeling and can even joke about it. But we do not have an important message that we are trying to share with the world.

While I jest about coping mechanisms, my best suggestion is to continue doing what you are doing. Your message is clear from your website and your works, and I think it is important. You might take a few lessons from this, though. Resist any overture that might detract from or distract your message (like the shooing range). Be clear about what photographic editing you will allow. Maintain final approval rights. etc.

Most of all, don't stop your mission because of one misleading article. After all, the author might be truly incompetent, totally biased/stereotyping, or THEY might have kidnapped her small child and forced her to do it!!!!!

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Well I admire the high road some take. I'm not putting my hoofs on that path.

I myself have a major issue with the press not doing it's job. IMO it is why we are where we are today. This charge card that our elected morons and the "Fed" toss around so they can get re-elected and God knows what from lobbyist- the bill for their reprehensible spending comes to us, and our kids, and our kid's children. If people had a financial clue they'd put a stop to this insanity. Bailing out criminals for criminal fraudulent loan making - that is what the bailout was, and it wasn't 700 billion it was north of 10 trillion with an additional hook for another 10+/-.

And where is the press on that? Covering some small time moron like Madoff, that is where. 

I'm totally convinced that she didn't watch the Crash Course, which literally is the DNA that makes up Chris. It is what Chris lives for, lives by and promotes. She missed it. She didn't even hit the side of the barn. She shot the other way.

If she watched it and printed that then I'd have to use the M word to describe my thoughts.

I emailed her and flat out told her she is a talented writer but should stick to fiction, she has no business as a journalist, she should find a different career. And I'm not being mean - that is just the reality of the situation. Jeremy Grantham and the billionaire who sent me CM's link and the ex-Governor who chimed in on CM's work wouldn't recommend some bunker loon.

The press has lost it's pedigree and I am thankful for fine blogs and virtual communities like this.

 

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In regard to Wikipedia, isn't this particular issue somewhat newsworthy?

Surely there must be a seasoned writer lurking in our midst who has the way-with-all to write a little something into an inordinately squeaky-clean Wikipedia past history?

Here, let me give a helping hand ...

Pagan Kennedy' Wikipedia page

...taking into account a piece of script at the bottom of it:-

Wikipedia wrote:

This article about a fiction writer from the United States is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. 

Before you take the bull by the horns however, have a watch through John pilger discussing what real journalism is about, from an old-school perspective ...

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John Pilger ~ "Propaganda by Journalism"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4258131083758254736

Transcript

Quote:

From the book - The Great Gadsby

'I couldn’t forgive him or like him, but I saw that what he had done was, to him, entirely justified. It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people, Tom and Daisy—they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made. …

~ VF ~

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"Martenson's average client is a type-A male who has watched Crash Course and fears losing his savings in a blink."

Hey, I resemble that remark!Wink

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People, I know it's tempting to want to go out and trash Pagan's Wikipedia page, but if she gets attacked too much, her next article will be "How those Crazy Chris Cultists Stalked Me Online" or some such nonsense. Let her be. She's not worth it.  

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Personally, I don't think the article is nearly as bad as some think. I found it quite readable and could bring me to check into what Chris is talking about. I think that almost any publicity is good ( some better than others admittedly), but this one comes down on the plus side as far as I'm concerned. I posted the following on the Boston Magazine site (or at least asked to have it posted)

 

I have been a follower of Chris for several years now and have developed the highest of respect for him and his message - especially his "Crash Course"
While the article may not entirely capture Chris' story and position as accurately as one could hope for, I find it acceptably done and will, I hope, encourage more people to look deeper. I don't think any article will really capture what is going on here anyway.
I strongly encourage any readers of the article to take the time and go to the source at www.PeakProsperity.com to find out what may be the most important information you will ever learn.
Jim

I have been a follower of Chris for several years now and have developed the highest of respect for him and his message - especially his "Crash Course" While the article may not entirely capture Chris' story and position as accurately as one could hope for, I find it acceptably done and will, I hope, encourage more people to look deeper. I don't think any article will really capture what is going on here anyway.I strongly encourage any readers of the article to take the time and go to the source at www.PeakProsperity.com to find out what may be the most important information you will ever learn.

Jim

Jim

 

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Well, I am quite humbled and uplifted by the many thoughtful, careful and sometimes impassioned responses to this article.  I will admit to being initially dismayed by the lost opportunity to tell the story right, and by a bit of disappointment that the author had been unable to professionally shelve her own biases and beliefs in the interest of capturing the true essence of the material at hand (which we offered up generously and on a silver platter).

No matter, what's done is done and I, more than most, am in a position to appreciate the lack of clarity that being in "stage one" affords the normal person.  The author is not the member of some special tribe of gatekeepers, she's just another person who has to struggle with the enormous emotional implications of this material.  No higher, no lower, no better, no worse.  Just like us, in other words.

I can (not so fondly) recall my earliest states of mind as I wrestled with this material.   I think that everybody here who is at "stage II" and beyond would do well to remember the early days, myself included.

I need to also place a very strong request here to not bombard, harass or otherwise try to "teach Pagan a lesson" by email, Facebook, MySpace, or Wiki, or any other way.   There's nothing to gain there, and something to lose.

All in all, I've taken to heart the idea that any press is good press.  I'm closer to adopting the politician's credo of, "Write anything you want about me, just be sure to spell my name right!"

As far as Boston Magazine is concerned, I presume this is all a hit.  The End is Near Inc is now at the top of the Most Popular list on their web stats for the past 24 hours measure as well as the past 7 days measure.  Traffic is as traffic does, to quote Forrest Gump.

Do I lament a lost opportunity to get our core message and information out there? You bet.  Is this an unmitigated disaster?  No, there are positives and negatives and time will reveal the balance between the two. 

So, have a great weekend and thank you to everybody who contributed to the conversation, your words are still reverberating in our ears, hearts and minds. 

More later....

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