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Prophets of Doom on the History Channel

I hope other people saw the program "Prophets of Doom" on the History Channel.  They were dead on on most things taking place.  It really looked like they had taken it from the Crash Course.  See if you can catch it when it is on again.  There seems to be more awareness building.

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That was a pretty well done show...they let everyone discuss their POV pretty thoroughly and it turned out that someone completely unaware of The Major Challenges facing the USA (debt/economics/finance, water, energy, terrorism, etc) could come away with a pretty solid understanding of the situation, including the degree to which USA is almost entirely oblivious.

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I dumped TV a year and a half ago so I obviously missed that program though I would like to see it. I think this is it on the Shop History Channel website:

http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=291023&v=history&ecid=PRF-2103964&pa=PRF-2103964

Is it worth $25 bucks? Would it convince an objective observer to take the Red Pill?  If so, then I'm athinkin'  'bout giving it to some folks who might be need a push into coming over from the Dark Side. Or would a Crash Course DVD be better?

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earthwise wrote:

I dumped TV a year and a half ago so I obviously missed that program though I would like to see it. I think this is it on the Shop History Channel website:

http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=291023&v=history&ecid=PRF-2103964&pa=PRF-2103964

Is it worth $25 bucks? Would it convince an objective observer to take the Red Pill?  If so, then I'm athinkin'  'bout giving it to some folks who might be need a push into coming over from the Dark Side. Or would a Crash Course DVD be better?

Yup, that's it.  I thought it was pretty well done and, at about 2 hr, is shorter than the full CC.  The two guys I recognized were Mike Ruppert and Jim Kunstler.  Since I'm familiar with the CC, I wouldn't dump $25 on it.  If, however, you're looking for a different way to get the message out, this might work to get their attention.  Then introduce them to CM.  He supplies the numbers.

One discordant note, that guy who was going on about robots and artificial intelligence.  Our other problems are much more pressing in terms of time and I've never understood why we would fear robots.  If they get troublesome, unplug them and sell them for scrap.Smile

Doug

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Isn't it better to take your $25, buy an ounce of Silver and send that to whoever with a "watch, think and learn" message? A DVD will be discarded, whereas money will capture their attention.

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I watched the show and was surprised to hear an ex fund manager say that it was all a ponzi scheme! It's about time. Hope it woke a few folks up. The first hour was best. Jon

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I happened to catch the last few minutes and thought it sounded interesting.  Just checked The History Channel website for today's schedule and Prophets of Doom airs next at 1am ET (tonight). I can't find it on the schedule after that...at least not for the next several days that I checked. Is it just me, or does it seem odd that they would run something this significant only once in prime time, then bury it in the wee hours graveyard? I guess they would rather run popular distractions such as Ancient Aliens and Pawn Stars ad naseum - I enjoy both shows, but come on, do they have to run them continuously?

Anyway, for those with DVR, set the recorder tonight!

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Is it just me, or does it seem odd that they would run something this significant only once in prime time, then bury it in the wee hours graveyard?

Hey, I'm just happy that they even showed it at all. Does it seem like a slow awakening is beginning or is it just me?

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katyan wrote:

I happened to catch the last few minutes and thought it sounded interesting.  Just checked The History Channel website for today's schedule and Prophets of Doom airs next at 1am ET (tonight). I can't find it on the schedule after that...at least not for the next several days that I checked. Is it just me, or does it seem odd that they would run something this significant only once in prime time, then bury it in the wee hours graveyard? I guess they would rather run popular distractions such as Ancient Aliens and Pawn Stars ad naseum - I enjoy both shows, but come on, do they have to run them continuously?

Anyway, for those with DVR, set the recorder tonight!

I can see it on their website for 1am but that appears to be for 1 am this past morning.  I can't find it on Friday morning at 1am or any time there after.  If anyone else knows when this will play again, please give a shout out.  I would really like to see what this is like.

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Prophets of Doom - Well, Maybe.  The producers of this show made the assumption that no-one was working on these problems.  As far as water and energy are concerned, a permanent solution was engineered by FreshWater Unlimited, Inc. over the past decade.  Eleven years ago executives and scientists at FreshWater Unlimited came to some of the same conclusions presented by the show.  The scientific process is called the "Combined Solar Energy and Seawater Desalination by Thermal Process".  This process was described in detail on our website for three years and only a few governments showed any interest at all.  A proposal was presented to the State of California Water Resources and was rejected years ago.  I'm afraid that this tremendously important technology will never see the light of day until its too late.  Enough freshwater and electricity can be produced for all of mankind for decades to come.  So write your government and request that everything possible be done to approve the consideration of this new technology and the construction of FreshWater Unlimited Facilities.  How long can you go without water?  

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It was not so much doom as I was expecting .  Seems they even had a little hope in the end .

   It made my husband and 13 year old son start  figuring where we are in our prep and what was the next step  that they needed to take . I do not care how prepped you think that you are  , there is always something more to do .

  Now  getting back to the seed catalog .

FM

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earthwise wrote:

katyan wrote:

Is it just me, or does it seem odd that they would run something this significant only once in prime time, then bury it in the wee hours graveyard?

Hey, I'm just happy that they even showed it at all. Does it seem like a slow awakening is beginning or is it just me?

I get the same feeling.  I was talking to a friend yesterday and, since I had already introduced the CC concepts to him, he mentioned a friend he had spoken to about a week ago.  His friend is a CFP and recognizes the financial and monetary trends we watch.  In response he is looking for an off-shore refuge, Australia at the moment.  He is actively planning on getting out of the US. 

Plus, I am seeing more mention of oil price increases, localizing and deficit spending in the msm lately.

Doug

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It's definitely not worth $25. The production setting reminded me of a group of "deep thinkers" passing a doobie in a college dorm room. 

I thought Kunstler's commentary was good, and even Ruppert (sporting the 80's hair) wasn't bad IMO, and I generally can't stand Ruppert. 

But don't give the History Channel any money for this content, pilfer it off the bit-torrent network or usenet. The night before, the HC featured a show about how ancient aliens genetically engineered the human species to act as gold-mining slaves....good grief...their content development team needs to be fired.

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Re: Prophets of Dorm Room on the History Channel

I think this is available on youtube now:

I haven't watched it yet, but the opening sentence sounds very familiar . . .   

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That does sound like it, but with some changes to the order in which things were discussed.  It's interesting how it is marked as "CONTAINING PROPAGANDA."   I wonder if it will be propaganda when they can't fill their gas tanks, get food from the store, or watch their stocks become worth 10% of what they were?

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Pretty much a spot on show.  What we have is unsustainable 

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This documentary could have been quite the wake up call, sadly and stupidly aired, from what I gather, at "Stupid-o'clock" at night.

In my honest opinion, two highly annoying elements were added into the mix of this documentary that will cause me not to share it with family or friends: -

Firstly, yes, advancements in technology could produce violently murderous artificial inteligence or "artilect", as was so pretentiously coined by Hugo De Garis, yet in total agreement with an earlier comment along this thread by Doug, I would have appreciated the documentary a great deal better without De Garis' vapid delusional input.

Secondly, the quite founded, but in many respects paranoid input of Robert Gleason made me balk with the simplicity he considered the production and theft of weapons grade uranium was. The stupidity of his fear-mongering was very almost enough to make me turn off what is in itself a well produced documentary in the main. Sadly, the merit and credibility of James Howard Kunstler, Michael Ruppert and John Cronin were greatly reduced in my eyes because of Gleasons input, no matter the controversy that travels in the wake of the quite infamous and well known Kunstler and Ruppert about this forum.

It is a factor that in making documentaries in this modern age of short concentration span and flashy sound-bite information, that a holocaust header with something superfluous to build psychotic neurosis is key. Personally, I felt that as a primer to get involved with the information within it was fairly well corrupted, Making obvious why Dr. Chris Martenson chose to turn down the opportunity of being one of its "specialists" ...

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VF, I can agree with you about your points although I think it is a decent first step to getting some real attention to Peak Oil and debt currency.  I had to sit there and laugh that they believed there would be an economy capable of AI after the consequences of Peak Oil and debt.

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As an australian, and on behalf of those thoughful australians (not very many), I would like to say sorry for the robot guy.

The water guy had a few facts about australia wrong.:

We don't plan to use sewage for drinking water, we have desalinasation plants that change sea water into drinking water. I assume he was mistaken. We do use recycled water from sewage plants to water football fields and public parks.

We don't have a law about a 5 minute shower. It would be very hard to enforce that, although if the criminal having a long shower was a good looking and single lady then I would volunteer to enforce any such law.

We do/did have water restrictions, which are restrictions about watering gardens, filling swimming pools, washing cars etc. However that was in a 10 year drought, I don't think there will be many places in australia that will be subject to water restrictions after the recent floods.

The really cool thing about australia is that we can get a very large water tank next to the house and catch our own water. I have 7500 gallon tank for my house, and that is a very small tank by some standards.

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Firstly, yes, advancements in technology could produce violently murderous artificial inteligence or "artilect", as was so pretentiously coined by Hugo De Garis, yet in total agreement with an earlier comment along this thread by Doug, I would have appreciated the documentary a great deal better without De Garis' vapid delusional input.

Secondly, the quite founded, but in many respects paranoid input of Robert Gleason made me balk with the simplicity he considered the production and theft of weapons grade uranium was. The stupidity of his fear-mongering was very almost enough to make me turn off what is in itself a well produced documentary in the main.

I second that.

What struck me was that in 1 hour and 13 minutes the surface wasn't even scratched.

I wonder if it's even possible to have these discussions with people who simply aren't interested. There doesn't seem to be anyway to condense the information or effectively translate its importance into a short enough time span.

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I was wondering about the shower police.

One problem with presenting so many problems at once, and problems the average man on the street can't fix, is that it overwhelmes the viewer and he won't do anything about it except maybe get depressed,  The artificial intelligence and terrorism was overkill, just too much to think about at once. 

It was good to get the message out again.....I hope more people get to see it.

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ewilkerson wrote:

I had to sit there and laugh that they believed there would be an economy capable of AI after the consequences of Peak Oil and debt.

I haven't seen the programme but if this relates to the technological singularity idea I think it possible that there may be a future bifurcation of our species.

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I watched it and was mildly impressed.  The water discussion raised an eyebrow.  I was much more impressed and alarmed after watching the History Channel on Sunday when they aired a show about this nation's crumbling and outdated infrastructure.  Bridges, roads, interstate highways, water and sewer lines, fresh water levees, dams, power plants and power grid, are all major challenges requiring attention now, but with no apparent plan and no money allocated for updating. Infrastructure built to last 40-50 years is turning 100 or more and being held together with "patch & pray" methods of applying bandaids where immediate major surgery is called for.  Quite an eye opener, and darn good reasons to prep like there's no tomorrow.

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I was especially concerned about the Technology/Robot discussion of the program.

There is something deep inside of me that sincerely believes that this technology is out of control and in the hands of those who are not responsible enough to know their effects.

It is as though the Technology itself is alive and wants the humans to build them.

I urge everyone to beware of too much Technology in their lives.

Go outside, grow food and enjoy friends.

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skywillow wrote:

I urge everyone to beware of too much Technology in their lives.

Go outside, grow food and enjoy friends.

I'll 2nd that.

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Go outside, grow food and enjoy friends.

...he blogged

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To those of you who liked the program and see it as an awakening, I represent The Human Co-Op and we are currnetly trying to start a school that will teach self-sustainability and community gardening and trading. I would love to be part of the solution and create a more localized form of living. We are just getting started and we hope to get this project off the ground but I would prefer to do it with funding from the private sector. One of our goals it to help people get off of government assistance and us working together to reteach Americans the fundementals of living off the land. Please let me know of any ideas that you have or any help you would like to give to further our cause. For further information just reply to this post. Remember: When we work together, Teamwork don't seem work.

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You can watch PROFITS of DOOM on YouTube.

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I didn't think the water situation was so dire. Glad I spent money on the well.

I'm familiar with Kunstler from his website-- his articles suck but I enjoy the comments, especially from "trippticket".

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This was a great watch!

http://www.linktv.org/programs/rebeccas-wild-farm

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